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ft101 Sep 6, 2019 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31498318)
. . . . you pay a premium which should involve the privilege of getting off first.

That is certainly not one of the factors which helps me decide how to fly. I find it quite odd that anyone would especially in the circumstances described here.

Will08 Sep 7, 2019 1:47 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 31499356)
That is certainly not one of the factors which helps me decide how to fly. I find it quite odd that anyone would especially in the circumstances described here.

Do you also ask EK to remove your priority tags off your luggage as well then? I take it you decline fast track in departures? When you fly to BKK you decline the priority lane at customs and spend an hour queuing in the normal lane instead?

Whether you are flying for leisure or business I don't think anybody enjoys queuing.

skywardhunter Sep 7, 2019 6:38 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31499886)
Do you also ask EK to remove your priority tags off your luggage as well then? I take it you decline fast track in departures? When you fly to BKK you decline the priority lane at customs and spend an hour queuing in the normal lane instead?

Whether you are flying for leisure or business I don't think anybody enjoys queuing.

Bit of a silly argument. Just because a benefit isn't critical in decision making doesn't mean it isn't enjoyed

Will08 Sep 7, 2019 9:34 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31500308)
Bit of a silly argument. Just because a benefit isn't critical in decision making doesn't mean it isn't enjoyed

I am not sure where I stated it was critical in decision making? I just dont understand all these statements people make about being embarrassed about having different treatment. If an airline provides fast track through customs and place priority on your bags then what would be 'silly' is having to try and walk past over 500 pax once you have landed in order to utilise said benefit. On my regular route it is an additional £1000 between a Y flex+ and a J saver and when I have to do this route every three weeks, every second less I have to spend in the airport the better. So yes, I expect to get off first and avoid the families and all the bottlenecks after disembarking, not because I think I am better than anyone travelling in economy but because I have paid a lot more to enjoy this perk.

Anyway back on subject, at least with having a 2 class you are going to have a relatively new J seat, decent screen (not the horrible grey one) and a plug without having to use an adaptor to charge your laptop.

m3red Sep 7, 2019 10:05 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31500728)
I am not sure where I stated it was critical in decision making? I just dont understand all these statements people make about being embarrassed about having different treatment. If an airline provides fast track through customs and place priority on your bags then what would be 'silly' is having to try and walk past over 500 pax once you have landed in order to utilise said benefit. On my regular route it is an additional £1000 between a Y flex+ and a J saver and when I have to do this route every three weeks, every second less I have to spend in the airport the better. So yes, I expect to get off first and avoid the families and all the bottlenecks after disembarking, not because I think I am better than anyone travelling in economy but because I have paid a lot more to enjoy this perk.

Anyway back on subject, at least with having a 2 class you are going to have a relatively new J seat, decent screen (not the horrible grey one) and a plug without having to use an adaptor to charge your laptop.

really annoys me after a couple of bottles of Dom and a nice bottle of red if I have to stagger down the stairs with my wife, toddler and nanny past all those pesky people in third class

Will08 Sep 7, 2019 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 31500833)


really annoys me after a couple of bottles of Dom and a nice bottle of red if I have to stagger down the stairs with my wife, toddler and nanny past all those pesky people in third class

This statement could not have been anymore Dubai even if you tried. I'm sure you drink a 'couple of bottles of dom' on flights all the time and of course a bottle a red... Not before checking which one is the most expensive on the flight so you can take a pretentious picture with it and state how delightful it is.

skywardhunter Sep 7, 2019 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31501277)
Not before checking which one is the most expensive on the flight so you can take a pretentious picture with it and state how delightful it is.

isn't that the whole point of flying F? After all who cares about the $50 wines...

simons1 Sep 7, 2019 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 31496182)
I once arrived on a 2 class A380 in DXB (from AMS) at a remote stand in a 2 class (I was in J). The UD Y cabin was full and the Y passengers had been told to remain in their seats until the J passengers had walked past them to the stairs and down to the J buses. Then there seemed to be an issue with the boarding steps and we were told to walk back along the entire upper deck (I had just sort of gotten midway the Y cabin), down the stairs behind the J galley and down boarding steps at the back of the aircraft. All this time the Y passengers were sitting there staring at the 'royalty' moving up and down 'their' cabin. I found it slightly embarrassing....

