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chrissxb Jul 23, 2008 2:08 am

I ask Randy to make a statement in this thread by sending him the link. I guess the best is if he enters in the dialog.

as for Europe forum, my definition is: continental europe without countries or areas having a specific forum (Scandinavia, Germany, France, UK & Ireland, Russia...) As for Turkey as long as questions are about Istanbul, they're ok in europe forum, the rest is middle east or asia.

regards,

chrissxb
moderator
europe forum

JOUY31 Jul 23, 2008 2:22 am


Originally Posted by Romelle (Post 10075417)
My vote FWIW is for the description to be VERY short - max two lines - so it doesn't further lengthen the page. "The World" first page is a whole lot longer now than it was pre-descriptions. It was a little over a page, then broke two, and now is heading for spilling over onto a 4th page.

Romelle

Yes, the description of the France forum is a good example of a short title.

MichaelCharlie Jul 23, 2008 5:19 am


Originally Posted by MichaelCharlie (Post 10008155)
Questions about the legendary cultural capitals of Europe, from the vineyards and chateaux of the Loire Valley, the lovely villages of Oxford and Stratford-upon-Avon, the hill towns of Tuscany, and the spectacular scenery of the Alps – FlyerTalkers have been there, done that and live there with advice for all. If you have ever thought about climbing the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy, floating down the Danube River in Austria, or run with (or away from) the bulls in Spain, then these and many other threads await you.

Why are the bolded phrases in the 'Europe' description? Shouldn't posts about those topics be under the 'France', 'Italy' or 'UK and Ireland' sections? :confused:

I wasn't really knocking the text of the description, I was only concerned about people posting under the wrong threads.

Randy Petersen Jul 23, 2008 10:00 am

Thanks for the invite to update you all with this.

Back in March this year, the TalkBoard was looking for something to do and noticed that the various forum descriptions were incomplete. I noted to them that it was something i had started many years ago and got carried away trying to build FT that i forgot to finish them. They decided they would form a small committee and do it themselves. In May they noted that they weren't having much luck completing the descriptions given the limited input from members, etc. So at that point, I said - no worries - i'd jump back in and finish them. So on and off over the past 2 months, I've completed about 80% of what we needed - with the usual interruptions of biz, travel and biz travel!

Anyway, I fully appreciate your comments here and can assure you that it is still incomplete. What i had been doing is simply creating buckets of descriptions and then later planning on coming back to edit them down and certainly assign them to their best locations. In fact, here is my direct quote that i posted in the TalkBoard private forum on July 9th:
"we're certainly closer to the end than the beginning. my plan is to finish them all up shortly and then go back and re-edit them. Will try and balance them all for length and description at that point."

So, i think you can see from this that i am well aware that they are wordy, but again, that was my plan to come back and edit, etc. And as you can see my plan was also to balance them all so that none were that much longer than the others. You can easily identify what the final descriptions would look like by examining my earlier ones that i did complete, such as Cuba, France, Hong Kong, India and Japan.

Hope this answers where this project is and the history behind it.

A good day to you in all parts of the world.

LapLap Jul 23, 2008 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by Randy Petersen (Post 10084470)
You can easily identify what the final descriptions would look like by examining my earlier ones that i did complete, such as Cuba, France, Hong Kong, India and Japan.

Errr... yes,

Here's an earlier thread saying we wish you'd change the part in the Japan Forum description advising FTers to 'gift the kimono'
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479937

And a thread I felt compelled to start for anyone who was ready to take this as a genuine 'tip':
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=755355

Much easier to 'gift the Maneki Neko.

Aviatrix Aug 5, 2008 2:55 pm

Randy, any news on when this EMBARRASSING forum description is going to be replaced by something that is less embarrassing? Seeing Oxford and Stratford described as a "village" makes me cringe each time I look at the Europe forum... and as others have pointed out these two towns don't belong here in any event as there is a separate UK forum.

Even if you haven't yet finalised the final version, I really think these embarrassing mistakes should be corrected sooner rather than later.

David-A Oct 6, 2008 7:51 am

Further to Aviatrix's post TWO MONTHS AGO the section description remains utterly cringe-making.

Please change it - for the good of us who actually live in Europe!

bcmatt Dec 15, 2008 4:32 pm

Any plans yet to do anything about this? I mean not only is it a) a confusing description of what the thread covers, which only leads to posts being moved but b) it is inaccurate in the first place, as others have noted! How many more months will it take? I mean I know TPTB have been preoccupied opening OMNI to all and sundry, but still... :p

David-A Mar 24, 2009 11:40 am

Another YEAR and 3 months.

Can we please change this, it still bugs me every time I notice it!

Christopher Mar 24, 2009 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by MichaelCharlie (Post 10008155)
Questions about the legendary cultural capitals of Europe, from the vineyards and chateaux of the Loire Valley, the lovely villages of Oxford and Stratford-upon-Avon, the hill towns of Tuscany, and the spectacular scenery of the Alps – FlyerTalkers have been there, done that and live there with advice for all. If you have ever thought about climbing the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy, floating down the Danube River in Austria, or run with (or away from) the bulls in Spain, then these and many other threads await you.

Why are the bolded phrases in the 'Europe' description? Shouldn't posts about those topics be under the 'France', 'Italy' or 'UK and Ireland' sections? :confused:

It's poor grammar in places, and neither Oxford nor Stratford-upon-Avon is a village: Oxford is a city (officially) and Stratford is a town.

ajax Mar 24, 2009 2:49 pm

It does rather confuse me why locations in France, Italy and the United Kingdom are mentioned, when there are separate forums for each of these countries.

I guess that it could be because people who are traveling in more than one European country, regardless of whether any has its own forum, should post here.

But I still think it's rather misleading.

David-A Jul 29, 2010 7:00 am

Another YEAR and 4 months, just spotted this again - and it still bugs me!

Can someone please fix it?

[It would be better even if it simply said "For discussion of pan-european matters, and in relation to countries without their own dedicated section."]

Aviatrix Aug 4, 2010 1:02 am

David-A, your suggested text is spot on!

Moderators, how about it?

Flying Lawyer Aug 4, 2010 7:05 am

If the current description shall be a description for Europe I feel clearly discriminated:

Loire Valley in France
Bulls in Spain
Oxford and Stratford-upon-Avon in the UK
Tuscany and Pisa in Italy
Danube River in Austria,

Four of the six big European countries mentioned, Italy is mentioned twice and two are missing: Poland and Germany are not mentioned at all :D Nobody is really aware why Austria is there:D.

chrissxb Aug 4, 2010 10:54 am


Originally Posted by Aviatrix (Post 14419149)
David-A, your suggested text is spot on!

Moderators, how about it?

thanks for bringing this up ^

if everyone likes that text, I'll forward it to the admins. do we agree on this text, flying lawyer wanted some modifications ...
maybe exclude the countries having a own forum like france, germany or italy? or have them included?


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