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Restriction on First rewards
https://www.emirates.com/ae/english/...es-calculator/
A few less influencers? A touch less instagramming? Churners churned elsewhere? |
Fantastic move by Emirates.
Look after the status holders, and they look after the airline. |
Agree. Far too diluted of a product
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I assume the US credit card market and the ease of earning transferable miles there is a factor, alongside maintaining exclusivity. Would be nice to get some additional Platinum availability or something as the next step.
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Understandable why they've done it. I guess most people who fly enough on cash fares to earn the points to redeem will have status of some sort, so it's really only going to upset those who are paying for the flights with points accrued on credit cards.
For the UK market at least the warning signs came when Amex had to devalue the conversion to Skywards a couple of years back. |
Understandable, however I would say maybe a few weeks notice may have been considered fairer, rather than 48 hours notice if that.
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Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun
(Post 37077793)
Understandable, however I would say maybe a few weeks notice may have been considered fairer, rather than 48 hours notice if that.
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As someone who hangs out in churner circles (and as an aside has no particular interest in flying EK on points at least not since the cheap AS awards went away), it seems most churners are doing the airport upgrade path after booking J on points usually on one of the fifth freedom flights to minimize YQ). And it is not clear this change addresses that. Also if they really want to book direct they can just get one of the Barclays EK cards that give you Silver or Gold in the first year (churners going to churn and all that).
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A lot of bloggers/influencers have suddenly less topic to write about, dried up source of inspiration....
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While I have not been bothered by vloggers and "influencers" on my EK flights (maybe I'm lucky considering I'm in NY), I don't feel strongly about this change one way or another. Maybe because I pay with $ and have status...but so be it. AF restricts LP much more than this and LX has had restrictions on F for many years.
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The idea that restricting EK F awards is going to limit "influencers", social media clout posting, or people who don't behave appropriately... this is Emirates and Dubai we're talking about.
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I just booked F on GameChanger before this change kicks in.
That being said, anyone in U.S. can just grab the Barclays Emirates card and get silver status for a measly $99 AF |
Originally Posted by 36902BRF
(Post 37077931)
As someone who hangs out in churner circles (and as an aside has no particular interest in flying EK on points at least not since the cheap AS awards went away), it seems most churners are doing the airport upgrade path after booking J on points usually on one of the fifth freedom flights to minimize YQ). And it is not clear this change addresses that. Also if they really want to book direct they can just get one of the Barclays EK cards that give you Silver or Gold in the first year (churners going to churn and all that).
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Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 37078453)
The idea that restricting EK F awards is going to limit "influencers", social media clout posting, or people who don't behave appropriately... this is Emirates and Dubai we're talking about.
Restricting F achieves: - Eliminating brokered F seats once and for all (revenue protection). - Forces Americans to get the co-brand credit card if they don't already hold status (revenue stream for EK). - Turns F redemptions into a benefit of status rather than a competition against the masses. - Ratchet up the exclusivity on redemptions because EK has a large high-value-pax base in UAE and has no problems shelling out cash for F. Remember that Gold/Platinum status already requires at least one paid segment in J/F to qualify. Achieving EK status costs more than the equivalent status on any other airline, and protecting that revenue from top customers is what drives the profits. |
The interesting question will be whether QF (and AC) will be required to impose similar restrictions. If not, I presume it'd be easy enough to transfer from one of the points currencies across to QF instead of EK itself...
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Originally Posted by d00t
(Post 37078733)
It has nothing to do with keeping influencers out.
Restricting F achieves: - Eliminating brokered F seats once and for all (revenue protection). - Forces Americans to get the co-brand credit card if they don't already hold status (revenue stream for EK). - Turns F redemptions into a benefit of status rather than a competition against the masses. - Ratchet up the exclusivity on redemptions because EK has a large high-value-pax base in UAE and has no problems shelling out cash for F. Remember that Gold/Platinum status already requires at least one paid segment in J/F to qualify. Achieving EK status costs more than the equivalent status on any other airline, and protecting that revenue from top customers is what drives the profits. |
Originally Posted by MELso
(Post 37078753)
The interesting question will be whether QF (and AC) will be required to impose similar restrictions. If not, I presume it'd be easy enough to transfer from one of the points currencies across to QF instead of EK itself...
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Originally Posted by d00t
(Post 37078733)
It has nothing to do with keeping influencers out.
