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Originally Posted by ch3ss
(Post 18405649)
What kind of love are they giving players when it comes to comps ?
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Originally Posted by gengar
(Post 18409124)
I went for a bachelor party a few weeks ago and the comps were awful - front desk agent linked my players account and said the comps would come straight off the final room bill, and I would estimate only about 10-12% of ADT.
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I opened a card a few years ago but never really played until quite recently. After a few hours of playing the slots with $2.50-$5 bets, I decided to call it quits while leaving positive. I noticed on my account online that I have $20 comp dollars and $10 slot dollars after playing that one day along with a room offer. Should I expect anything else via mail/e-mail? I doubt I would even be considered a worthy player deserving of comps but wanted to get some input from you guys..
I was thinking about going to a CET property due to the promo they have since I don't have a card with them but decided to go to the Borg instead. |
Originally Posted by Jimgotkp
(Post 19328073)
I opened a card a few years ago but never really played until quite recently. After a few hours of playing the slots with $2.50-$5 bets, I decided to call it quits while leaving positive. I noticed on my account online that I have $20 comp dollars and $10 slot dollars after playing that one day along with a room offer. Should I expect anything else via mail/e-mail? I doubt I would even be considered a worthy player deserving of comps but wanted to get some input from you guys..
I was thinking about going to a CET property due to the promo they have since I don't have a card with them but decided to go to the Borg instead. |
using slot dollars at borgata vs revel vs cet system comment
From playing slots at various casinos you will earn free slot play for future visits.
At both Borgata and Revel, you do not earn comp dollars (or the equivalent) from your play with "bonus" slot dollars. [This feature is NOT mentioned in their literature.] In CET (=Harrahs system), you do earn base tier credits from your play with "free" slot dollars. |
Originally Posted by ch3ss
(Post 18405649)
BK:
I never did make it to Borgota... shame on me..... What kind of love are they giving players when it comes to comps ? I usually play about $50-$75 a roll on Craps, and about $40-$60 on Roulette, and then of course maybe about 250-400 on Slots just to give it a spin... BankRoll is usually between 2500-4k.....
Originally Posted by gengar
(Post 18409124)
I went for a bachelor party a few weeks ago and the comps were awful - front desk agent linked my players account and said the comps would come straight off the final room bill, and I would estimate only about 10-12% of ADT.
Originally Posted by ch3ss
(Post 18411932)
OUCH really.....
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 19344970)
Tables games such as baccarat or craps @ Borgata earn around $15-$20 in comps per hour per $100/average bet. Usually a $150 (or so average) will get you rooms 6 days a week (Sunday to Friday), with $99 to $139 Saturday nights. Will also earn you promotional match plays ($400 to $600 per month) + offers for merchandise, some shows, and events (such as blackjack tournaments, low level - $20K or so prize pools). This is, of course, based on at least 4 hours of play per day. Step it up to around $250/average bet, and you will also see those Saturday nights being comp'ed in the future. Borgata is very good about discretionary comps. You can usually snag a comp for the steakhouse or any venue that does NOT come off your points at least once during your trip. (ask for it at the tables, at least 20 minutes or so before you plan on leaving). Also if you do log the 4 hours per day, they will often comp off any of the room rates (such as a $99 Saturday night) at the end of your stay. Hosts are very good, IMO, at Borgata.
Until recently I had never seen a Saturday night comp on my account, even during the off-peak season, but after a recent trip which would have put my average comp dollars per trip in the $50-60 range I am currently seeing most upcoming Saturdays available comped. I suspect this may be in part due to increasing competition from Revel, though as of last weekend the Borgata casino was packed while the Revel casino was most definitely not (multiple empty $10 tables at 7pm on Saturday) so Borgata probably doesn't have that much to worry about. Borgata also recently (since January) renovated its rooms in the main tower, almost certainly due to competitive pressure from Revel, and they're now very nice, much improved from having been getting rather worn. |
Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 19344970)
Tables games such as baccarat or craps @ Borgata earn around $15-$20 in comps per hour per $100/average bet.
