Hyatt introduces Off-Peak, Standard and Peak awards (26 Oct 2021)
Introducing Off-peak and Peak Point Redemption
Starting in March 2020, World of Hyatt will introduce Off-peak and Peak point redemption for free night awards. Under this new structure there will be three point redemption values, which will allow members more flexibility when it comes to getting the most out of their points for free nights at more than 1,000 hotels worldwide.
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This is horrible and a devaluation undercover. I wouldn't be surprised to see andaz Maui bump up to peak all the time meaning essentially a new category.
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Can we assume that this won't impact free night certs, so that cat 1-7 would be good for a peak night at a cat 7 property, etc.?
BTW, what properties are cat 8 now? Also will the higher category points nights be -1500 for off peak and +1500 for peak or will these differences depend on the category and vary more in absolute terms for points redemptions at higher category hotels? Or will it be -30% and +30% for all categories? Or some different formula? |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 31804192)
Can we assume that this won't impact free night certs, so that cat 1-7 would be good for a peak night at a cat 7 property, etc.?
BTW, what properties are cat 8 now? Also will the higher category points nights be -1500 for off peak and +1500 for peak or will these differences depend on the category and vary more in absolute terms for points redemptions at higher category hotels? Or will it be -30% and +30% for all categories? Or some different formula? https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...df5c79a3d4.jpg |
Something not really highlighted in these devaluations is Hyatt has seemed to have fully built out the reward redemption chart for Category 8. Before Category 8 was an incomplete chart that showed standard redemption, and nothing else was given as far as club access/standard/premium suite redemption.
I think the bigger devaluation is that some Hyatt-branded properties (not from SLH or Two Roads acquisitions) are going to creep up to the Category 8, which in turn some properties will slowly creep up another category. i.e. 5 to 6, 6 to 7, 7 to 8. |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 31804192)
Can we assume that this won't impact free night certs, so that cat 1-7 would be good for a peak night at a cat 7 property, etc.?
BTW, what properties are cat 8 now? Also will the higher category points nights be -1500 for off peak and +1500 for peak or will these differences depend on the category and vary more in absolute terms for points redemptions at higher category hotels? Or will it be -30% and +30% for all categories? Or some different formula? |
Originally Posted by ZBigFam
(Post 31804169)
This is horrible and a devaluation undercover.
My, how things have changed since the days of Faster Free Nights! |
+1 to the question of what happens to free night certs. These are tough to redeem for decent value as-is. If Hyatt goes the Marriott route and makes peak cat-4 properties ineligible for cat-4 cert redemptions, that will be an absolutely brutal devaluation.
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Originally Posted by ZBigFam
(Post 31804169)
I wouldn't be surprised to see andaz Maui bump up to peak all the time meaning essentially a new category.
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This will probably only have a minor impact on me. At least half of my travel is either off peak or standard. If it's peak, I don't want to go :)
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Obviously not great but not screwing us over with monthly changes a la Marriott
Originally Posted by LowValueCustomer
(Post 31804322)
+1 to the question of what happens to free night certs. These are tough to redeem for decent value as-is. If Hyatt goes the Marriott route and makes peak cat-4 properties ineligible for cat-4 cert redemptions, that will be an absolutely brutal devaluation.
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
(Post 31804382)
Obviously not great but not screwing us over with monthly changes a la Marriott
see OMAAT. Hyatt confirmed they will be good for Peak dates still. Unlike Marriott screwing folks with the 35k cap.
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I am gonna go out on a limb and guess we will see WAY more peak dates vs off peak dates for any half way desirable property.
This amounts to roughly a 17% increase in redemption rates. Suppose some can once again say that, comparatively, Hyatt is letting us off ‘easy’ vs competitors but it (Hyatt’s slowly but surely approach) is a pattern for last 2-3 years so we have lost lots of accumulated value. Though the way hotels and airlines now treat their loyal members, I do appreciate Hyatt not completely going Bonvoy on us, but that’s not a high bar to achieve since most other programs have chosen to completely alienate their customers. |
This will be interesting to watch. A 3500 redemption when they are giving back 1000 per stay, and/or for Globalists who get 10K extra at 70, 80, 90, 100 will make for a pretty cheap stay.
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Originally Posted by CopperSteve
(Post 31804319)
Agreed. Not liking this change. :(
My, how things have changed since the days of Faster Free Nights! |
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