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Whizkid Jul 29, 2014 11:25 pm

JP Accrual and Redemption Changes
 
Just scanning through for some redemption in Oct'14 and found that the miles needed are increased by 1000 miles for some sectors.

Eg: MAA - TRZ used to be 4000 miles and now quoted at 5000 miles.

I do not remember seeing a notice from Jet on this.

PS: for some sectors, its reduced as well.

ngblr Jul 29, 2014 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by Whizkid (Post 23279694)
Just scanning through for some redemption in Oct'14 and found that the miles needed are increased by 1000 miles for some sectors.

Eg: MAA - TRZ used to be 4000 miles and now quoted at 5000 miles.

I do not remember seeing a notice from Jet on this.

PS: for some sectors, its reduced as well.

It seems minimum miles required are 5000 now instead of 4000 miles for sector like BLR- MAA, DEL-JAI ETC.
Most of the sectors they seems to have reduced the miles requirement by 20% or so like BOM-DEL is now at 8500 instead of 10500, BLR-DEL is 12000 instead of 15000 but there seems to be no official word still.

A2A Jul 30, 2014 2:19 am

While the domestic is more an adjustment, the international chart has been officially gutted with 50-60% hike in the number of miles across the board, and it has been done with immediate effect so that you don't get to sneak in a booking.

Vishal Mehra Jul 30, 2014 2:36 am

Shameful move by Jet which will certainly hurt their brand more than it gives them any sort of gains.

DEL-LHR Return in Business Class used to be 1,08,000 miles, now 1,70,000 miles.

Disaster. Will seriously consider moving away from ICICI Jet Card now.

arakhanna Jul 30, 2014 3:31 am

Thats the end of the AMEX/other JET cards. Now to move to Citi PM.

vikasr Jul 30, 2014 3:47 am

The online partner award form still shows the old miles required for partners. Has that been changed too?

ngblr Jul 30, 2014 7:46 am

Just checked and now its back to old mileage chart on domestic as well international route for 9w redemption !!!

A2A Jul 30, 2014 8:41 am

Continuing from my earlier post, I talked to the head of JP, who explained to me that over the next 3 months a lot of changes are coming to the JP program, which will start with enhancements to accruals and on Sep 1 the redemption chart will see a hike, but YQ will go away.

BLRtoDFW Jul 30, 2014 10:15 am


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 23281383)
Continuing from my earlier post, I talked to the head of JP, who explained to me that over the next 3 months a lot of changes are coming to the JP program, which will start with enhancements to accruals and on Sep 1 the redemption chart will see a hike, but YQ will go away. More details here....http://livefromalounge.boardingarea....utting-is-out/

As always thanks AJ for the info !!

GuyFromBOM Jul 30, 2014 10:24 am


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 23281383)
Continuing from my earlier post, I talked to the head of JP, who explained to me that over the next 3 months a lot of changes are coming to the JP program, which will start with enhancements to accruals and on Sep 1 the redemption chart will see a hike, but YQ will go away. More details here....http://livefromalounge.boardingarea....utting-is-out/

With the above in mind, could we change the Thread Title to "JP Changes" or something similar, so as to keep track of all changes / modifications to come.

UA Fan Jul 30, 2014 10:46 am


Originally Posted by GuyFromBOM (Post 23282048)
With the above in mind, could we change the Thread Title to "JP Changes" or something similar, so as to keep track of all changes / modifications to come.

I agree.

Got an email today about accruals:

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/GL/JetP...nJPMiles1.aspx

AJLondon Jul 30, 2014 2:46 pm

Thread title updated. Also added a wiki. Please feel free to update/edit.

Thanks,
AJLondon
Mod IbA

ngblr Jul 30, 2014 10:57 pm

No mention of earlier cabin bonus for Gold & Plats ( 20 & 30%)..It seems that they are gone. Also B class booking in 9W & Z in S2 are now with 75% & 50% miles repectively against 100% & 75% miles earlier

GuyFromBOM Jul 30, 2014 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by ngblr (Post 23285694)
No mention of earlier cabin bonus for Gold & Plats ( 20 & 30%)..It seems that they are gone. Also B class booking in 9W & Z in S2 are now with 75% & 50% miles repectively against 100% & 75% miles earlier

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetP...rivileges.aspx

10% / 20% / 30% Bonus for Silver / Gold / Platinum members respectively.

