Right, but higher point requirements should mean less demand and hence more availability for the limited number of standard rooms.

It's not great news, but frankly, I do not think this change will impact my actual stays at Hyatt. It is likely to impact my credit card usage.

I travel a lot with my family (I had 81 butt in bed nights with Hyatt last year, nearly all personal) and there is no better program for traveling with a family than Hyatt:

• Confirmed suite upgrades - especially useful in Europe where base rooms often do not accommodate 3 people. 30 of my 81 nights last year were confirmed into suites and I consider this benefit incredibly valuable.
• Breakfast - for a family, superior to Marriott and Hilton for sure
• Late-checkout - extremely useful for my personal travel and I can pretty much rely on it with Hyatt

Then there's the credit card half. I put all my personal spending on a Hyatt CC and even started paying my estimated taxes on it last year (I value Hyatt points at 2 cents a piece, so was coming out slightly ahead when you consider it also helped me earn more SUAs). Now I will really think critically about whether this behavior continues to make sense, and I doubt it will.

But as to the actual stays, where else would I go? Marriott or Hilton are not going to meet my needs any better (in my opinion). By the way, I'm already Lifetime Titanium and don't get anywhere near the same treatment.

Still missing an important detail - when are theses points rates set (i.e. fixed in spring for the next year like they currently are) or are they actually fully dynamic (i.e. hotel can change their points rate arbitrarily though the year).

Sure, I expect e.g. Ventana and PH Kyoto and similar others to be permanently locked at 75K, but this matters more for middle of the road properties.

I'm kind of in the similar boat however the problem is the points needed for most populate resorts will be through the roof as everything will be of course "peak". since we cannot combine a FNA with an SUA, you'd have to choose which to use in a sense, meaning is getting a confirmed SUA better with burning more points or just using your FNA and hoping for an upgrade which I've gotten exactly once.

since the other brands have a bigger footprint it doesn't seem like staying with Hyatt makes sense anymore to me as it's going to effectively cost the same.

Not sure where you are going, but for me the biggest problem with Hyatt (compared to Hilton/Marriott) has always been the number of properties to choose from. A better program isn�t helpful if I can�t stay where I want to be.

I will continue on my path as a free agent (yes, I am Glob this year, but only thanks to good timing with the AA Fast Track offer last year).

Nailed it. I’m making a run at Marriott status this year as a backup since Hyatt is just too limited in location. Once things settle I’m going to have to reevaluate if it makes sense to keep racking up Hyatt points and re qualifying for globalist. Time to start using my Hyatt points a little quicker.

I�m responding to the poster saying hotels may allocate more rooms to point redemptions.

Sure, Hilton has greater award availability as they have rooms at more than $1million points/night.

They are being somewhat vague about it in the FAQ:

10. How will a night’s redemption level be determined?
The night’s redemption level will be based on anticipated demand.

12. How often will redemption levels be updated?
Redemption levels will be reviewed periodically and updated if needed.

What is periodically? Once a year? Month? Day?

I assume that it is WoH that is adjusting them somehow based on cash rate info if the compensation process remains the same for the properties. WoH will just want more points for days when there is high demand since they have to pay the property more for the “free” room.

As someone who has their default card in Apple Pay as the Hyatt card, I�m definitely questioning. My main motivation for that is to accumulate spend to more easily hit EQN milestones for Globlaist at 60 and AA Platinum (OneWorld Emerald) at 100. The points earning rates are also fair, but that assumes Hyatt maintains a 2 CPP valuation. If that valuation actually reduces - and we can�t say for sure of that now, then the card becomes meaningfully less attractive for non-Hyatt spend. At this point, I�m really hoping for a premium Hyatt card that makes sense and renews the value proposition. Otherwise, I�ll need to dive in to UR more deeply (though, again, the only transfer partner I�ve ever used is Hyatt) or explore spending more on my United CC to get PQP (not sure that�s really worth it, but it is what it is).

To me, Hyatt is still more valuable in the US due to the more consistent breakfast offering compared to Marriott. However, I am nearly out of new Hyatts to try globally (that I want to visit) - so perhaps, I was going to be winding down some anyway. If Hyatt fixes their footprint, though, that would be a different story. Oh, well, plenty more Marriotts to try!

I doubt whether Hyatt will release the amount they pay hotels for point rates. And it doesn�t matter for very high occupancy days where the hotel reimbursement is related to the average nightly rate or something similar.

Darnit. I'm sitting on 800,000 points because I haven't been able to find a free night room available in last 6 months at the properties i go to.

I was going to use these points to requalify for Globalist next yr (at 45 nights this yr so far).

This obviously is terrible news for people with points.

But I've cared more about suites and treatment on property than points so I'll stick with Hyatt. But it hurts losing so much value so fast.

They should end charade and just go dynamic. It'd be more honest that way

This is a really bad move by Hyatt.

Sure, it helps with signing up for credit cards but hyatt points are worse than skypesos.

Dynamic like Marriott would means the price in points could change from day to day or hour to hour. You can�t plan with that kind of dynamic pricing.

Even if the new Hyatt pricing will be tied to anticipated demand and cash pricing, at least you know that if you don�t book the award today, at least the price for the dates you want won�t change when you come back.

Delta seems to be doing just fine.

Yes this is a huge devaluation of points and bad for people who travel on points but is it really bad for Hyatt? Probably not.

It certainly hurts those without access to US credit card point transfers/earning (Chase Ultimate Rewards cards and Hyatt credit cards).

Obviously I am not a fan but my prior utilization of the program did not really depend on point redemptions so much as Free Night redemption, so I should be little affected by any short term changes.

Of course, the huge kitty of points I had built up from credit card spend will be devalued, but probably by not as much as others as I do not generally like beach resorts, nor very high end chi chi type hotels, so their increases should not affect me as much as more mundane properties, but still, it is a future loss for me.

What this unveiling I think does foreshadow, however, is a re-think about the future Hyatt Premium personal card.

I thought that Hyatt might introduce a Hyatt Category 5 Free night and/or topping off existing certificates with points like IHG or Marriott, but I now think the latter is now off the table as it might prove a computational nightmare to do with all these sub-categories within and among all the tiers.

So too, do I at least think that a Category 5 Free night has become less forthcoming, not because such a certificate now has become more valuable (it has), but because adding one as such just would add a bit more complexity to system redemptions when Hyatt has already done this with its new award chart. It may not wish to add yet another variable/facet to category wide redemptions.

Just what perks such a card will provide is anybody’s guess right now other than what I would suppose would be a faster way to earn Milestone statuses up through and above Globalist.