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wolf72 Jul 19, 2017 6:03 pm

Visiting Munich
 
Hi

We are flying into Munich as a family of 5 for a 4 day trip to watch a soccer tournament at the Allianze Arena in early August.

At the moment, room rates at IHG hotels website shows the airport hotel being the cheapest for us as a family and then to pay for an airport shuttle to/from the hotel and to take the train into Munich each day and to spend the day there and then head back to the hotel after touring the city.

But given we have kids with us, and the soccer match's are going to probably finish after 10.30pm, it could be a tiring journey for them taking the train into Munich, and then the train ride back to the airport and then getting to the hotel. I can see this could potentially be a 2 hour trip each day after the tournament (a 2 day tournament).

Does this make sense to stay at the airport or are we better off looking for a hotel in the city and paying more?

soitgoes Jul 19, 2017 6:48 pm

I would look for a hotel with direct access to the S-Bahn or U-Bahn. Dealing with a hotel shuttle from the airport at each end of the trip would grow tiring and time consuming.

tom911 Jul 19, 2017 6:53 pm

Look in the city and pay more. Take a look at the Motel One chain which has a couple Munich properties, though if there are tens of thousands coming in for this soccer game you may be too late to get rooms with them.

wolf72 Jul 19, 2017 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by soitgoes (Post 28581760)
I would look for a hotel with direct access to the S-Bahn or U-Bahn. Dealing with a hotel shuttle from the airport at each end of the trip would grow tiring and time consuming.

Understood. You are probably right.


Originally Posted by tom911 (Post 28581776)
Look in the city and pay more. Take a look at the Motel One chain which has a couple Munich properties, though if there are tens of thousands coming in for this soccer game you may be too late to get rooms with them.


Alright. Will give it a look and hope there are rooms left. Many thanks for the heads-up and advice.

PAX_fips Jul 20, 2017 1:58 am

Motel-One in Garching-Hochbrueck is just one Underground hop north of Allianz-Arena and directly at the station. That Underground (U6) goes to city centre aswell.
Problem is that it's a pain to go there/from the airport - a taxi is 50E each way, maybe a bit premium to get a taxi-van for 5 of you.

Next to it is also an Ibis and Ibis-Budget.

wolf72 Jul 20, 2017 2:25 am


Originally Posted by PAX_fips (Post 28582866)
Motel-One in Garching-Hochbrueck is just one Underground hop north of Allianz-Arena and directly at the station. That Underground (U6) goes to city centre aswell.
Problem is that it's a pain to go there/from the airport - a taxi is 50E each way, maybe a bit premium to get a taxi-van for 5 of you.

Next to it is also an Ibis and Ibis-Budget.

Thanks for the tip and suggestion. I managed to get a room for 2 nights at:

Motel One München-City-West
Landsberger Strasse 79
80339 Muenchen

The rest of the hotels were full on the dates of the match's so no surprise why. :)

wolf72 Jul 20, 2017 2:27 am


Originally Posted by tom911 (Post 28581776)
Look in the city and pay more. Take a look at the Motel One chain which has a couple Munich properties, though if there are tens of thousands coming in for this soccer game you may be too late to get rooms with them.

Done. Managed to get a room for 2 nights at:

Motel One München-City-West
Landsberger Strasse 79
80339 Muenchen

As you correctly stated, all the other Motel One's were sold out on the 1st and 2nd Aug because of the supporters coming in from Italy (Napoli), Spain (Ath. Madrid), Liverpool supporters from the UK.

Hope this is a convient hotel to get to the allianz arena. :)

PAX_fips Jul 20, 2017 2:33 am

That's pretty much in the centre, S-Bahn 'Donnersbergerbruecke' is just next to it. Take any train in direction Hauptbahnhof and change at Marienplatz into U6 (downstairs) in direction Garching/Forschungszentrum.
Guestimate is a 40min ride - and likely a very crowded train.

If you like to buy tickets (or an app) in advance: http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/homepage/index.html

wolf72 Jul 20, 2017 2:35 am


Originally Posted by PAX_fips (Post 28582935)
That's pretty much in the centre, S-Bahn 'Donnersbergerbruecke' is just next to it. Take any train in direction Hauptbahnhof and change at Marienplatz into U6 (downstairs) in direction Garching/Forschungszentrum.
Guestimate is a 40min ride - and likely a very crowded train.

