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Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33196310)
Not for sitting service, whether outdoor or indoor. There will be open for take away service and delivery (via Lieferando app typically). There might or might not be a curfew when you are there (things are changing a lot every week), there might or might not be shopping under appointment.
One thing for sure: hotels are forbidden for leisure stay so your 2 days stay must be professional or you must stay with a friends (Which might also be forbidden). Other than that, it is pretty boring here -- cannot wait for some neighbouring countries to be removed from being high risk per RKI... |
Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33196310)
One thing for sure: hotels are forbidden for leisure stay so your 2 days stay must be professional or you must stay with a friends (Which might also be forbidden).
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They might ask for proof yes. In principle only business reasons are allowed and hotels do ask for a company letter or something proving that you are travelling for business.
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Originally Posted by SteveHK
(Post 33197181)
Question on that - I'm traveling for a family reason and in transit. Will I need to prove that I'm not a tourist to the hotel somehow? Not sure what I need to check in.
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Originally Posted by FLYGVA
(Post 33201503)
Depending on the federal state and city, a self declaration that you do not travel for touristic reasons is sufficent. It might be, as pointed out by fransknorge a bit difficutl, as some hotels only accept business trips. However, this is not quite correct, as it is not touristic or not lesiure.
Also, some hotels strictly limit themselves to business travellers, as you stated. I've been to such hotels and they demand you fill out the form exempting you from hospitality tax. If you file that while that travelling privately, that's tax evasion essentially. [MENTION=15123]FLYGVA[/MENTION] Just recall back in Nov./Dec. The same rules wrt hotels were in place as today. And several states felt the need to express what constitututes necessary travel over Christmas. If you stayed at a hotel to visit your family back home between Dec 24-26, that was considered necessary travel. Instead, booking a hotel between Dec 30-Jan 2 for a belated family visit was deemed unnecessary and hence prohibited. |
Originally Posted by 8mh
(Post 33201594)
Most states seem to prohibit private travel unless it is for urgent medical or other strictly necessary reasons. A family visit would not be considered necessary I think unless it is something like a funeral, wedding, or somebody terminally ill in the immediate family.
Also, some hotels strictly limit themselves to business travellers, as you stated. I've been to such hotels and they demand you fill out the form exempting you from hospitality tax. If you file that while that travelling privately, that's tax evasion essentially. [MENTION=15123]FLYGVA[/MENTION] Just recall back in Nov./Dec. The same rules wrt hotels were in place as today. And several states felt the need to express what constitututes necessary travel over Christmas. If you stayed at a hotel to visit your family back home between Dec 24-26, that was considered necessary travel. Instead, booking a hotel between Dec 30-Jan 2 for a belated family visit was deemed unnecessary and hence prohibited. A colleague of me needs to visit her 85 year old mother, who is in an old-peoples home and has to deal with paperwork for the old peoples home as well as required work for three tenants with around 28 appartments. She stays once in a month in a hotel for two days and this was okay as well. And as this is a city with city taxes, she pays it as well. It might help, that she does this since three or four years and always stays in the same hotel and on a fixed base (always first Monday to Wednesday in a month). No problems so far, neither in the first lock down nor since November. |
Originally Posted by ExpatExp
(Post 33171572)
Foreign citizens (including US citizens) can enter Germany for the purposes of urgent medical treatment, not available in their home country, if the appropriate forms are completed by the physician in Germany. Details here… Of concern, I do not see the medical exemption listed in Timatic.
Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 33171578)
In theory this is correct. I suggest, however, that you email the Federal Police in FRA, who will give you an answer which is useful to have and print out. The email address is: [email protected]
Originally Posted by cockpitvisit
(Post 33172005)
I agree with LondonElite - your plan appears doable, but better have a response from the German border police in case there are questions during boarding or immigration. The missing information in Timatic about medical exemptions could be a problem - for many airlines, Timatic is the authoritative source for all things immigration, so I am not 100% sure even an official response from the German border police would help should the airline decide to prevent you from boarding based on Timatic. Not sure how to deal with this, to be honest.
Travelling on AA from DFW, my relative encountered zero issues. AA did not ask the reason for the visit to Germany, nor did AA attempt to confirm that the visit was within the range of permitted reasons. Also did not ask to see the medical documentation from the physician in Germany. They wanted only to see the printed digital registration form and a copy of the negative virus test. Could not have been an easier check-in process. I wonder if it would have been the same if trying to check-in with a German airline. When arriving in Germany of course the information about the hospital visit was checked. Everything was found to be in order and there were no issues entering the country :tu: |
Individual states are slowly removing the ban on hotel tourist stays. I know that Bavaria plan do open Friday 21st hotels to tourist, with a hygiene concept and tests. I need to take a break and see something else than my 4 walls so I booked an hotel in Munich for Friday to Monday.
