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FLYMSY May 16, 2022 6:50 am

Here we go again!

You’ve posted the same comments above and received very helpful information - above. The ranting comments don’t add anything useful to the discussion and will do nothing to provide a solution to your specific “issues “.

Relax, you’ll get to go on, and, hopefully, enjoy your trip.

flyingfkb May 18, 2022 8:36 am


Originally Posted by EqualOpp (Post 34245376)
so after reading various websites and the above FAQ as it stands now, as an American passport holder, I would be entering Germany by TRAIN after spending a few days in France. I am a dirty, heretical, scandalously unvaxxed plague rat. I'm responsible for the death of thousands.

So all I will need is an antigen or PCR test within 48 hours? is that what I read correctly?

Every person over 6 years of age is obliged to carry proof of their COVID‑19 status when entering Germany, regardless of the country from which they are travelling. Every person entering Germany must provide the responsible authority or the border officials with a negative test result, proof of vaccination or proof of recovery. People travelling by air must present the same proof to their air carrier.

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/f...97140bodyText1

Can not not comment about your hygienic status since I do not know you.

mustafina May 18, 2022 9:44 am


Originally Posted by flyingfkb (Post 34260282)
Every person over 6 years of age is obliged to carry proof of their COVID‑19 status when entering Germany, regardless of the country from which they are travelling. Every person entering Germany must provide the responsible authority or the border officials with a negative test result, proof of vaccination or proof of recovery. People travelling by air must present the same proof to their air carrier.

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/f...97140bodyText1

Can not not comment about your hygienic status since I do not know you.

Note also that there are currently regular border checks on trains entering Germany, so you may well be asked to show proof on arrival even if you're not flying.

mustafina May 18, 2022 9:51 am

Deleted - I was wrong.

tovo May 21, 2022 7:37 am

Octoberfest
 
My tour group organizer says I have to show vaccine to get there but have to get tested before coming back. I have to quarantine if I test positive. Quarantine hotel rooms are my responsibility.
I own my own business and it would be a pain quarateening in germany. If you were me, would you go or wait till next year?

goodeats21 May 21, 2022 8:18 am


Originally Posted by tovo (Post 34268276)
My tour group organizer says I have to show vaccine to get there but have to get tested before coming back. I have to quarantine if I test positive. Quarantine hotel rooms are my responsibility.
I own my own business and it would be a pain quarateening in germany. If you were me, would you go or wait till next year?

Assume you are returning home to USA?

This is kind of a decision only you can make. There is a non-zero chance that you will test positive, so you have to factor in that risk.

There is also the chance that pre-arrival tests to come back to the USA will be dropped by September.
There is also the chance that another surge/outbreak causes disruptions to the 'fest as well.

September is a long ways off yet in Covid terms.
I am planning to attend, but am able to mitigate risk by working remotely and have flexible travel arrangments.

tovo May 21, 2022 8:59 am

Yes, it will be us. I am a physician so I can do televisit if necessary from Germany.
But the pain of canceling my patients, having to go out and find food, wash clothes and find a cheap hotel in munich are the negatives. Can you imagine being couped up in a hotel in germany for 5 plus days. I have had patients who test positive for covid 1 month after getting it.

goodeats21 May 21, 2022 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by tovo (Post 34268448)
Yes, it will be us. I am a physician so I can do televisit if necessary from Germany.
But the pain of canceling my patients, having to go out and find food, wash clothes and find a cheap hotel in munich are the negatives. Can you imagine being couped up in a hotel in germany for 5 plus days. I have had patients who test positive for covid 1 month after getting it.

I don't have to imagine it. I was "couped up" in a hospital in Thailand for 10 days of quarantine after a positive test (asymptomatic). A hotel would have been paradise by comparison. Just the risks of international travel now.