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A bit OT, but are the offer codes transferable for discounted rooms? A buddy of mine is organizing a weekend there in January, and I am wondering if there is any way to notch down the $249 rate.
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Originally Posted by onfo
(Post 19713525)
A bit OT, but are the offer codes transferable for discounted rooms? A buddy of mine is organizing a weekend there in January, and I am wondering if there is any way to notch down the $249 rate.
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Just got Black card and checked out the Amphora lounge, love the open bar! Just wondering:
How long can you stay there before getting booted out? What other casinos can I take the black card to and status match? Any gems? |
Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 19726913)
Just got Black card and checked out the Amphora lounge, love the open bar! Just wondering:
How long can you stay there before getting booted out? What other casinos can I take the black card to and status match? Any gems? (2)In AC, I think Harrah's (now Ceasars) system and Revel will do status match. (3)Open bar can mean lots of things: (a)self serve liquor, (b)unlimited drinks delivered by the bar tender or server. At Borgata (as far I know), it is (b), and eventually they may send you away.:D |
Originally Posted by nrr
(Post 19749030)
(1)if its not busy, you could hang out for a while--but at busy times the lines (to get in) can be long, and so they would need to open up space for the waitees.
(2)In AC, I think Harrah's (now Ceasars) system and Revel will do status match. (3)Open bar can mean lots of things: (a)self serve liquor, (b)unlimited drinks delivered by the bar tender or server. At Borgata (as far I know), it is (b), and eventually they may send you away.:D 3. I like my booze, but you could probably kick me out on my 3rd Ketel Martini or Makers Old Fashioned and I wouldn't grumble. Well I would grumble, but that would be to do with the booze, but I would be happy :) |
Originally Posted by nrr
(Post 19749030)
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(3)Open bar can mean lots of things: (a)self serve liquor, (b)unlimited drinks delivered by the bar tender or server. At Borgata (as far I know), it is (b), and eventually they may send you away.:D |
Originally Posted by mjcewl1284
(Post 20049247)
At the Amphora Lounge, IME I've never been cut off by their bartenders (we're talking 4 or 5 vodka crans later). I hold my liquor pretty well and probably someone who looks really drunk might be turned away. Just my two cents.
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Had a couple of trips since I last posted here, I am a huge fan of the AL. They are very liquor focused which is fine, but I would prefer a bit more quality wine and beer (the borgata in general is lacking in good beer, but they do have the HopDevil now on tap in some bars which helps).
Anybody else do game the system on the table match plays? :) |
Does anyone know if Borgata has a status matching policy? I haven't been there in a while but still get offers - however, I'm more inclined to use CET casinos if I can't match to a black card to get better access.
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Originally Posted by Rookie3
(Post 20066826)
Does anyone know if Borgata has a status matching policy? I haven't been there in a while but still get offers - however, I'm more inclined to use CET casinos if I can't match to a black card to get better access.
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Originally Posted by Rookie3
(Post 20066826)
Does anyone know if Borgata has a status matching policy? I haven't been there in a while but still get offers - however, I'm more inclined to use CET casinos if I can't match to a black card to get better access.
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I've had a few PMs asking about how I maximize the table match plays, it just so happens that is the post of the day on my blog so if any of you are interested or use match play coupons there are some tips here http://saverocity.com/blog/maximizing-casino-comps/
I'm new to the whole blogging thing so if you would like to leave comments about the content I would be very receptive to your feedback, how well I explained my idea of arbitrate betting the match plays for almost zero risk etc. Cheers. I also talk about my overall 'haul' in comps for 2012 which I valued at about $13K |
Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20066037)
Had a couple of trips since I last posted here, I am a huge fan of the AL. They are very liquor focused which is fine, but I would prefer a bit more quality wine and beer (the borgata in general is lacking in good beer, but they do have the HopDevil now on tap in some bars which helps).