Cabin bonus is 50% in J & 100% in F irrespective of JP Status.

ngblr Jul 30, 2014 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by GuyFromBOM (Post 23285733)
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetP...rivileges.aspx

10% / 20% / 30% Bonus for Silver / Gold / Platinum members respectively.

Cabin bonus is 50% in J & 100% in F irrespective of JP Status.

There is no mention of this for new rules effective 1st Aug

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetP...nJPMiles1.aspx

d3vski Jul 31, 2014 3:52 am

Why redeem in Jet Premiere when for less you can get Jet First.


Only in the land of lala, you get the perverse situation of LHR flights in First costing 162K whilst the less private Premiere costs 170k.

onlysuites Jul 31, 2014 4:03 am


Originally Posted by d3vski (Post 23286449)
Why redeem in Jet Premiere when for less you can get Jet First.


Only in the land of lala, you get the perverse situation of LHR flights in First costing 162K whilst the less private Premiere costs 170k.

Are they kidding? 162k return for Premiere???? That means you need to take 114 return DEL-BOM flights to get one ticket to UK. For someone that flies once in a month that means 10 years! But then miles expire 3 years or so after they are earnt so you got no hope.

Glad I shifted 2 years back.

onlysuites Jul 31, 2014 4:04 am


Originally Posted by Vishal Mehra (Post 23280109)
Disaster. Will seriously consider moving away from ICICI Jet Card now.

I got mine through a month back. Haven't even activated it.

d3vski Jul 31, 2014 5:53 am


Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 23286477)
Are they kidding? 162k return for Premiere???? That means you need to take 114 return DEL-BOM flights to get one ticket to UK. For someone that flies once in a month that means 10 years! But then miles expire 3 years or so after they are earnt so you got no hope.

Glad I shifted 2 years back.

No, No, No....your maths is wrong.

It's actually worse....you need 170K to redeem (RT) in Premiere!!!

GUWonder Jul 31, 2014 8:47 am

The airline really seems desperate to kill off its program's remaining value to frequent flyers.

This kind of move by 9W after AI became a Star Alliance member helps cement my dumping of loyalty toward 9W for other carriers in India, especially for AI.

UA Fan Jul 31, 2014 10:06 am

On the positive side, there will be no YQ - does this apply to partner rewards as well?

AllAboutFlying Jul 31, 2014 1:50 pm

with its ever decreasing customer service .. Jet can say bye bye to many frequent travellers and then this..

Keyser Aug 2, 2014 5:57 am


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 23281383)
on Sep 1 the redemption chart will see a hike, but YQ will go away.

it all depends on what the hike is like....if its a 10-20% increase with yq going away then i welcome this change....

A2A Aug 2, 2014 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 23297919)
it all depends on what the hike is like....if its a 10-20% increase with yq going away then i welcome this change....

itwill be 50-60%

galaticos Aug 2, 2014 9:56 pm

awaiting launch of tata-sia with more eagerness everyday... cant come soon enough..

GuyFromBOM Aug 2, 2014 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 23297919)
it all depends on what the hike is like....if its a 10-20% increase with yq going away then i welcome this change....


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 23299775)
itwill be 50-60%


In that case, the JP miles would be more or less = 50 paise each.

Keyser Aug 3, 2014 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 23299775)
itwill be 50-60%

sucks....i'm happy i've used up pretty much all my jp miles....

tirajat Aug 5, 2014 9:37 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 23303893)
sucks....i'm happy i've used up pretty much all my jp miles....

Likewise. I am down to 1.3L from 5L+ year and a half back. Have reedemed most of them on domestic routes, so got excellent value for money. Being a plat, I am able to book a revenue ticket and cancel it at the last moment (at no cost) since more often than not, award tickets are available a day before the flight.

A2A Aug 5, 2014 9:56 am

for domestic redemptions a lot of sectors will go down, for international they will go up. that is the summary of how redemption adjustments will happen. I was told email would go out on 1 august but not yet. maybe in a few more days then

GuyFromBOM Aug 5, 2014 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 23313598)
for domestic redemptions a lot of sectors will go down, for international they will go up. that is the summary of how redemption adjustments will happen. I was told email would go out on 1 august but not yet. maybe in a few more days then

Along with all the re-shuffle, wouldn't it be a wise decision to replace Jet Privilege with Etihad Guest..?

