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GlobalExpress Jul 18, 2005 12:28 pm

New EK Destinations
 
I just read on Airliners.net that EK considers MEX as a new destination. If so, that d be a real surprise, I expected them to increase activities in the US first (e.g. LAX, ORD).
Additionally, EK seems to think about expansion to South America (Argentina, Brazil). Anyone has more detail?
Obviously, they re looking for suitable destinations for their A 340īs :)

sadiqhassan Jul 18, 2005 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by GlobalExpress
I just read on Airliners.net that EK considers MEX as a new destination. If so, that d be a real surprise, I expected them to increase activities in the US first (e.g. LAX, ORD).
Additionally, EK seems to think about expansion to South America (Argentina, Brazil). Anyone has more detail?
Obviously, they re looking for suitable destinations for their A 340īs :)

I don't think MEX would make too much sense, especially non-stop

Before the A340 was launched, they had "confirmed" that services to SFO would be launched the summer of 2004, which was delayed to 2005... but no news on it. YYZ/LAX were the next routes to be started up - with some interest, although no formal statement on ORD, and GRU also being on the top of the list IIRC. Not sure about Argentina though

With the launch of the A380's, they definately will need to start up some more destinations :D

Cheers

BEYFlyer Jul 19, 2005 1:05 am

Actually if EK goes to South America, it wouldn't surprise me at all. They fly to every other continent on earth, so why not there? It would be nice to have a direct service to that part of the world (without having to connect via Europe or the U.S.), but I know that MEA eventually stopped its service to Sao Paolo, Brazil as they didn't have the numbers. With EK, I am sure it will be a totally different ball game.

JUANMA Jul 19, 2005 3:46 am

I know someone working in the airline industry in Buenos Aires and for a few months now there are apparently rumours that EK will start flying to EZE sooner or later :)

What about more European destinations like DUB? That would be cool for the Irish who have to make so many stops to reach Australia or New Zealand.

fratboy Jul 19, 2005 6:17 am


Originally Posted by JUANMA
What about more European destinations like DUB? That would be cool for the Irish who have to make so many stops to reach Australia or New Zealand.

I know the Emirates rep for Ireland who said it's under consideration but that was two years ago. I don't really think it's very high on their list of priorities especially since the Glasgow route is doing well (the Ireland and Scotland markets being quite similar). In the meantime Gulf Air will fly DUB-BAH 3x weekly from 2nd December so it might stir up a bit of interest at EK again.

My wish-list for new EK destinations however are Tokyo (already covered by partner Sri Lankan), Taipei and either Copenhagen or Stockholm.

capetonian Jul 20, 2005 2:53 am

About two years ago EK applied for a daily nonstop flight DXB-CPT continueing to South America (I cannot recall the destination anymore). Unfortunately, the South Africa authorities did not grant EK traffic rights between DXB and CPT. As far as I know another application for this route has been lodged.

sadiqhassan Jul 30, 2005 4:13 am


Originally Posted by fratboy

My wish-list for new EK destinations however are Tokyo (already covered by partner Sri Lankan), Taipei and either Copenhagen or Stockholm.

Tokyo would be great, except for the high landing costs and the fact that KIX isn't doing fantastically or anything... just adequate (completely empty flights from now onwards and using the EK plane with the 2nd smallest capacity - the A340-500)

Not that EK has any financial limitations, of course :rolleyes:

ARN would also be a great addition :)

Other's they were considering IIRC:

Berlin, Beijing

What would be good:

More US destinations... NYC is doing great

fratboy Jul 30, 2005 4:51 am


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan

ARN would also be a great addition :)

Other's they were considering IIRC:

Berlin, Beijing

Beijing has already been confirmed for early 2006 along with Hamburg and Geneva. Berlin wouldn't be totally out of the question given EK's coverage of Germany already. ARN has TG and MH so maybe EK's arrival could shake things up a bit.