Anybody else do game the system on the table match plays? :) With regard to table match plays @ Borg, I get around $1200 to $2500 per month; and tend to play them off (as $25s) on the pass line at craps. Only thing better would be high-limit blackjack, but I prefer the lower limit variance of $25s (instead of $100/$200 per hand match-plays for high limit blackjack) Borgata is by far my favorite property in AC (I visit approximately once per month). But, Mohegan Sun is my favorite casino in the area. Of course, Borgata also gets a slight edge on gaming, since they have a big baccarat game that is (usually) open on Saturday evenings. (and that, is by far, my favorite casino game) |
Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 20078139)
I like Amphora, but it doesn't compare to the lounges at Mohegan Sun. While I'm not a big beer drinker, they have quite a few on tap including Guinness. And, I'm quite the fan of Guinness + Moët, on a few occasions. Also, no comparison on the premium liquor selection. All the vodkas (Belvedere, Goose, Ketel, etc. etc.), 4+ premium tequilas, 18 year old scotch, 20 year port, and my favorite 100 year Grand Marnier (and that's just a small sample). Additionally, lounges (3 regular) have at least one that is open 24/7 + there is smoking (yep, I'm a cigar person) in one of the lounges.
With regard to table match plays @ Borg, I get around $1200 to $2500 per month; and tend to play them off (as $25s) on the pass line at craps. Only thing better would be high-limit blackjack, but I prefer the lower limit variance of $25s (instead of $100/$200 per hand match-plays for high limit blackjack) Borgata is by far my favorite property in AC (I visit approximately once per month). But, Mohegan Sun is my favorite casino in the area. Of course, Borgata also gets a slight edge on gaming, since they have a big baccarat game that is (usually) open on Saturday evenings. (and that, is by far, my favorite casino game) Never been to CT for gaming, do you think they would match my Black card there? I like the Borg too, but the best two restaurants for me are Knife&Fork (happy hour apps at the bar 1/2 price!!!) and Revel Amada tasting menu. |
Ps I dealt Bac in London, the vig was calculated by hand and you had to pay and take so that the player never had more than 3 quarters, 4 singles, 4 nickels at any time. It was an art.
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20078696)
Ps I dealt Bac in London, the vig was calculated by hand and you had to pay and take so that the player never had more than 3 quarters, 4 singles, 4 nickels at any time. It was an art.
Last Saturday night @borg, two Macao midi-baccarat tables were operating in high limit (big baccarat was closed), both $100 tables. About a half hour after I got there, an Asian lady took an old crumpled plastic bag out of her purse. Cash buy in, $75,000. Yep, it took them a few minutes to do that count + drop. :D |
Anyone at the B? I am. So much foot traffic going through the area due to the Borgata Winter Open. Should be a great trip for me, I leave this coming Tues.
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 20081512)
Love it, more baccarat stories, please. :D
Last Saturday night @borg, two Macao midi-baccarat tables were operating in high limit (big baccarat was closed), both $100 tables. About a half hour after I got there, an Asian lady took an old crumpled plastic bag out of her purse. Cash buy in, $75,000. Yep, it took them a few minutes to do that count + drop. :D Didn't get a huge Bac game there, but it was part of a chain of London casino (The flagship for high end gaming) so on a quiet night they would whisk is away in limos to help out at the lower end clubs (some of which were still super action clubs but didn't come with the 1000 GBP annual membership... ) my mate went with me and was told to supervise a heaving Bac game, full sized table with high stool tennis umpire like individual supervisor. The game was packed and good sized action occuring, bets in five figures. As he came from the flagship it was assumed he was an expert. However he had never been taught Bac and didn't even know how a player won, let alone drawing rules and vig! He bs-d his way through it by looking stern...all ended well. Good memories, I still like Bac but I always try to bet the break not the streak as whilst some people think all things must streak I think all streaks must end... |
Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 20078139)
I like Amphora, but it doesn't compare to the lounges at Mohegan Sun.
