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Nikmehta Feb 5, 2007 6:23 am

Round The World: Help!!
 
My fiancee and I are currently on a posting in Uganda and we are due to leave in July to return back to London. we would like to do a rtw trip but we need your help.

We would like to visit Perth, Brisbane, Tokyo, Vancouver and New York.

Should we start our trip in Entebbe and fly EBB-DXB-PER-BNE-TYO-YVR-JFK-LHR-DXB-EBB? Is this possible with EK/UA?

Or should we start/end our journey in Mumbai or Bangkok? We have enough Flying blue miles to get to BOM or BKK if the rest of the trip would be significantly cheaper.

We would like to fly business on this route - is EK/UA the best value? I know that this trip could be done with World Perks. Any idea of the cost?

Many thanks for your help.

Nik

AndyFlyer Feb 5, 2007 6:29 am


Originally Posted by Nikmehta (Post 7161644)
My fiancee and I are currently on a posting in Uganda and we are due to leave in July to return back to London. we would like to do a rtw trip but we need your help.

We would like to visit Perth, Brisbane, Tokyo, Vancouver and New York.

Should we start our trip in Entebbe and fly EBB-DXB-PER-BNE-TYO-YVR-JFK-LHR-DXB-EBB? Is this possible with EK/UA?

Or should we start/end our journey in Mumbai or Bangkok? We have enough Flying blue miles to get to BOM or BKK if the rest of the trip would be significantly cheaper.

We would like to fly business on this route - is EK/UA the best value? I know that this trip could be done with World Perks. Any idea of the cost?

Many thanks for your help.

Nik

Sounds like a great trip, but you can't do this routing. EBB-DXB-PER is fine on EK, then you would have to make your own way to BNE and then down to SYD to pick up UA up to LAX or SFO and onewards to YVR. Then something like YVR-IAD (perhaps via ORD) and on to LON (UA dropped JFK-LHR late last year), before picking up EK again. TYO is out of your itinerary as you would be backtracking. An ALT would be

EBB-DXB-BKK (stop) - your own paid or mileage sidetrip to Oz - then BKK-TYO on UA, TYO-SFO-YVR-NYC-IAD-LHR on UA, then LHR-DXB with EK. Cheaper fare as it is North Pacific RTW.

Hope this helps.

jarino Feb 5, 2007 7:34 pm

Welcome to FT, Nikmehta!

There is no price posted for the UA/EK-RTW ex EBB. You may still start it there, but the price ex USA would apply.
You might be better off with the "18 airlines-RTW" which you call "worldperks", though domestic flights in Australia are not possible.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=600876

Prices ex EBB in business:
30K miles: 5996 EUR
35K miles: 6847 EUR
40K miles: 8062 EUR

Another possibility is oneworld with a DONE4 for 5402 EUR or DONE5 for 5865 ex EBB. This one would allow PER-BNE. You could ask in the oneworld forum for routing assistance.

Ex BKK most RTW are quite low. Ex BOM you'd have to add the new business/first class tax.

sh1982 Feb 7, 2007 4:32 am


Originally Posted by AndyFlyer (Post 7161662)
Sounds like a great trip, but you can't do this routing. EBB-DXB-PER is fine on EK, then you would have to make your own way to BNE and then down to SYD to pick up UA up to LAX or SFO and onewards to YVR. Then something like YVR-IAD (perhaps via ORD) and on to LON (UA dropped JFK-LHR late last year), before picking up EK again. TYO is out of your itinerary as you would be backtracking. An ALT would be

EBB-DXB-BKK (stop) - your own paid or mileage sidetrip to Oz - then BKK-TYO on UA, TYO-SFO-YVR-NYC-IAD-LHR on UA, then LHR-DXB with EK. Cheaper fare as it is North Pacific RTW.

Hope this helps.

Well if he does Japan before Oz it can be done EBB-DXB-KIX(overland)TYO-SIN-BNE-(buy seperate BNE-PER-SYD)SYD-LAX-YVR-ORD-LHR-DXB-EBB

If you would take the other worldperks rtw you can take a more direct route:

EBB-JNB-PER-(seperate ticket)BNE-KUL-NRT-PDX/SEA-YVR-AMS-LHR-DXB-EBB

jarino Feb 7, 2007 5:48 am


Originally Posted by sh1982 (Post 7174123)
Well if he does Japan before Oz it can be done EBB-DXB-KIX(overland)TYO-SIN-BNE-(buy seperate BNE-PER-SYD)SYD-LAX-YVR-ORD-LHR-DXB-EBB

TYO-SIN-BNE = BACKTRACKING

DXB-HKG (seperate HKG-TYO-HKG)-SIN-BNE could be possible.

Nikmehta Feb 7, 2007 6:40 am

Olavi Travel in Bangkok reckons the following is possible:

1. EK 387 C 07JUL BKKDXB HK1 0315 0620
2. EK 424 C 07JUL DXBPER HK1 1005 #0055
3. EK 433 C 23JUL BNESIN HK1 2005 #0150
4. UA 804 C 24JUL SINNRT HK1 0710 1510
5. UA 838 C 31JUL NRTSFO HK1 1605 0918
6. UA 1116 M 31JUL SFOYVR HK1 1100 1314
7. UA 8100 M 06AUG YVRJFK HK1 1435 2300
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA
8. UA 7318 M 10AUG JFKIAD HK1 1900 2041
9. UA 924 C 10AUG IADLHR HK1 2147 #1000
10. EK 12 C 14DEC LGWDXB HK1 1000 2045
11. EK 6200 C 14DEC DXBBKK HK1 2300 #0810

Total: THB 130,000

But I didn't think that you could visit NRT and Australia on the same trip. Also, would this trip be just as cheap from/to Dubai?

