Goodbye Hilton Honors Diamond VIP Status
#211
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: HHD
Posts: 215
Now I will stay less (more cherry picking) and have better status.
Probably the economics are against loyal customers.
#212
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Gold MM, UA Club Lifer, MC Lifetime Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 325
Mine too, but it changed from Diamond to Silver last night. Treatment is based on the status when you check in. I would have made Gold on basepoints, but failed because they raised the bar. What does not feel right is giving Gold away for free to certain credit card holders, but make it more difficult for paying customers to qualify. I had 66.000 base points and now I applied for a credit card that cost me 48€ and gives me Gold status.
Now I will stay less (more cherry picking) and have better status.
Probably the economics are against loyal customers.
Now I will stay less (more cherry picking) and have better status.
Probably the economics are against loyal customers.
#213
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL
Programs: DL PM, HH Diamond, Fairmont Prem, SPG Gold, Priority Club Plat/IC Amb, AmEx Plat
Posts: 10,839
Just saw my status change from Diamond to Gold... Due to other promotions such as IHG's Big Win, I've shifted some of my stays.
#214
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
I booked a stay for a property in September earlier this year when I was still a Gold and the confirmation showed my status as Gold at that time. When I checked using the app yesterday, the booking still shows me having requested an Exec room upgrade at $0. I didn't actually request the upgrade (the screen also showed other upgrade options with the appropriate $ amount) but I assume this is normally how Gold (and Diamond) comp upgrades are indicated.
From reading some of the posts here, I know when I check out and my account is credited with the stay, the elite bonus points will reflect my current status. However, when I check in, will I still be seen as a Gold and get the benefits of Gold (i.e. upgraded room if available and lounge access)? I was prepared to not receive these benefits, but since the booking still shows the request and $0, I'd certainly enjoy receiving them.
Any similar experiences? The property is in Asia, not North America or Europe, if that makes any difference.
#215
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: PHL/EWR
Programs: AA, US, WN, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,528
Also don't want to start a new thread, and a search didn't show up any other appropriate threads relating to a status downgrade.
I booked a stay for a property in September earlier this year when I was still a Gold and the confirmation showed my status as Gold at that time. When I checked using the app yesterday, the booking still shows me having requested an Exec room upgrade at $0. I didn't actually request the upgrade (the screen also showed other upgrade options with the appropriate $ amount) but I assume this is normally how Gold (and Diamond) comp upgrades are indicated.
From reading some of the posts here, I know when I check out and my account is credited with the stay, the elite bonus points will reflect my current status. However, when I check in, will I still be seen as a Gold and get the benefits of Gold (i.e. upgraded room if available and lounge access)? I was prepared to not receive these benefits, but since the booking still shows the request and $0, I'd certainly enjoy receiving them.
Any similar experiences? The property is in Asia, not North America or Europe, if that makes any difference.
I booked a stay for a property in September earlier this year when I was still a Gold and the confirmation showed my status as Gold at that time. When I checked using the app yesterday, the booking still shows me having requested an Exec room upgrade at $0. I didn't actually request the upgrade (the screen also showed other upgrade options with the appropriate $ amount) but I assume this is normally how Gold (and Diamond) comp upgrades are indicated.
From reading some of the posts here, I know when I check out and my account is credited with the stay, the elite bonus points will reflect my current status. However, when I check in, will I still be seen as a Gold and get the benefits of Gold (i.e. upgraded room if available and lounge access)? I was prepared to not receive these benefits, but since the booking still shows the request and $0, I'd certainly enjoy receiving them.
Any similar experiences? The property is in Asia, not North America or Europe, if that makes any difference.
The $0 upgrade sounds like a NOR-1 so I would be inclined to look at OLCI and snag an EL room if available.
#216
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Join Date: Sep 1999
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#218
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Amsterdam, Asia, UK
Programs: IHG RA (Spire), HH Diamond, MR Platinum, SQ Gold, KLM Gold, BAEC Gold
Posts: 5,072
NOR1 is a company that rents software to hotels to help hotels maximise revenue from unsold premium room types , taking a cut of the extra income, very prevalent within Hilton bands, less so the other brands I use.
If you click the upgrade available button available whilst logged into account and viewing an individual reservation (not always offered) you get a screen showing upgrades and full-value/discount-rate you can tick boxes to say which you want if available
If HHD historically I used to see Exec as already ticked as zero money extra, but now NOR1 is prevalent I see same as non elites eg value 60euro discount rate 39euro
This is different from boxes offering you chance to guarantee upgrade with your points
See nor1 site training/sales SmartQ Tutorial
http://training.nor1.com/training/Home.html
If you click the upgrade available button available whilst logged into account and viewing an individual reservation (not always offered) you get a screen showing upgrades and full-value/discount-rate you can tick boxes to say which you want if available
If HHD historically I used to see Exec as already ticked as zero money extra, but now NOR1 is prevalent I see same as non elites eg value 60euro discount rate 39euro
This is different from boxes offering you chance to guarantee upgrade with your points
See nor1 site training/sales SmartQ Tutorial
http://training.nor1.com/training/Home.html
Last edited by scubaccr; Aug 20, 2015 at 12:35 pm
#219
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Location: Marietta, Georgia, United States
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#220
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Thank you both for the explanation and links. Suppose I'll see how this all works out when I get there next month.