Anish Aug 6, 2014 4:22 am

So the new redemption chart is out..

http://www.jetairways.com/doc/Mileage-Chart.pdf

Domestic redemptions have actually decreased across many metro sectors.. BOM-DEL is now 17k/8.5k in Y/J compared to 21/10.5. Similarly BOM-BLR is now 13/6.5 and BOM-MAA is 15/7.5

International redemptions have shot up but the YQ is fully taken off.. Cant search for the new redemptions and YQ charges yet.

AllAboutFlying Aug 6, 2014 4:40 am


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 23318161)
So the new redemption chart is out..

http://www.jetairways.com/doc/Mileage-Chart.pdf

Domestic redemptions have actually decreased across many metro sectors.. BOM-DEL is now 17k/8.5k in Y/J compared to 21/10.5. Similarly BOM-BLR is now 13/6.5 and BOM-MAA is 15/7.5

International redemptions have shot up but the YQ is fully taken off.. Cant search for the new redemptions and YQ charges yet.

Basically now use the miles for domestic travels and the money for international !

Vishal Mehra Aug 6, 2014 4:41 am

Any idea about how partner redemptions will change?

AllAboutFlying Aug 6, 2014 4:42 am


Originally Posted by Vishal Mehra (Post 23318205)
Any idea about how partner redemptions will change?

I am guessing they should also be affected upwardly.

rush2hush Aug 6, 2014 5:03 am

Time to dump!
 
Time to off load this load of crap and move to BA. Even with the surcharges taken off, there is no justification for the level of increase in the miles required for international redemptions! They'll be having more empty planes now. I think they listened to the complaints that people aren't ever able to get redemption seats, well there will be plenty available now ;)

AJLondon Aug 6, 2014 5:56 am


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 23318161)
So the new redemption chart is out..

http://www.jetairways.com/doc/Mileage-Chart.pdf

Domestic redemptions have actually decreased across many metro sectors.. BOM-DEL is now 17k/8.5k in Y/J compared to 21/10.5. Similarly BOM-BLR is now 13/6.5 and BOM-MAA is 15/7.5

International redemptions have shot up but the YQ is fully taken off.. Cant search for the new redemptions and YQ charges yet.

Thanks Anish for the chart link.

Horrible news for those of us who redeem premium cabin international. :(

AllAboutFlying Aug 6, 2014 6:17 am


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 23318420)
Thanks Anish for the chart link.

Horrible news for those of us who redeem premium cabin international. :(

This is insane increase. Some sectors the increase is more than 50%.

AJLondon Aug 6, 2014 6:38 am


Originally Posted by AllAboutFlying (Post 23318499)
This is insane increase. Some sectors the increase is more than 50%.

Yup! DEL-HKG, DEL-SIN, DEL-LHR, DEL-YYZ etc all go up by at least 50% or more!! :td:

What just made my jaw drop is that a BOM-EWR in F now needs 450k miles for the round trip! :eek:

AllAboutFlying Aug 6, 2014 6:41 am


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 23318590)
Yup! DEL-HKG, DEL-SIN, DEL-LHR, DEL-YYZ etc all go up by at least 50% or more!! :td:

What just made my jaw drop is that a BOM-EWR in F now needs 450k miles for the round trip! :eek:

These enhancements are a result of continuous feedback from our valued members like you to improve the value of JPMiles and to simplify the redemption charges structure.

Haha.. Straight on our heads ! On one side airlines are offering discount on fares and people are travelling for cheaper that AC rail fares, on the other side they want their frequent travellers to go away to something else.

manish83 Aug 6, 2014 7:14 am

I am looking at the new redemption chart. Does it make sense to use JP Miles for Economy redemption in International sector?

For eg: currently for economy redemption BOM-BKK one needs 20K miles + ~7.5K INR one way, which becomes 22.5K miles + ~1.5K INR

Similarly for BOM-SIN sector, currently one needs 20K miles + 10K INR one way, which changes to 30K miles + ~2K.

May be it makes sense to use JPMiles for last minute international economy redemption rather than business/first.


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