If you like to buy tickets (or an app) in advance: http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/homepage/index.html

Thank you for the advice. Trying to understand the trail system. Can we buy a multi-day ticket pass via the app you suggested? Or should we just buy tickets on a day to day basis to the Allianze Arena and back for myself and the kids?

PAX_fips Jul 20, 2017 2:45 am

If you only go Motel-one/Allianz and back a single/return would be cheaper, any add-on and a day-pass would be cheaper - also depends on age of the kids.
I think your best option is a group-day-ticket (you only need 'inner district') http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/ticket...ket/index.html - peace of mind and all that.

The app seems to be unable to purchase group-day-tickets, weird.

oliver2002 Jul 20, 2017 2:55 am

Buy the 'streifenkarte' and use it as required. Children only need to stamp 1 bar for any journey @:-)

wolf72 Jul 20, 2017 3:55 am


Originally Posted by PAX_fips (Post 28582959)
If you only go Motel-one/Allianz and back a single/return would be cheaper, any add-on and a day-pass would be cheaper - also depends on age of the kids.
I think your best option is a group-day-ticket (you only need 'inner district') http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/ticket...ket/index.html - peace of mind and all that.

The app seems to be unable to purchase group-day-tickets, weird.

Thank you very much sir for your help. Really appreciate it :)

wolf72 Jul 20, 2017 3:55 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 28582975)
Buy the 'streifenkarte' and use it as required. Children only need to stamp 1 bar for any journey @:-)

Got it. Will do that then. :))

PAX_fips Jul 20, 2017 4:21 am

Sidenote: "stamping" is at/before the platform - *not* in the train. (other way round in Cologne..)

wolf72 Jul 20, 2017 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by PAX_fips (Post 28583096)
Sidenote: "stamping" is at/before the platform - *not* in the train. (other way round in Cologne..)

Noted. So, we always must get the ticket stamped before boarding the train at any time.

Flying Lawyer Jul 21, 2017 3:37 am


Originally Posted by wolf72 (Post 28586000)
Noted. So, we always must get the ticket stamped before boarding the train at any time.

True for the S-Bahn and the U-Bahn, different for busses and tramways. There simply is not chance to stamp the ticket in the S-Bahn and the U-Bahn.


P.S.: And this is true for other cities with real Subway system (which Cologne does not have) and all S-Bahn trains nationwide.

wolf72 Jul 21, 2017 3:51 am


Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer (Post 28587102)
True for the S-Bahn and the U-Bahn, different for busses and tramways. There simply is not chance to stamp the ticket in the S-Bahn and the U-Bahn.


P.S.: And this is true for other cities with real Subway system (which Cologne does not have) and all S-Bahn trains nationwide.

Understood. Thank you very much for explaining. I didn't know all this prior to you guys explaining.

PAX_fips Jul 21, 2017 6:25 am

That's why I prefer a day-pass - just screw all you "Verbund" clowns with different rules for everything :)

TheMadeTraveler Jul 21, 2017 6:36 am


Originally Posted by wolf72 (Post 28582926)

Motel One München-City-West

Hope this is a convient hotel to get to the allianz arena. :)

It might take around half an hour to reach to allianz arena from Motel One.

U-Bahm option would be good to reach to Allianz Arean.

Below is the article which provides information about reaching the Allianz Arena by U-Bahn.

http://europeforvisitors.com/munich/...directions.htm

beachfan Jan 22, 2018 12:36 pm

Location aside, any thoughts on the quality of the hard product at Le Meridien vs. Hilton Park?

Any differences in likelihood of suite upgrades?

thanks in advance

oliver2002 Jan 23, 2018 2:44 am

Both properties are OKish on the hard product, I would consider them nearly equal. The view from the Hilton is better, but you excluded location comments... ;)

beachfan Jan 23, 2018 9:37 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 29327861)
Both properties are OKish on the hard product, I would consider them nearly equal. The view from the Hilton is better, but you excluded location comments... ;)

Hi;

Thanks for the comments, location as well. I would have thought people would have said Le Meridien is better/worse because of it's location near the train station. I assume the Hilton will benefit by it's location by English Park, but take an extra 10-15 minutes to get to my activities other than walking in the park.

oliver2002 Jan 23, 2018 11:50 am

The surroundings of the Le Meridien are pretty crappy. The tram and bus line in front of the Hilton park will take you anywhere interesting in 10 minutes.

