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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244641)
Based on a couple rulings in 'mistake fare' category I've seen, I have plenty of doubt.
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Originally Posted by JetAway
(Post 29244792)
Citations?
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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244641)
You sure it's not in the from of a palm reader final exam? Seems like some of the facts stated could only be sourced to a crystal ball, and the others are simply wrong (or 'altered for dramatic effect').
Based on a couple rulings in 'mistake fare' category I've seen, I have plenty of doubt. I actually acknowledged that some of the facts were altered to make it fit into a meaningful hypo. The underlying legal doctrines are all the same. Of course there are unresolved factual questions. Or facts that Matthew will characterize differently than others. But the goal is to identify the relevant legal issues. |
Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244817)
2YN75483 is the highest profile without any sort of an NDA that I know of.
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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244200)
How exactly did you deduct that?
So in other words, had this "opportunity" (for lack of a better word) not popped up, he wouldn't otherwise be flying this LX F flight. Yet now he is claiming that this was his only viable option for the Germany-US return flight. |
Originally Posted by ckx2
(Post 29242657)
He actually bought First class tickets on his own, to pursue compensatory damages lol.
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Originally Posted by Adam1222
(Post 29244844)
I actually acknowledged that some of the facts were altered to make it fit into a meaningful hypo. The underlying legal doctrines are all the same. Of course there are unresolved factual questions. Or facts that Matthew will characterize differently than others. But the goal is to identify the relevant legal issues.
Originally Posted by Adam1222
(Post 29244857)
A court ruling doesn't have a NDA. That would violate the first amendment.
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29244858)
So in other words, had this "opportunity" (for lack of a better word) not popped up, he wouldn't otherwise be flying this LX F flight.
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29244858)
Yet now he is claiming that this was his only viable option for the Germany-US return flight.
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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244817)
2YN75483 is the highest profile without any sort of an NDA that I know of.
An NDA would only be in a Settlement and, given the loquacious nature of this blogger, I doubt it would last long. Appropriate forum is a key starting point here as is the relevance of spending thousands of $$ on a First Class ticket for a family of three when there are obviously much cheaper yet comfortable alternative means of getting from point A to point B. Arguing that you needed a 3 suitcase luggage allowance as opposed to 2 won't cut it. Much cheaper to just spend the $$ for excess baggage. I imagine Aeroplan's lawyers are getting a huge chuckle out of this. |
Originally Posted by JetAway
(Post 29244985)
Seriously-a British 2013 County Court Case? How about a U.S. or Canadian citation?
Was it not ruled by a judge? Also, was it not ruled against the parent company of LX?
Originally Posted by JetAway
(Post 29244985)
Appropriate forum is a key starting point here as is the relevance of spending thousands of $$ on a First Class ticket for a family of three when there are obviously much cheaper yet comfortable alternative means of getting from point A to point B. Arguing that you needed a 3 suitcase luggage allowance as opposed to 2 won't cut it. Much cheaper to just spend the $$ for excess baggage.
I imagine Aeroplan's lawyers are getting a huge chuckle out of this. |
Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29245039)
Would you like fries with that?
Was it not ruled by a judge? Also, was it not ruled against the parent company of LX? I'd get a huge chuckle seeing Aeroplan or LX lawyers argue their products and services can be bought cheaper or easily substituted. |
Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244941)
I think approaching this from the other side of the dispute would be far more interesting (since Matt will probably blog about this, and I doubt LX will plead their cases publicly).
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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29244941)
So to book an award you have to demonstrate that you'd otherwise buy a ticket? I take he intended to travel on this route (or close enough) and the availability made him commit to it. By the time the dust settled, other options may not have been on the table, so why does he have to settle for less? You are missing the purpose of those claims. Originally Posted by Adam1222 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif Lol. Buying a ticket to manufacture damages when you had no intention of traveling until you tried to take advantage of what you knew to be a mistake. Probably a good thing he isn't a member of a bar, as this sort of conduct would cause trouble with the disciplinary authorities. I'm not missing the purpose of asserting that his only option to return home was on LX F, just expressing my opinion that it's a ridiculous statement to make. |
Originally Posted by Adam1222
(Post 29245404)
Have you ever read an antitrust pleading? They do all the time.
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29246713)
...with the blogger's statements that show why he wasn't intending to fly LX F until the mistake availability arose...nothing more than that. Not sure why you're putting other words in my mouth.
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 29246713)
I'm not missing the purpose of asserting that his only option to return home was on LX F, just expressing my opinion that it's a ridiculous statement to make.
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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29248209)
I have never read (or heard) an antitrust pleading where the airline in question depreciates their first class product. As it would make quite an entertaining material in my opinion, please do share if you have an example.
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Originally Posted by Lack
(Post 29248209)
Is it? Even though they may not apply to his case, the European laws that LX theoretically should follow require recommendation in comparable conditions so I don't find that ridiculous.
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