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Originally Posted by jasepl
(Post 18182595)
No business will want to hire anyone who doesn't have a documented clean break from the previous employer. Whilst this may be more or a requirement in India, it is commonplace everywhere.
Learn something new every day ;)
Originally Posted by jasepl
(Post 18182595)
they will wail it was beyond their control.
They will blame the pilots striking work, because they weren't paid, because the accounts were frozen, because… All the while very conveniently ignoring the fact that the freeze was precipitated because Kingfisher cheated both the exchequer and the employees (twice!) by chronically failing to pay their dues. |
Official statement
As usual blaming the frozen Accounts
Official IT Statement 12th March 2012 - Limited operations Statement from KFA - 12th March 2012 The flight loads have reduced because of our limited distribution ability caused by IATA suspension. We are therefore combining some of our flights. Also, some of the flights are being cancelled as a result of employee agitation on account of delayed salaries. This situation has arisen as a consequence of our bank accounts having been frozen by the tax authorities. We are making all possible efforts to remedy this temporary situation. We will operate approximately 80% of our planned schedule. We expect to return to our full schedule shortly. Those guests whose flights are affected are being notified. They are either being accommodated on other airlines or offered a full refund. Prakash Mirpuri Vice President - Corporate Communications Kingfisher Airlines |
Originally Posted by jasepl
(Post 18182595)
No business will want to hire anyone who doesn't have a documented clean break from the previous employer. Whilst this may be more or a requirement in India, it is commonplace everywhere. Haven't seen that in Australia yet (and when I finish at one employer and join another, the onus lies on me to completed the relevant processes and obligations), save for having to show a proof of citizenship because some of my clients tend to be Commonwealth Government Departments. Now lets get back to talking about Kingfisher. |
Originally Posted by SQ421
(Post 18182697)
Haven't seen that in Australia yet (and when I finish at one employer and join another, the onus lies on me to completed the relevant processes and obligations), save for having to show a proof of citizenship because some of my clients tend to be Commonwealth Government Departments.
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Originally Posted by SQ421
(Post 18182697)
A bit OT but only in India have I heard of new employers wanting to see evidence of your current salary, your age/birth certificate/passport/marital status (the latter of which i found was common on CV's!!) and also a "termination letter" before joining the new employer.
Some of the information they ask for here is rather baffling. At times, applicants tend to include things that the employer doesn't require, just because that's the most common way.
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
(Post 18182749)
That is precisely my experience in the USA as well... Didn't realize that they have arcane requirements like that in India.
By the way, many of the information requirements aren't archaic (arcane means something else entirely; find a dictionary yet?); the method of collecting that information is. Businesses in other countries rely more on third-party background checks to gather the same details (which, really, are more reliable) rather than ask the person for the information directly. It's comparable to having the university send your transcripts directly vs handing in a copy of your marksheet yourself. I've got emails and even phone calls from America asking to verify all kinds of things about people I supervised or was listed as a reference for, even several years after moving out of the country. Some Indian businesses have started using background checks too, but that is yet a rarity. Of course, no one does a background check before hiring someone to stack shelves or scoop ice cream. |
Originally Posted by jasepl
(Post 18182855)
You forgot photographs!
Some of the information they ask for here is rather baffling. At times, applicants tend to include things that the employer doesn't require, just because that's the most common way. Don't get me started! One of my gigs involved contracting via HP Enterprise Services, and HPES at that point was managing its contractors in Australasia via MphasiS in India. I left my marital status blank on that form and had to go a few rounds with the drone at their HR Processing Centre who couldn't figure out why I'd not answer the question and why I couldn't just select whichever option best described my marital status, while I tried to get it across to him that I simply wasn't required to answer that question and thus I wasn't going to. </OT> |
I actually think that there are such requirements like that in the US and Australia too (for full-time employment jobs, not random contracts), but they are just hidden among the paperwork. When one switches jobs, one is required to complete and sign all kinds of paperwork. I bet somewhere in there is a legal clause that says the new employee has severed legal ties with all other corporation. Another reason I think such requirements exist in the western world is because we often hear of firms suing other firms for illegally poaching and employing their employees.