LondonElite Jan 26, 2018 2:57 pm

Both are functional properties that provide a clean bed in a rectangular room. Neither is a destination property and I have zero desire to stay at either one again. For the same money you can do much much better in Munich.

beachfan Jan 26, 2018 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 29343827)
Both are functional properties that provide a clean bed in a rectangular room. Neither is a destination property and I have zero desire to stay at either one again. For the same money you can do much much better in Munich.

I'd be all open to hearing about options at the same cost, but not sure it's possible as these are award stays at chains where I have top status (so free breakfast, likely upgrades, etc.).

If you have suggestions at 150 euros/night in May, I'm interested.

oliver2002 Jan 27, 2018 2:03 am

If you want a room with breakfast downtown, stay here: Hotel Eder - Hotel

offerendum Jan 27, 2018 6:21 am


Originally Posted by beachfan (Post 29343906)
I'd be all open to hearing about options at the same cost, but not sure it's possible as these are award stays at chains where I have top status (so free breakfast, likely upgrades, etc.).

If you have suggestions at 150 euros/night in May, I'm interested.

At this price point it’s not easy. What about Westin Grand? Not a perfect location but would rate it over Hilton and Le Meridien. I normally stay at the Charles but it comes with another price tag. If I had to choose one location I would stay at Le Meridien.

LondonElite Jan 27, 2018 6:32 am


Originally Posted by beachfan (Post 29343906)
I'd be all open to hearing about options at the same cost, but not sure it's possible as these are award stays at chains where I have top status (so free breakfast, likely upgrades, etc.).

If you have suggestions at 150 euros/night in May, I'm interested.

Try Hotel and der Oper or Platz Hotel for your dates. Excellent location and good value for money in my opinion. Between the two I prefer the Hotel and der Oper.


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 29345646)

At this price point it’s not easy. What about Westin Grand? Not a perfect location but would rate it over Hilton and Le Meridien. I normally stay at the Charles but it comes with another price tag. If I had to choose one location I would stay at Le Meridien.

Agree.

beachfan Jan 27, 2018 2:58 pm

So based on location, two votes for Meridien and one for Hilton Park.

puchong Feb 3, 2018 7:47 pm

As oliver2002 mentioned, the Meridien is located in a somewhat 'rough and tumble' Hauptbahnhof zone; however its easy access from the main station is without a doubt. The Park Hilton (perhaps my favourite hotel in Minga) is a much nicer place to stay - not only for the running creek next to it and the green views from the balcony, but also because most of the staff are very nice, besides, the Englische Garten is just a stone's throw away and is a delight to visit, especially during the summer.

craz Jan 8, 2019 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by PAX_fips (Post 28582935)
That's pretty much in the centre, S-Bahn 'Donnersbergerbruecke' is just next to it. Take any train in direction Hauptbahnhof and change at Marienplatz into U6 (downstairs) in direction Garching/Forschungszentrum.
Guestimate is a 40min ride - and likely a very crowded train.

If you like to buy tickets (or an app) in advance: http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/homepage/index.html

looking to stay1 or 2 nights in MUC most likely at The Hampton Inn which is a short walk from S-Bahn 'Donnersbergerbruecke' . My plan is to visit Dachau which I plan to do on my own via train/bus.

My question is, is there a 24 hr pass that will let me go to/from the airport as well as to Dachau? Or is it better to buy a r/t LH Bus tkt 17E to the main station get a local 1 day pass to go to Donnersbergerbruecke and later that day to Dachau

That said what would be best if I make it a 2 nighter still at The Hampton, reason for The HI is least amount of pts needed for the room, toying with a 2nd night in order to walk around and checkout the city , most likely late May

oliver2002 Jan 9, 2019 3:18 am

The Airport is farther away from Munich than Dachau, so the day pass will cover the trip.

craz Jan 9, 2019 9:50 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 30631000)
The Airport is farther away from Munich than Dachau, so the day pass will cover the trip.