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20073997)
I've had a few PMs asking about how I maximize the table match plays, it just so happens that is the post of the day on my blog so if any of you are interested or use match play coupons there are some tips here http://saverocity.com/blog/maximizing-casino-comps/
I'm new to the whole blogging thing so if you would like to leave comments about the content I would be very receptive to your feedback, how well I explained my idea of arbitrate betting the match plays for almost zero risk etc. Cheers. I also talk about my overall 'haul' in comps for 2012 which I valued at about $13K I don't play craps so I skipped that section but think you may want to revist your roulette calculation. In your example you have the $100 coupon on red, $100 on red, $100 on black and $6 on 0/00. I'm not understanding your win calculation in outcome #1. If you hit red you win $200 and lose $106 so I think you win $94. Where is the extra $100 coming from? Also, in outcome #3, the half back is only in some places - for example on a 0-00 table in vegas you would get nothing back from your red and black bets (i.e. you would lose the $200 and the $100 coupon). What I do not rember is what happens to the match play coupon in an instance where you get half back. Do you lose it or get to play it (or half of it) again? |
Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20073997)
I've had a few PMs asking about how I maximize the table match plays, it just so happens that is the post of the day on my blog so if any of you are interested or use match play coupons there are some tips here http://saverocity.com/blog/maximizing-casino-comps/
I'm new to the whole blogging thing so if you would like to leave comments about the content I would be very receptive to your feedback, how well I explained my idea of arbitrate betting the match plays for almost zero risk etc. Cheers. I also talk about my overall 'haul' in comps for 2012 which I valued at about $13K The principle is no different with Match Play. Your roulette example shows that this is roughly equivalent to just betting $100 cash on red -- if red hits, you get about $200, and if it doesn't, you get about zero. The only difference is that the casino is "giving" you that first $100 (some casinos just give you a "free bet" coupon that you don't have to match, which would be essentially the same thing). And if you are getting Match Play offers in the first place, it means you are doing plenty of other gambling, so why wimp out and try to "arbitrage" your match play offer? Just bet the Match Play on your usual game and you will leave the table, on average, with a bit more money than you would have without Match Play (or you will leave the table with no money a bit later than you would have without Match Play). What's more, your roulette example shows you taking away $50 on red and $50 on black if 0/00 hits ... but you are really losing $150 on red, since you also lost the value of the match play. So that really sucks. Even if you fancy yourself a card counter or have some other system which you imagine improves your odds (most likely it does not), just use the Match Plays when the count is in your favor/your "system" tells you that a red is "due" on the roulette wheel/the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars. See www.wizardofodds.com for a lot more on these types of things. He has a specific article to address the point that taking counter-balancing bets always loses in the end, but I can't find it just now. That said, in theory there are "better" and "worse" ways to use Match Plays. See here: http://www.beyondcounting.com/pdfs/b...ouponsbjfo.pdf . However, most of these depend on using a Match Play for a non-even-money bet, so they don't work at the Borgata. In addition this article assumes that your coupon has lots of nasty restrictions on it (lost in case of a push, just pays even money if you get a natural in Blackjack rather than the full 3:2, can't be doubled or split in Blackjack, etc.) and in my experience Borgata is better than that -- they are as generous as you could expect them to be (ticket is kept to use again if you push, pays out fully in all Blackjack cases), so some bits of advice in that article do not apply. (That said, I am not actually sure what Borgata does about the half-back rule when a Match Play is involved. If they take half your cash and the entire coupon, then it is a terrible use of the Match Play. If they take half your cash and leave you the entire coupon, then it is an excellent use of the Match Play and BrooklynMatt's strategy actually does have a hugely positive expectation above and beyond any house edge since the "half back" rule is effectively a "75% back" rule. If they take all of your cash and leave you "half" in the form of the Match Play coupon, it's still pretty bad since $100 Match Play coupon is worth less than $100 cash.)
Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20078678)
Why would you play them off as $25s? Do you still get full value doing that? I watch folk picking $25 instead of the $50 or $100 option and it blows my mind. I'm getting $200 a pop now, with either $100 or $150 with them per trip, I always print out the max.
