Originally Posted by josephstern
(Post 31806667)
Not sure which blog I saw it one, but one suggested that off-peak/standard/peak dates were to be set by geographical region and not by individual property. So if Chicagoland is off-peak, it'll be off-peak at every property.
Unfortunately, I can't find the reference for this info at the moment. |
Originally Posted by HoustonConsultant
(Post 31806273)
Until I was 45, I was kid-less, and we traveled when other people's kids were in school. For five years with kids, we traveled when other people's kids were in school.
Now, we travel when everyone else travels, and that is going to be peak Hyatt times for warm-weather beach vacations regardless of the time of year. |
Originally Posted by toomanybooks
(Post 31807471)
Well, it would depend on the size/shape of the region. Presumably that has not been released.
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the upside is for those hotels that maintain high rates even during low occupancy, like PH NYC and Paris.
other hotels, like Hyatt Carmel, have base rates from $100 to $1000 based upon season & day of week. no benefit here with offpeak at 25K as cash is more prudent. |
Originally Posted by notquiteaff
(Post 31808044)
they are probably still looking for a gerrymandering expert to draw the maps ;)
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Originally Posted by synzero
(Post 31807246)
The word is it will not be hands off at all. Hyatt corporate will decide peak vs off-peak for entire regions, hotels won’t get to set this themselves.
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Originally Posted by josephstern
(Post 31806751)
A lot of us have been through changes like this before and they basically never work out well for the consumer overall, and usually the potential bright spots dim pretty quickly after execution.
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Originally Posted by azepine00
(Post 31806289)
Probably a deval to some extent but i'll give hyatt benefit of the doubt - they've been maintaining program integrity fairly well both from point value and loyalty recognition (especially relative to marriott hilton etc)...
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Originally Posted by jpdx
(Post 31806567)
Agree with this sentiment. I'm guessing mild devaluation for people who are limited to travel during peak times only, but likely a boon to those of us who are flexible. It'll be great to have a calendar function!
If you look at Marriott as an example, most of the seasons when you want to be somewhere are PEAK. If you want to be in Florida during Huricane season - fine, that won't be PEAK. If you want to be in Seattle in January when it rains every day, that also won't be PEAK. But Florida in the winter, or Seattle in July/August will be PEAK. As I said, look at the rates. A 20K hotel that charges $150 off season, will now be 17K. But the 20K hotel that charges $300-$400 in PEAK season, will be PEAK. |
Originally Posted by smilee
(Post 31811787)
I think you should be worried.
If you look at Marriott as an example, most of the seasons when you want to be somewhere are PEAK. If you want to be in Florida during Huricane season - fine, that won't be PEAK. If you want to be in Seattle in January when it rains every day, that also won't be PEAK. But Florida in the winter, or Seattle in July/August will be PEAK. As I said, look at the rates. A 20K hotel that charges $150 off season, will now be 17K. But the 20K hotel that charges $300-$400 in PEAK season, will be PEAK. |
Originally Posted by smilee
(Post 31811787)
I think you should be worried.
If you look at Marriott as an example, .. |
Originally Posted by azepine00
(Post 31812503)
I do worry (and do anticipate some losses) however my take is that hyatt is not marriott, united, hertz, hilton etc and their approach has been historically customer friendly. There arent too many brands i trust - hyatt is one of them... ymmv of course
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Originally Posted by Visconti
(Post 31812522)
Jokes aside, I do take some comfort that those who have been with Hyatt for 15+ plus years have some confidence in the integrity of the currency, at least relative to others. While I've only been with Hyatt rewards only 4 or 5 years, during that time I've seen a little devaluation, but certainly nothing like I've experienced with SPG --> Marriott and whatever Hilton is up to.
My first year with Hyatt (90 total nights) and it has been as good as I have long heard about. |
Originally Posted by UA-NYC
(Post 31812535)
a lot of widespread distrust at the moment over there.
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Marriott's distrusting reputation has me worried. I do not have a solid understanding in today's business tactics such as United, American, Hilton and Marriott, but in this move with Hyatt following Marriott's lead, I am worried.
As a nearly 20 year Diamond/Globalist, I have been through many changes some good, but more bad- such as no more cash and fixed points, diamond amenity, and the need for 60 nights. Recently OMAAT talked about increased screening for Regency Club access, and my experience with Hyatt wanting to charge me for RC access for my kids. Don't forget that Hyatt's introduction of WOH and was with only a few months notice a couple of years ago. Now an increase in award prices probably about 30% for when I want to use them. Hyatt has been very customer friendly, I just hope the new way of doing business and rewarding customers is the old Hyatt way. |
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