Is it cheaper or better to buy say the LH Bus r/t and then a city day pass or since the savings will be min just go with the Train day pass and a 1 way to the airport for the return. thats assuming the LH Bus is still an open return which wont be the case with the train pass

Tried finding the actual costs nowadays for each and wasnt successful except that the LH Bus is 17E r/t , since the SB has a stop not far from my intended hotel that would be great but if the savings are enough I dont mind the extra time especially with a 7am arrival no hotel will let me in anyways most likely. So to save 2 E probably not worth it but for 5E + its worth the savings

oliver2002 Jan 9, 2019 11:21 am

The entire network 24h ticket costs 22.90EUR: https://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/ticke...ard/index.html

Thats cheaper than the LH bus or a bunch of one way tickets for sure.

tom911 Jan 9, 2019 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 30629611)
looking to stay1 or 2 nights in MUC most likely at The Hampton Inn which is a short walk from S-Bahn 'Donnersbergerbruecke' .

I was there just last month. Pretty impressive breakfast for a Hampton Inn. Photos of the property in this gallery: https://tom911.smugmug.com/Travel-Eu...y/2018-Munich/

craz Jan 9, 2019 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by tom911 (Post 30632926)
I was there just last month. Pretty impressive breakfast for a Hampton Inn. Photos of the property in this gallery: https://tom911.smugmug.com/Travel-Eu...y/2018-Munich/

Thx for sharing, was able to see what I will be missing since no outdoor Xmas mkt in May, whats the name of the place with the figurines, guess Noon is the best show?

Nice breakfast spread but due to a special diet all I will beable to do is look

Does the hotel have a shuttle into downtown, I doubt it , is it walkable or just jump on the train for 1 stop to the Main Station

craz Jan 9, 2019 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 30632662)
The entire network 24h ticket costs 22.90EUR: https://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/ticke...ard/index.html

Thats cheaper than the LH bus or a bunch of one way tickets for sure.

thx, the results I got from a Yahoo search was showing alot more

Arriving very early in the morning and was hoping to grab a noonish flight out , so that Pass wont help me to get back to MUC , while the LH Bus doesnt have a limit on the return portion, or just make sure Im on a train to the airport before the clock strikes 12 or whatever time it was used 1st. Or is the Pass a calendar thing and not a 24 hour thing which would mean having to be on a train by 6am

Will probably stay 2 nights and knock Dachau off the 1st day with having all an all day pass and fend someway on day 2

tom911 Jan 9, 2019 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 30633444)
Thx for sharing, was able to see what I will be missing since no outdoor Xmas mkt in May, whats the name of the place with the figurines, guess Noon is the best show?

That's the Rathaus (Town Hall) with the Glockenspiel just across from Marienplatz station. Can't recall the times when the figurines move, but do recall reading it was twice a day. I just stumbled into that when I was in the area.


Does the hotel have a shuttle into downtown, I doubt it , is it walkable or just jump on the train for 1 stop to the Main Station
I didn't see a shuttle. No, not walkable. It's right across the tracks from the train station - you'll see that in the photos - maybe a 5 min walk and there's a walkway down stairs just off the overpass. It's one stop from Munich Hackerbrucke station which has a Vapianos (a chain with salads, pasta and pizza) and two stops from Munich HBF, the central train station. Continue on two stops from there and you're at Marienplatz.

oliver2002 Jan 10, 2019 12:32 am


Originally Posted by craz (Post 30633494)
Or is the Pass a calendar thing and not a 24 hour thing which would mean having to be on a train by 6am

The city thing is for tourists and valid for 24h exactly. They also have a day pass which is valid for the calendar day (actually till 6am the next morning) and cheaper.

craz Jan 10, 2019 5:44 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 30635401)
The city thing is for tourists and valid for 24h exactly. They also have a day pass which is valid for the calendar day (actually till 6am the next morning) and cheaper.

Got it thx, and now I also understand why I was seeing different prices. Now to workout which to get and when that only I can decide what works best


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