Jan 8, 2014, 7:43 am
Last edit by: hailstorm
Effective 7 Jan 2014, Hyatt Gold Passport offers bookings for a combination of points and cash for standard rooms. The points required are half of the points required for an all-points reservation. The following is a list of the points required plus co-pay for the 8 categories.
Cat 1 2,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 2 4,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 3 6,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 4 7,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 5 10,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 6 12,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 7 15,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 8 20,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
1) As of November 2015, these rates can be booked online. In some cases, using a corporate code may cause them not to be shown.
2) Availability is determined by the property; some properties almost always have availability, while other properties apparently never have.
3) Points are normally deducted at time of booking; cash portion is paid to the hotel at checkout.
4) If you cancel the reservation online, the points are usually but not always automatically re-credited; may be necessary to call/contact.
5) Only available for standard rooms, not for higher room categories, Club floor rooms, etc.
6) All elite tier benefits apply, and Diamond suite upgrades may be applied if available.
7) Stay and night credits are applicable for elite qualification and also for promotions; cash portion earns points as qualified hotel spend.
8) For non-US properties, the US dollar co-pay may be converted to the foreign currency at the time the reservation is made. Sometimes the conversion rate is set for the whole year, so may be more or less than the current exchange rate.
9) The cash co-pay is inclusive of taxes and "service" charges for properties that quote their rates as inclusive of T&S. If rates do not normally include T&S, the cash portion is subject to the T&S charges.
Cat 1 2,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 2 4,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 3 6,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 4 7,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 5 10,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 6 12,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 7 15,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 8 20,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
1) As of November 2015, these rates can be booked online. In some cases, using a corporate code may cause them not to be shown.
2) Availability is determined by the property; some properties almost always have availability, while other properties apparently never have.
3) Points are normally deducted at time of booking; cash portion is paid to the hotel at checkout.
4) If you cancel the reservation online, the points are usually but not always automatically re-credited; may be necessary to call/contact.
5) Only available for standard rooms, not for higher room categories, Club floor rooms, etc.
6) All elite tier benefits apply, and Diamond suite upgrades may be applied if available.
7) Stay and night credits are applicable for elite qualification and also for promotions; cash portion earns points as qualified hotel spend.
8) For non-US properties, the US dollar co-pay may be converted to the foreign currency at the time the reservation is made. Sometimes the conversion rate is set for the whole year, so may be more or less than the current exchange rate.
9) The cash co-pay is inclusive of taxes and "service" charges for properties that quote their rates as inclusive of T&S. If rates do not normally include T&S, the cash portion is subject to the T&S charges.
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Jul 9, 2015, 11:09 am
#436
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For full points redemptions, the payment to the hotel depends on occupancy. There is a sliding scale so that the higher the occupancy, the higher the rebate. Very difficult in small hotels (like Park Hyatt Maldives) when to achieve the highest rebate they have to sell all but 1 or 2 rooms.
Jul 10, 2015, 3:55 pm
#438
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Jul 10, 2015, 8:41 pm
#439
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Jul 10, 2015, 9:43 pm
#440
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Jul 10, 2015, 10:10 pm
#441
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If all you mean is the difference in stay/night credits, then that's easy. No matter how you combine paid, P&C, and all-points nights during a consecutive stay, you will get one stay credit as long as you have at least one paid or P&C night at any time (start, middle, end, or whenever) during the stay. You will receive one night credit for each paid and P&C night. You will not get any night credits for all-points nights, and no stay credit if the enter stay is all-points.
Value-wise, often (2 P&C nights are a bette value than 1 paid + 1 all-points nights, but not always, which is what I meant by it depending on the property and dates.
Jul 26, 2015, 3:44 pm
#442
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I'm trying to book points and cash in tokyo, it doesnt matter if andaz, grand hyatt or regency, they all show the standard points room but i've called hyatt passport and it doesn't have availability to book P+C, how that works? Since there's the option to book with points, it should be booked with points and cash, or not?
Jul 26, 2015, 4:03 pm
#443
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I'm trying to book points and cash in tokyo, it doesnt matter if andaz, grand hyatt or regency, they all show the standard points room but i've called hyatt passport and it doesn't have availability to book P+C, how that works? Since there's the option to book with points, it should be booked with points and cash, or not?
Jul 27, 2015, 12:50 am
#444
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I'm trying to book points and cash in tokyo, it doesnt matter if andaz, grand hyatt or regency, they all show the standard points room but i've called hyatt passport and it doesn't have availability to book P+C, how that works? Since there's the option to book with points, it should be booked with points and cash, or not?
Jul 27, 2015, 8:33 am
#445
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Although I've heard of people being able to do this, it is entirely at the discretion of the hotel and certainly not part of the T&C. A property that is a stickler for the rules (PH Tokyo comes to mind, in contrast with HR Kyoto), would probably not allow it, so it is a gamble if the stay credit is important.
Aug 13, 2015, 6:49 am
#446
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Sorry if has been asked before. I currently have 17000 pts. I would like to book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts. If i book a Points and Cash award category 5 room for 10000 pts + USD125 (normally 20000 pts), and then cancel the booking, would I get back 20000 pts so I can then book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts? I don't think i can book a club room using pts and cash...
Aug 13, 2015, 7:06 am
#447
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Sorry if has been asked before. I currently have 17000 pts. I would like to book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts. If i book a Points and Cash award category 5 room for 10000 pts + USD125 (normally 20000 pts), and then cancel the booking, would I get back 20000 pts so I can then book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts? I don't think i can book a club room using pts and cash...
Book P&C for 10,000 pts + $125 and the pts will usually be immediately deducted, but the cash portion is paid at checkout, just like a paid stay. Cancel and you get your 10,000 pts back.
You are correct that you cannot book a club room on P&C.
If you're that keen to get a club room on pts, you could purchase the pts. Right now there is 30% bonus sale until the end of Aug. Purchase 8,000 pts and get 2,400 pts bonus for a cost of US$192.
Aug 13, 2015, 9:06 am
#448
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Sorry if has been asked before. I currently have 17000 pts. I would like to book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts. If i book a Points and Cash award category 5 room for 10000 pts + USD125 (normally 20000 pts), and then cancel the booking, would I get back 20000 pts so I can then book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts? I don't think i can book a club room using pts and cash...
Most certainly would not work. Otherwise what is to stop people from generating unlimited points by doing what you are proposing.
Aug 13, 2015, 4:20 pm
#450
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