Never been to CT for gaming, do you think they would match my Black card there? I like the Borg too, but the best two restaurants for me are Knife&Fork (happy hour apps at the bar 1/2 price!!!) and Revel Amada tasting menu. |
Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20078678)
Why would you play them off as $25s? Do you still get full value doing that? I watch folk picking $25 instead of the $50 or $100 option and it blows my mind. I'm getting $200 a pop now, with either $100 or $150 with them per trip, I always print out the max.
Never been to CT for gaming, do you think they would match my Black card there? I like the Borg too, but the best two restaurants for me are Knife&Fork (happy hour apps at the bar 1/2 price!!!) and Revel Amada tasting menu.
Originally Posted by colerc
(Post 20103439)
Full value? What? If you have $200 in Match Play you can print 8x $25 coupons, 4x $50 coupons, 2x $100 coupons, or 1x $200 coupon. If you prefer to bet $25 a hand, then you can use Match Play 8 times. No difference in net end result...
Mohegan does not status match. (but they give new players who show an AC players club card $100 in free play) They will grant VIP lounge access though, based on a strong day of play. Status is much harder to obtain at Mohegan, than Borgata Black Label or Caesars Diamond; but the lounges and overall benefits are better. Of course, there is some variation. |
Originally Posted by Rookie3
(Post 20103010)
I don't play craps so I skipped that section but think you may want to revist your roulette calculation.
In your example you have the $100 coupon on red, $100 on red, $100 on black and $6 on 0/00. I'm not understanding your win calculation in outcome #1. If you hit red you win $200 and lose $106 so I think you win $94. Where is the extra $100 coming from? Also, in outcome #3, the half back is only in some places - for example on a 0-00 table in vegas you would get nothing back from your red and black bets (i.e. you would lose the $200 and the $100 coupon). What I do not rember is what happens to the match play coupon in an instance where you get half back. Do you lose it or get to play it (or half of it) again? I'm not sure what happens with the coupon to be honest, but I consider Zero a wash (though you win a token amount). For Vegas it is a different calculation, requiring more money on the zeros and reducing the value of the bet, I would definitely us it on craps there as the rules for the 12 push for Don't Pass are consistent everywhere is the same everywhere so that works regardless of any differences on the la partage rule you find in some roulette. |
Originally Posted by colerc
(Post 20103439)
So ... there are a few issues with this. First of all, all casino bets have a negative expectation (except the odds in craps). So when you put more money down on the table, you increase the amount you are expecting to give the casino. If it were possible to win by betting red, black, and 0/00 in roulette simultaneously, someone would have figured it out by now. If you do the math, you'll see that you are always losing two bets out of three, and those losses outweigh the wins on the third. (As a result, unless you have a poorly trained dealer, the casino will *always* let you place multiple bets "against" each other -- every single one of them is a winner for the house on average! There's no need to "fool" them with a second person involved.) Not true. The Casino does not like you doing this bet in the way I said as it puts the house at a massive disadvantage.