Sh1982: would the worldperks ticket be cheaper ex CAI, JNB, BOM or BKK? I could easily get a single to these destinations from Enetbbe.

Thanks guys

sh1982 Feb 7, 2007 9:30 am


Originally Posted by Nikmehta (Post 7174476)
Olavi Travel in Bangkok reckons the following is possible:

But I didn't think that you could visit NRT and Australia on the same trip. Also, would this trip be just as cheap from/to Dubai?

Sh1982: would the worldperks ticket be cheaper ex CAI, JNB, BOM or BKK? I could easily get a single to these destinations from Enetbbe.

Thanks guys

You can always try to get he route ticked but i doubt they gonna allow but you never know sometimes you get lucky and get someone less exprianced with a rtw.For the prices for the worldperks i got BKK about 4500Euro and BOM 3900EUR but i am not sure if that price is still right since it is from last year, i dont know about the prices ex CAI or JNB but i heard they are not that compative anymore from CAI.
By the way if you would strat ex BKK or BOM you would have the same problem with doing Australia before Japan, there is one option if you wannna do it the way you want and this a skyteam RTW ex bkk they allow backtracking for Australia because they only have on airline flying there KE so the route would be something of BKK-ICN-BNE(roundtrip to PER)BNE-ICN-NRT-MSP-YVR-AMS-LHR-CDG-BKK or something like that the price is about the same as the worldperks ticket.

jarino Feb 7, 2007 10:38 am


Originally Posted by Nikmehta (Post 7174476)
Olavi Travel in Bangkok reckons the following is possible:

1. EK 387 C 07JUL BKKDXB HK1 0315 0620
2. EK 424 C 07JUL DXBPER HK1 1005 #0055
3. EK 433 C 23JUL BNESIN HK1 2005 #0150
4. UA 804 C 24JUL SINNRT HK1 0710 1510
5. UA 838 C 31JUL NRTSFO HK1 1605 0918
6. UA 1116 M 31JUL SFOYVR HK1 1100 1314
7. UA 8100 M 06AUG YVRJFK HK1 1435 2300
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA
8. UA 7318 M 10AUG JFKIAD HK1 1900 2041
9. UA 924 C 10AUG IADLHR HK1 2147 #1000
10. EK 12 C 14DEC LGWDXB HK1 1000 2045
11. EK 6200 C 14DEC DXBBKK HK1 2300 #0810

Total: THB 130,000

Good luck with ticketing, this itin contains at least 3-4 violations of the rules, if you get it ticketed be careful with any reissue...

You can find all RTW prices from all starting points worldwide on www.expertflyer.com, they offer trial subscriptions.

Nikmehta Feb 8, 2007 12:11 pm

Okay, we've decided to give Tokyo a miss. Can anyone tell me if the following is possible on CRWEKUAS:

CAI-DXB-SIN-PER=BNE=SYD-SFO-YVR-JFK-LHR-CAI

It seems to be available at US$ 2779. Should I book with emirates in cairo or with a travel agent? Any recommendations?

Thanks again

jarino Feb 8, 2007 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by Nikmehta (Post 7183993)
Okay, we've decided to give Tokyo a miss. Can anyone tell me if the following is possible on CRWEKUAS:

CAI-DXB-SIN-PER=BNE=SYD-SFO-YVR-JFK-LHR-CAI

1. SIN-PER is not possible as there are no EK flights, either you do DXB-PER without stop in SIN or SIN-BNE with EK. It is not sure if SIN-BNE//SYD-SFO is considered backtracking for the BNE-SYD surface leg but as it is not much backtracking, it could go through.
2. YVR-JFK nonstop is not possible because it is not served by UA. The flight you quoted before is operated by Air Canada and codeshare flights are not allowed. You could go YVR-ORD/DEN-EWR/LGA
3. JFK-LHR will be JFK-iad-LHR
4. LHR-CAI will be LHR-dxb-CAI

Nikmehta Feb 8, 2007 10:46 pm

In that case, can I assume the following is possible:

CAI-DXB-PER=SYD-HNL-ORD-BUF-IAD-JFK-IAD-LHR-DXB-CAI

Also, if UA flights do not have business class will we be accommodated in first?

Thanks

jarino Feb 9, 2007 2:13 am


Originally Posted by Nikmehta (Post 7188886)
In that case, can I assume the following is possible:

CAI-DXB-PER=SYD-HNL-ORD-BUF-IAD-JFK-IAD-LHR-DXB-CAI

Also, if UA flights do not have business class will we be accommodated in first?

Thanks


1. SYD-HNL is not possible as the UA flight is a codeshare on Air Canada. You could do SYD-SFO-HNL for a surcharge that allows backtracking in North America once.
2. Two transits in IAD are not possible as the second one will be backtracking. If you want to go to YYZ, you can go ORD-YYZ-ORD as there is an exception for this routing and two transits in ORD enroute to YYZ are ok.

In North America, you can book in First where no Business class is available.

Nikmehta Feb 9, 2007 5:27 am

Thanks Jarino. I think the following is fine, isn't it?

CAI-DXB-PER//SYD-SFO-YVR-ORD-BUF-ORD-LGA-IAD-LHR-DXB-CAI

Do you also see the fare of US$2779 on your system?

jarino Feb 9, 2007 6:43 am

Unfortunately, the exception applies only to ORD-YYZ, not any other route through ORD.
The price is showing 2779 $ in business ex CAI on SABRE as you quoted.

Nikmehta Feb 10, 2007 6:05 am

This is getting more and more diificult. Can you think of any way of making this trip work? Is there an alternative transit point between BUF and NYC or between NYC and LHR?

Alternatively, could we take a train from BUF to NYC and continue with our journey as is?


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