For locals in Munich, what is the current situation re, terrasse for restaurants and cafes ? Test needed I assume but is it ok to just show up ? Does anyone has a good site that will be the first to publish the rules for hotel stay once they are decided ? |
Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33257834)
Individual states are slowly removing the ban on hotel tourist stays. I know that Bavaria plan do open Friday 21st hotels to tourist, with a hygiene concept and tests. I need to take a break and see something else than my 4 walls so I booked an hotel in Munich for Friday to Monday.
For locals in Munich, what is the current situation re, terrasse for restaurants and cafes ? Test needed I assume but is it ok to just show up ? Does anyone has a good site that will be the first to publish the rules for hotel stay once they are decided ? |
Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33257834)
Individual states are slowly removing the ban on hotel tourist stays. I know that Bavaria plan do open Friday 21st hotels to tourist, with a hygiene concept and tests. I need to take a break and see something else than my 4 walls so I booked an hotel in Munich for Friday to Monday.
For locals in Munich, what is the current situation re, terrasse for restaurants and cafes ? Test needed I assume but is it ok to just show up ? Does anyone has a good site that will be the first to publish the rules for hotel stay once they are decided ? Seit 10. Mai 2021 sind in der Gastronomie folgende inzidenzabhängige Öffnungen möglich, wenn die Kreisverwaltungsbehörde dies im Einvernehmen mit dem Gesundheitsministerium zulässt und bekanntmacht:
Ab dem 21. Mai 2021 können in Landkreisen bzw. kreisfreien Städten mit einer stabilen 7-Tage-Inzidenz unter 100 wieder touristische Beherbergungsangebote zugezulassen werden. Voraussetzung ist dabei ein vor max. 24 Stunden vorgenommener negativer Corona-Test (PCR-Test, POC-Antigentest oder Selbsttest unter Aufsicht) der Gäste bei Anreise sowie jeweils alle weiteren 48 Stunden. Vollständig Geimpfte (abschließende Impfung vor mind. 14 Tagen) oder Genesene (mind. 28 Tage und max. 6 Monate alter positiver PCR-Test) sind von den Testpflichten ausgenommen. Gastronomische Angebote von Beherbergungsbetrieben auch im Innenbereich sind dann nur für Hotelgäste und nur bis 22 Uhr zulässig. Weitere Infos folgen an dieser Stelle. https://www.stmwi.bayern.de/coronavirus/ |
Thanks. That is is line with what I found so far. I called the hotel yesterday to verify one point (is an antigen test performed in front of a receptionist acceptable ?) and they were quite in the dark, they say they received nothing yet official about what they can accept and do. Outdoor dining but maybe some sort of things could be offer in the Executive Lounge (I will be in Hilton Munich Park).
I will report after the week-end. |
The rules in Munich now that we are safely in the 50-100 range are detailled here: https://www.muenchen.de/rathaus/Stad...us.html#Gastro
Unless we are 5 days below 50, which looks unlikely till Friday (we only went below 50 today), there will be no change. |
I have tried to update the Wiki in this thread. As the 7 day incidence ist now below 100 or even 50, the rules are relaxed in many federal states. But this also means, that rules differ depening on federal state, county or even city. In so far, it get as usual within Germany a bit complicated. Feel free to edit the WiKi if you noticed something wrong or unclear.
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Originally Posted by FLYGVA
(Post 33291726)
I have tried to update the Wiki in this thread. As the 7 day incidence ist now below 100 or even 50, the rules are relaxed in many federal states. But this also means, that rules differ depening on federal state, county or even city. In so far, it get as usual within Germany a bit complicated. Feel free to edit the WiKi if you noticed something wrong or unclear.
Thanks Though there are technically no closed borders at the moment, if might be worth summarising/linking to the entry requirements on the Auswärtiges Amt website. Basically most travellers are not allowed into Germany unless they are a German citizen/resident, arriving from another EEA country, are exempt in some way or are travelling from the small number of countries on the special list. There might be more questions about this as we head into the summer.. Edit: Should have included the link! https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/einreiseundaufenthalt/coronavirus |
Dusting off an older thread as much has changed since the spring.
I believe currently U.S. citizens can travel to Germany with just proof of vaccination and no COVID test is required. Is that correct? |
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