The principle is no different with Match Play. Your roulette example shows that this is roughly equivalent to just betting $100 cash on red -- if red hits, you get about $200, and if it doesn't, you get about zero. The only difference is that the casino is "giving" you that first $100 (some casinos just give you a "free bet" coupon that you don't have to match, which would be essentially the same thing). And if you are getting Match Play offers in the first place, it means you are doing plenty of other gambling, so why wimp out and try to "arbitrage" your match play offer? Just bet the Match Play on your usual game and you will leave the table, on average, with a bit more money than you would have without Match Play (or you will leave the table with no money a bit later than you would have without Match Play). It isn't wimping out, it is finding and explaining a loophole that allows you to bet almost risk free in the casino. What's more, your roulette example shows you taking away $50 on red and $50 on black if 0/00 hits ... but you are really losing $150 on red, since you also lost the value of the match play. So that really sucks. No, you are making the error of assigning a cash value to a match play coupon. It has no value until it wins. Well, perhaps it has some value... as potential, but it isn't its face value Even if you fancy yourself a card counter or have some other system which you imagine improves your odds (most likely it does not), just use the Match Plays when the count is in your favor/your "system" tells you that a red is "due" on the roulette wheel/the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars. You are suggesting that it is better to learn to card count and use it on a positive count? Firstly, card counting is not easy, secondly it is illegal in many casinos (though not in AC) but if they spot you for a counter I am pretty sure they won't be giving you any more Matchplays :) Thirdly, and most importantly, the odds of winning with a positive count are still lower than winning by arbitraging this bet. See www.wizardofodds.com for a lot more on these types of things. He has a specific article to address the point that taking counter-balancing bets always loses in the end, but I can't find it just now. Counter balancing bets alone will always lose due to house edge I agree, but the house edge didn't include the concept of matchplay coupons so they have exploits like this. That said, in theory there are "better" and "worse" ways to use Match Plays. See here: http://www.beyondcounting.com/pdfs/b...ouponsbjfo.pdf . However, most of these depend on using a Match Play for a non-even-money bet, so they don't work at the Borgata. In addition this article assumes that your coupon has lots of nasty restrictions on it (lost in case of a push, just pays even money if you get a natural in Blackjack rather than the full 3:2, can't be doubled or split in Blackjack, etc.) and in my experience Borgata is better than that -- they are as generous as you could expect them to be (ticket is kept to use again if you push, pays out fully in all Blackjack cases), so some bits of advice in that article do not apply. (That said, I am not actually sure what Borgata does about the half-back rule when a Match Play is involved. If they take half your cash and the entire coupon, then it is a terrible use of the Match Play. If they take half your cash and leave you the entire coupon, then it is an excellent use of the Match Play and BrooklynMatt's strategy actually does have a hugely positive expectation above and beyond any house edge since the "half back" rule is effectively a "75% back" rule. If they take all of your cash and leave you "half" in the form of the Match Play coupon, it's still pretty bad since $100 Match Play coupon is worth less than $100 cash.) I'm not sure about the Match play either in this case Full value? What? If you have $200 in Match Play you can print 8x $25 coupons, 4x $50 coupons, 2x $100 coupons, or 1x $200 coupon. If you prefer to bet $25 a hand, then you can use Match Play 8 times. No difference in net end result... |
Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 20104142)
$25s lower the variance. Playing 8 individual bets of $25, is lower variance than two bets of $100. The house edge, remains the same, for both bets. In the very long run, they are exactly the same.
Mohegan does not status match. (but they give new players who show an AC players club card $100 in free play) They will grant VIP lounge access though, based on a strong day of play. Status is much harder to obtain at Mohegan, than Borgata Black Label or Caesars Diamond; but the lounges and overall benefits are better. Of course, there is some variation. |
As for the match play coupons at borgata, if you have higher amounts available they let you choose lower increments of the full amount available (i.e. 200 would be 4 $50 coupons), which I usually do because of the way I use them. I'm going to be at the table for a while anyway so I use them in a way that complements my other bets.
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Originally Posted by Rookie3
(Post 20110063)
As for the match play coupons at borgata, if you have higher amounts available they let you choose lower increments of the full amount available (i.e. 200 would be 4 $50 coupons), which I usually do because of the way I use them. I'm going to be at the table for a while anyway so I use them in a way that complements my other bets.
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Comp question
I just got back from a trip to the Borgata this weekend. My roommate was supposed to get our table and bottle service in Mur.Mur comped. I put it on my card in my dumb drunk state of mind because he was still at the tables and we didn't want to wait for him. He says they are going to comp it and the money should go back on my card in a week or two but we used my card for the reservation under his name. Any one have any insight whether this is correct or is he full of it? His table time was probably over 12 hours in 2 days and average hand was around 400 or higher. He lost over 14k so I don't see why they wouldn't comp it but he is not the most trust worthy guy and I don't want to get stuck footing the whole bill.