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Originally Posted by hyderago
(Post 18182967)
I actually think that there are such requirements like that in the US and Australia too (for full-time employment jobs, not random contracts), but they are just hidden among the paperwork. When one switches jobs, one is required to complete and sign all kinds of paperwork. I bet somewhere in there is a legal clause that says the new employee has severed legal ties with all other corporation. Another reason I think such requirements exist in the western world is because we often hear of firms suing other firms for illegally poaching and employing their employees.
The clause exists, but I've never had to show proof saying I was only working for that one employer at that point in time. I suppose once I've singed that contract, any act to the contrary would be a violation of my employment conditions and thus result in an immediate termination (form both jobs, were I two-timing) and so the risk simply isn't worth taking. Unless you happen to be this guy I know who was hired in India by a headhunter/recruiter recruiting for Investment Banking backoffice operations and this guy's job was to land a job at call centres, find out which staff was "poachworthy" and then poach them for his firm to place with their clients. |
Originally Posted by SQ421
(Post 18182963)
I left my marital status blank on that form and had to go a few rounds with the drone at their HR Processing Centre who couldn't figure out why I'd not answer the question and why I couldn't just select whichever option best described my marital status, while I tried to get it across to him that I simply wasn't required to answer that question and thus I wasn't going to.
Oh, and another one is religion. Thankfully that is less and less prevalent now. I've always left it blank or written "n/a", because it's no one's business and I don't have one in any case. God knows what they do to the form after it's handed in, but I have once seen the BMC official cross out 'n/a" and write "Christian". I didn't know I was supposed to be Christian. But then I suppose any weird-looking name automatically gets classified as that.
Originally Posted by hyderago
(Post 18182967)
I actually think that there are such requirements like that in the US and Australia too (for full-time employment jobs, not random contracts), but they are just hidden among the paperwork. When one switches jobs, one is required to complete and sign all kinds of paperwork. I bet somewhere in there is a legal clause that says the new employee has severed legal ties with all other corporation. Another reason I think such requirements exist in the western world is because we often hear of firms suing other firms for illegally poaching and employing their employees.
Anyway, to bring Kingfisher back in, if the employees merely don't turn up to work, they won't get paid. If they want another job, they must show up, resign, serve out the notice, get a written all-clear and then they will likely be able to start working elsewhere. They may or may not get paid during that time. Or never. |
Originally Posted by blackmamba
(Post 18182203)
The woeful death of a 5-star airline. It goes to show that even good service doesn't cut it nowadays.
This is a sad goodbye to a what-could-have-been. |
Originally Posted by jasepl
(Post 18182999)
Hahah! If you write "Single", depending on your age, be prepared to be asked "Why?".
Thankfully, not my parents. Yet. :D |
Originally Posted by Keyser
(Post 18183014)
the whole 5 star bit was highly overrated....
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Skytrash
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Originally Posted by jasepl
(Post 18172361)
In a couple of weeks, internationally, IT are ending all operations at Bangkok, Dhaka, Kathmandu and London. In addition, their website shows no flights to Hong Kong or Singapore either.
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
(Post 18172723)
Shutting London is a pretty big move.. It's their flagship route, so I would have expected that to be the last route they cut. Maybe they're expecting to lose their A330s to repo/lease expiration soon :confused:
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Originally Posted by SQ421
(Post 18183022)
As if having my relatives ask that was not enough.
Thankfully, not my parents. Yet. :D
Originally Posted by hyderago
(Post 18183059)
Skytrash
Originally Posted by Keyser
(Post 18183066)
if this is indeed the case then it would make sense for them to inform all passengers who already have flights booked after their route shut down dates....my del-lhr flight in end april still shows confirmed on the 'manage booking' section of their website....
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