Restricting F achieves: - Eliminating brokered F seats once and for all (revenue protection). - Forces Americans to get the co-brand credit card if they don't already hold status (revenue stream for EK). - Turns F redemptions into a benefit of status rather than a competition against the masses. - Ratchet up the exclusivity on redemptions because EK has a large high-value-pax base in UAE and has no problems shelling out cash for F. Remember that Gold/Platinum status already requires at least one paid segment in J/F to qualify. Achieving EK status costs more than the equivalent status on any other airline, and protecting that revenue from top customers is what drives the profits. i was always wondering how their business model works - do they just use points to buy on behalf of their customers? |
I wonder if J -> F upgrades using miles will also be restricted to status holding members.
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Originally Posted by CanaryWharf
(Post 37078832)
By brokered seats do you mean those shady websites that sell J/F tickets for 40-50% discount?
i was always wondering how their business model works - do they just use points to buy on behalf of their customers? |
Originally Posted by Sandeep1
(Post 37078508)
I just booked F on GameChanger before this change kicks in.
That being said, anyone in U.S. can just grab the Barclays Emirates card and get silver status for a measly $99 AF |
Sadly, Qantas bronze members (no status) will have the same first-class access as Emirates Platinum members.
https://flighthacks.com.au/qff-acces...s-first-class/ |
Originally Posted by d00t
(Post 37078733)
Remember that Gold/Platinum status already requires at least one paid segment in J/F to qualify.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9494a35e43.jpg |
Originally Posted by CanaryWharf
(Post 37078832)
By brokered seats do you mean those shady websites that sell J/F tickets for 40-50% discount?
i was always wondering how their business model works - do they just use points to buy on behalf of their customers? The most common way is to use points from someone else to book your cheap J/F ticket. Transferring points in from Amex/Citi or similar.... into an aged account, or one where name matching won't flag anything. EK are good at cancelling tickets, so fewer get through these days, but it still happens. Stay away from these tickets. |
Originally Posted by ft101
(Post 37080315)
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Originally Posted by d00t
(Post 37080293)
Sadly, Qantas bronze members (no status) will have the same first-class access as Emirates Platinum members.
https://flighthacks.com.au/qff-acces...s-first-class/ |
If you have an F award booked, do you think they will allow changes?
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Originally Posted by A4K
(Post 37080945)
If you have an F award booked, do you think they will allow changes?
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Originally Posted by holidayflyer83
(Post 37081074)
Yes, they do. Just tried to change an existing ticket and new flights show up. So no worries.
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Originally Posted by im.daniel
(Post 37080580)
Pretty stupid isn't it. Nothing to stop us from just transferring CC points over to QF to redeem EK F.
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This doesn’t affect upgrade? It’s just annoying cos now I cannot check if there is upgrade availability from J to F…
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Originally Posted by tboons
(Post 37089690)
This doesn’t affect upgrade? It’s just annoying cos now I cannot check if there is upgrade availability from J to F…
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Originally Posted by im.daniel
(Post 37080580)
Pretty stupid isn't it. Nothing to stop us from just transferring CC points over to QF to redeem EK F.
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Looks like seats.aero has lost all visibility to F inventory. I have a bunch of EK miles that are expiring this year and was hoping to use but we're now flying blind (and have no status)
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Originally Posted by Metanoia
(Post 37090877)
Looks like seats.aero has lost all visibility to F inventory. I have a bunch of EK miles that are expiring this year and was hoping to use but we're now flying blind (and have no status)
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Anyone know if it’s possible to book an award for someone else who doesn’t have status? I have silver via the CC, but since EK often releases 1 seat at a time I’ve often had to book Mrs SEA737 in a different reservation. Wondering if that will still work (I don’t have enough miles currently to test it out)
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Originally Posted by SEA737
(Post 37098545)
Anyone know if it’s possible to book an award for someone else who doesn’t have status? I have silver via the CC, but since EK often releases 1 seat at a time I’ve often had to book Mrs SEA737 in a different reservation. Wondering if that will still work (I don’t have enough miles currently to test it out)
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It appears that with regards to the loopholes, QF have now been instructed to "close the door, a little" so the US whales have slightly more trouble fitting through ... minor amount of status now required to book via QF, as well as the usual increase in points.
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what QF status is required to access EK first now, Emir?
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Originally Posted by harpu4
(Post 37552426)
what QF status is required to access EK first now, Emir?
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