To compete with Asian carriers on the Europe-Australia routes I think Adelaide (via BKK or SIN due to smaller loads) would be a good addition.

I still think Taipei would complete their Asian network perfectly as it has virtually no European/Middle Eastern carriers other than KLM, and EVA don't serve DXB anymore.

Cyba Aug 3, 2005 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by fratboy
Beijing has already been confirmed for early 2006 along with Hamburg and Geneva.

Geneva has been postponed indefinitely and has disappeared from their flight schedules. They announced they needed the plane for another route but I cannot remember which. Hamburg starts 30 Oct with the winter season. Beijing starts 1 Feb

sadiqhassan Aug 3, 2005 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by Cyba
Geneva has been postponed indefinitely and has disappeared from their flight schedules. They announced they needed the plane for another route but I cannot remember which. Hamburg starts 30 Oct with the winter season. Beijing starts 1 Feb

Don't know if EK would be too succesful in GVA. Flights ex ZRH have the least capacity (A345) of European cities that fly to/from Dubai daily and all the flights seem to have plenty of seats, even in peak summer / winter seasons.

BEYFlyer Aug 4, 2005 4:39 am


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan
Don't know if EK would be too succesful in GVA. Flights ex ZRH have the least capacity (A345) of European cities that fly to/from Dubai daily and all the flights seem to have plenty of seats, even in peak summer / winter seasons.

MEA's flights from BEY to GVA (and back) are almost always full. But then again, those are usually on the smaller A321 with 31 seats in J and 118 in Y. Maybe with all those UN institutions in GVA, EK might have a bit more luck on that route.

jarino Mar 19, 2006 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by JUANMA
I know someone working in the airline industry in Buenos Aires and for a few months now there are apparently rumours that EK will start flying to EZE sooner or later :)

I brought this up because there is some rumour/news regarding EZE as a new destination. Would be a great enhancement to the EK/UA-RTW as well


source: http://www.abtn.co.uk/


BUENOS AIRES may well have direct flights from the Middle East by this
time next year. Emirates has made serious noises that it would like to
introduce direct services, either non-stop which would mean a 17/18
hour flight, or via South Africa with fifth freedom operations.
Negotiations are said to be going on with the SA authorities who would
appear to be concerned that a similar scenario might emerge to that of
Australia/New Zealand where Emirates are allowed to originate
passengers at both ends of the Tasman Sea crossing, much to the
concern of both Qantas and Air New Zealand.

alex1948 Mar 20, 2006 2:49 am


Originally Posted by fratboy
I still think Taipei would complete their Asian network perfectly as it has virtually no European/Middle Eastern carriers other than KLM, and EVA don't serve DXB anymore.

Re Taipei.
But what about the political considerations ? Non-Asian carriers wanting to expand services to mainland China would not wish to cause upset (to the mainland Chinese) by starting flights to Taipei.

capetonian Mar 20, 2006 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by jarino
I brought this up because there is some rumour/news regarding EZE as a new destination. Would be a great enhancement to the EK/UA-RTW as well


source: http://www.abtn.co.uk/

There we go again. Would be great if the South African authorities would actually give in and allow EK a flight DXB-CPT-EZE (plus the 3rd daily frequency to JNB that they have been asking for for years). However, I fear that SAA will block these attempts sucsessfully again.

fratboy Apr 12, 2006 9:08 am


Originally Posted by alex1948
Re Taipei.
But what about the political considerations ? Non-Asian carriers wanting to expand services to mainland China would not wish to cause upset (to the mainland Chinese) by starting flights to Taipei.

I'm not an expert on the legalities of airlines flying to TPE but I know in the past carriers have modified their name for the Taiwan market ie British Asia Airways (LHR-HKG-TPE) and Swissair Asia (ZRH-BKK-TPE). I'm sure something like this wouldn't stop EK if they thought there were opportunities. In recent weeks CI has announced resumption of the TPE-AUH route and I reckon there's room for a bit of competition.


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