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Originally Posted by Kenrafprod
(Post 20186937)
I just got back from a trip to the Borgata this weekend. My roommate was supposed to get our table and bottle service in Mur.Mur comped. I put it on my card in my dumb drunk state of mind because he was still at the tables and we didn't want to wait for him. He says they are going to comp it and the money should go back on my card in a week or two but we used my card for the reservation under his name. Any one have any insight whether this is correct or is he full of it? His table time was probably over 12 hours in 2 days and average hand was around 400 or higher. He lost over 14k so I don't see why they wouldn't comp it but he is not the most trust worthy guy and I don't want to get stuck footing the whole bill.
Look at it like this, say that play was worth $400 in comp dollars (enough to cover the bottles unless you went a little wild) he now has the choice to use it pay that off, or spend it on anything he wants next time he is in town. They could put it back on your card, it happened to me in Vegas with my $1500 charge that they put on my card and called the Host and straightened it out, but it was my comp vs my card as opposed to your card and his comp. Just take the casino out of the equation and say: My mate made me put X on my card and promised to pay me back next week, but he is sketchy, do you think he will? A good mate will cover the charge if the casino doesn't right? |
Originally Posted by Kenrafprod
(Post 20186937)
I just got back from a trip to the Borgata this weekend. My roommate was supposed to get our table and bottle service in Mur.Mur comped. I put it on my card in my dumb drunk state of mind because he was still at the tables and we didn't want to wait for him. He says they are going to comp it and the money should go back on my card in a week or two but we used my card for the reservation under his name. Any one have any insight whether this is correct or is he full of it? His table time was probably over 12 hours in 2 days and average hand was around 400 or higher. He lost over 14k so I don't see why they wouldn't comp it but he is not the most trust worthy guy and I don't want to get stuck footing the whole bill.
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Originally Posted by Kenrafprod
(Post 20186937)
I just got back from a trip to the Borgata this weekend. My roommate was supposed to get our table and bottle service in Mur.Mur comped. I put it on my card in my dumb drunk state of mind because he was still at the tables and we didn't want to wait for him. He says they are going to comp it and the money should go back on my card in a week or two but we used my card for the reservation under his name. Any one have any insight whether this is correct or is he full of it? His table time was probably over 12 hours in 2 days and average hand was around 400 or higher. He lost over 14k so I don't see why they wouldn't comp it but he is not the most trust worthy guy and I don't want to get stuck footing the whole bill.
With that being said, if the authorization is still on your card; but the charge hasn't been settled perhaps he got it covered. In this case the authorization will just drop off. Borgata hosts are very good, in my opinion. They take care of what they promise to take care of (at the end of your trip) very quickly. They also keep their word. His play should have also gotten him a bunch of points (comp $); but of course the combination of play and loss should get him (the player) some extra discretionary comps. But, as anyone will tell you, you always charge back to the room folio; and then settle (discuss/beg/argue) for items to be picked up (by your host) at the end of your trip. |
Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
(Post 20109185)
Not true. The Casino does not like you doing this bet in the way I said as it puts the house at a massive disadvantage.
As a side note, I noticed in your comments you complained that the win/loss should not reflect tips for the dealer. That is wrong. A played tip for the dealer is a win for you; you are playing that tip, not the dealer. So pay your taxes right - and if you don't, just know that defense won't work if you get audited by the IRS. :)
Originally Posted by Kenrafprod
(Post 20186937)
I just got back from a trip to the Borgata this weekend. My roommate was supposed to get our table and bottle service in Mur.Mur comped. I put it on my card in my dumb drunk state of mind because he was still at the tables and we didn't want to wait for him. He says they are going to comp it and the money should go back on my card in a week or two but we used my card for the reservation under his name. Any one have any insight whether this is correct or is he full of it? His table time was probably over 12 hours in 2 days and average hand was around 400 or higher. He lost over 14k so I don't see why they wouldn't comp it but he is not the most trust worthy guy and I don't want to get stuck footing the whole bill.
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