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1 cent per point for me.
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I use 1.5c/point - my baseline being the Grand Hyatt in Manhattan. I'd be willing to pay $225 including tax for a refundable weekend night there, although their AAA rate is usually a little higher than that.
(For comparison, I value SPG at 2.3c and Hilton at 0.6, which is close to the 3.9:1 ratio which AMEX Membership Rewards has for them.) |
Originally Posted by ElmhurstNick
(Post 12544367)
I use 1.5c/point - my baseline being the Grand Hyatt in Manhattan. I'd be willing to pay $225 including tax for a refundable weekend night there, although their AAA rate is usually a little higher than that.
(For comparison, I value SPG at 2.3c and Hilton at 0.6, which is close to the 3.9:1 ratio which AMEX Membership Rewards has for them.) GP = 1.5 cents SPG = 2.0 cents HH = 0.6 cents (although probably only 0.5 cents without the Diamond Force) IC/PC = 0.7 cents |
I would go with the following values...
SPG: 2 GP: 1.5 HH: .5 PC: .6 My baseline is how many points will it take me to get a room I would spend less than $100 on, with GP and SPG, there are a number of $75-$80 properties I would use 4k SPG or 5k GP. PC has a few $60-$90 range properties and HH varies too widely to assign a solid value for. |
Can GP pts be transfered between the member's accounts if the two parties have the same physical address? I believe SPG did, but not sure GP
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Originally Posted by iwpingmu
(Post 12685875)
Can GP pts be transfered between the member's accounts if the two parties have the same physical address? I believe SPG did, but not sure GP
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Originally Posted by Rubal
(Post 12685965)
Yes it is possible to transfer between any GP account.
Point Combining Combine your Gold Passport points with any Gold Passport member to redeem an award. Submit your completed Award Request Form to: Hyatt Gold Passport Customer Service Post Office Box 27089 Omaha, NE 68127-0089, USA Or fax it to 1-402-593-9449 Forms are also available by calling 1-800-51 HYATT. * Download Award Request Form (PDF, Adobe Acrobat required) |
Originally Posted by iwpingmu
(Post 12685875)
Can GP pts be transfered between the member's accounts ... ?
Combine your Gold Passport points with any Gold Passport member to redeem an award: GP Point Combining Request Form |
Originally Posted by Smart Shopper
(Post 12686595)
Combining Points
Combine your Gold Passport points with any Gold Passport member to redeem an award: GP Point Combining Request Form |
I thought I'd bring this topic back to life as I am trying to decide whether it's worth it to get the new Hyatt credit card. I currently use a card that pays me back 1 cent per dollar spent in cash. I'm trying to judge the value of the points I'd get with the Hyatt card vs. the cash I get now, and whether it offsets the $75 annual fee.
You can redeem GP points for miles at 2.5 points per mile. I typically value miles at less than 1 cent, so that metric would give me a point value of probably about 2 cents. Any opinions? |
Originally Posted by huskergreg
(Post 14868774)
I thought I'd bring this topic back to life as I am trying to decide whether it's worth it to get the new Hyatt credit card. I currently use a card that pays me back 1 cent per dollar spent in cash. I'm trying to judge the value of the points I'd get with the Hyatt card vs. the cash I get now, and whether it offsets the $75 annual fee.
By that metric it takes $15,000 of spend for the excess 0.5% return of the Hyatt card above a 1% cash-back card on non-Hyatt expenses to obtain enough points to cancel the $75 fee and end up with zero net return. So unless there's a significant retention bonus, you'd certainly be better off cancelling the card after the first year and instead getting $150 cash back on the same spend from the generic 1% cash-back card. For year one, though, the two nights for the $75 fee is a no-brainer, especially if you're a Platinum or Diamond GP member. |
Originally Posted by huskergreg
(Post 14868774)
I thought I'd bring this topic back to life as I am trying to decide whether it's worth it to get the new Hyatt credit card. I currently use a card that pays me back 1 cent per dollar spent in cash. I'm trying to judge the value of the points I'd get with the Hyatt card vs. the cash I get now, and whether it offsets the $75 annual fee.
You can redeem GP points for miles at 2.5 points per mile. I typically value miles at less than 1 cent, so that metric would give me a point value of probably about 2 cents. Any opinions? I value Hyatt at 1.1 cents. You could get more but I subtract because I am generally able to get rooms for much less using priceline or some other promotion. Even at 1.1 cents I have never spent 1 point because I have always founds a better deal somewhere. If you value airline miles at less than 1 cent its doubtful you are gong to find the Hyatt card to be worth it. Also the SPG card is clearly the more lucrative card. Only advantage Hyatt really has is the current sign up bonus. |
Originally Posted by hindukid
(Post 14873630)
Even at 1.1 cents I have never spent 1 point because I have always founds a better deal somewhere.
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Points or dollars at 2.3 to 2.8 cents per point?
In your opinion, should I use points or miles for a stay where the point to cents ratio range for the Hyatts in the area range from a low of 2.1 cents per point (prior to the 10% tax which takes it to 2.3 cents per point) to 2.65 (pretax) cents/pt. I am also factoring into my decision that I will not accrue new points if I don't pay with $$.
I hoard my Hyatt points. I used them once years ago in Hawaii and that is it. I have a over three hundred thousand points that are losing value each year. Even though I know they are devaluing, I am saving them to go scuba diving and travel when I retire. I value Hilton points at $.005/pt or half a cent/pt. I value UA miles at over 3 cents as I use them when I can find availability for international travel in C or F. I used to value them at 9 cents. Recently I downgraded them to about 5 cents per mile. |
Originally Posted by SMF Rider
(Post 15275956)
In your opinion, should I use points or miles for a stay where the point to cents ratio range for the Hyatts in the area range from a low of 2.1 cents per point (prior to the 10% tax which takes it to 2.3 cents per point) to 2.65 (pretax) cents/pt. I am also factoring into my decision that I will not accrue new points if I don't pay with $$.
I hoard my Hyatt points. I used them once years ago in Hawaii and that is it. I have a over three hundred thousand points that are losing value each year. Even though I know they are devaluing, I am saving them to go scuba diving and travel when I retire. I value Hilton points at $.005/pt or half a cent/pt. I value UA miles at over 3 cents as I use them when I can find availability for international travel in C or F. I used to value them at 9 cents. Recently I downgraded them to about 5 cents per mile. To answer your question, based on the cpp ratio I would most likely use points for this stay. However, this depends on the overall rate - I'm more inclined to use points if the nightly rate is above $200. If we are talking about a $100/night vs. 5k points I may pay rather than spend points. Ultimately it's up to you to decide how much money you want to spend and to use points if the price is more than you are comfortable with. |
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