There is a recent thread in the Germany forum from someone asking about quarantine options in Munich due to a positive test, so it is a possibility.

pbiflyer May 21, 2022 7:39 pm

A couple of my friends went to Germany of a beer tour. Wife tested positive, husband did not. He headed home while she quarantined. Figured he might catch it, extending the trip, so he left. Another consideration for you.
She cleared 5 days later. Hotel was less than additional airfare. But she could go outside to hike in the small town she was in.

tovo May 21, 2022 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by goodeats21 (Post 34269339)
I don't have to imagine it. I was "couped up" in a hospital in Thailand for 10 days of quarantine after a positive test (asymptomatic). A hotel would have been paradise by comparison. Just the risks of international travel now.

There is a recent thread in the Germany forum from someone asking about quarantine options in Munich due to a positive test, so it is a possibility.

When was this? Did you wear a mask?

My friend wants to go and is in the side of you can't let covid dictate your life. She says just wear a mask and use sanitizer, especially inside the beer tents. When we eat, we will just go outside and sit on a hill somewhere to take our masks off to eat. I want to go badly but decrease my risk to near zero as possible. .

fransknorge May 22, 2022 12:39 am

ff you are a physician, you were frontline during the pandemic for more than 2 years. I am sure you know how to minimize risks (and you know a sanitizer is as useful to prevent COVID than a box of magic bone powder), you do not need the advise of random strangers on an internet bulletin board.

offerendum May 22, 2022 3:12 am

[QUOTE=pbiflyer;34269661. But she could go outside to hike in the small town she was in.[/QUOTE]
Of course you can if you break the law......

mustafina May 22, 2022 6:04 am


Originally Posted by tovo (Post 34268448)
Yes, it will be us. I am a physician so I can do televisit if necessary from Germany.
But the pain of canceling my patients, having to go out and find food, wash clothes and find a cheap hotel in munich are the negatives. Can you imagine being couped up in a hotel in germany for 5 plus days. I have had patients who test positive for covid 1 month after getting it.

If you want this risk to be zero, don't come. In a beer tent with drunk people from all over the world for several days, I'd say there's a high chance you'll catch it, unless you have very recently been infected. Some of the people inside might suspect they're positive but won't take a test because they feel OK, don't want to miss out on their trip, don't want to deal with quarantine in a foreign country etc. and would rather not know.

Of course, who knows what any of the travel (or local) rules will be in 4 months.

goodeats21 May 22, 2022 6:20 am


Originally Posted by tovo (Post 34269780)
When was this? Did you wear a mask?

My friend wants to go and is in the side of you can't let covid dictate your life. She says just wear a mask and use sanitizer, especially inside the beer tents. When we eat, we will just go outside and sit on a hill somewhere to take our masks off to eat. I want to go badly but decrease my risk to near zero as possible. .

This was March of 2021. You can read about it here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33091203-post1140.html
Masks worn on LONG plane trip to Thailand and while in the hotel during quarantine. Sometimes positive tests happen regardless of precautions.

Sanitizer isn't going to really help. If you are in the beer halls, you will have your mask off most of the time to be drinking (I assume). Not sure I understand the comment about going outside and taking mask off to eat.
There are outdoor tables set up at most tents, which would decrease your risk. But the atmosphere is not the same as inside.


Originally Posted by fransknorge (Post 34269936)
ff you are a physician, you were frontline during the pandemic for more than 2 years. I am sure you know how to minimize risks (and you know a sanitizer is as useful to prevent COVID than a box of magic bone powder), you do not need the advise of random strangers on an internet bulletin board.

Kinda agree with this. We can help with travel logistics / opinions, but you have to be aware of the basics here.

tovo May 22, 2022 7:47 am

There are articles on the web that US might drop thr pre departure testing soon. Hopefully this makes it a moot point..

The tour operator did say that more people.are wanting to go to.okoberfest due to 2 years of not having it.

But still, just the thought of being couped up in munich for 5 plus days does not appeal to me.. that is why I want to minimize my chances as much qs possible.

This is the physician inside of me. I am going to wear n95 mask everywhere I go when I leave the room. Hand sanitizer, soap and water will be with me everywhere I go.
For the beer tents, when we get our food, instead of sitting a thet reserved table, we will find a spot outside or on a hill somewhere where few are around and eat there.

Do they still do temperature checks at the airport? If so take Tylenol before going so they don't mistakenly say I have a fever.


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