The point is to explain that there are other ways to let J off before J. :rolleyes:

Happened recently on the morning LGW flight which arrived at one on the B gates which doesn't have upstairs jetty. There was some half hearted effort to keep upstairs economy passengers in the front cabin out the way to let J disembark. It didn't work...and I didn't see anyone in J getting too stressed about the extra 2 mins delay.

DYKWIA Sep 7, 2019 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31501277)
This statement could not have been anymore Dubai even if you tried. I'm sure you drink a 'couple of bottles of dom' on flights all the time and of course a bottle a red... Not before checking which one is the most expensive on the flight so you can take a pretentious picture with it and state how delightful it is.

Unless it was this dreadful red...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0dd624a8e8.png

ft101 Sep 7, 2019 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31499886)
Do you also ask EK to remove your priority tags off your luggage as well then? I take it you decline fast track in departures? When you fly to BKK you decline the priority lane at customs and spend an hour queuing in the normal lane instead?

None of these are in any way similar to the experience described:

the Y passengers were sitting there staring at the 'royalty' moving up and down 'their' cabin.
just to enjoy the privilege of getting off first.

m3red Sep 7, 2019 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 31501277)
This statement could not have been anymore Dubai even if you tried. I'm sure you drink a 'couple of bottles of dom' on flights all the time and of course a bottle a red... Not before checking which one is the most expensive on the flight so you can take a pretentious picture with it and state how delightful it is.

I generally don’t check the prices because I usually have what’s in board at home anyway. I enjoy taking photos of what wine I drink onboard or at home on a Tuesday.


Ekflyer09 Sep 8, 2019 1:48 am

I guess what I am trying to determine is that from what I can see, going back weeks, is that ek18 MAN /DXB is a 3 class flight. However looking at seating options for my flight they are offering economy in the upper cabin.... does this mean this flight has been changed to a 2 class flight??

skywardhunter Sep 8, 2019 3:04 am


Originally Posted by Ekflyer09 (Post 31502720)
I guess what I am trying to determine is that from what I can see, going back weeks, is that ek18 MAN /DXB is a 3 class flight. However looking at seating options for my flight they are offering economy in the upper cabin.... does this mean this flight has been changed to a 2 class flight??

Yes

LongGun Sep 9, 2019 5:49 am

Like the OP. I am also booked on EK18 MAN to DXB (I think that the OP was on the inbound to MAN, in the same seat as me) on Sunday 15 September. This was originally a 3 class A380 but has now been changed to a 2 class. As a result, Emirates changed my selected seat from a window (K) seat to an outside aisle seat (J) in Business. The swap could have been worse, it could have been to a 777.

My return flight EK17 in October is still showing as a 3 class A380 on the Emirates’ seat selection map. My next booking for February on EK18 and 17 are also both currently showing as 3 class.

Just a point on the upper deck layout of the 2 class. I don’t know how many different versions there are, but whenever I have been in upper deck economy, the economy has always been split into two sections, either side of the exit door to the air bridge. Business class starts after the economy cabin to the right as you enter the aircraft. If the flight is not full, the rear economy section may be left empty, but anyone seated in that section will disembark before any business class passengers. In my experience, the forward economy section passengers will be held back. However, if there is no air bridge to the upper deck, such as ‘C’ gates (and some ‘B’ gates) at Dubai, all passengers will have to disembark via the front stairs, so business passengers will get off last.

On a brighter note, I have grabbed a window seat again as one was since released.

Will08 Sep 9, 2019 6:52 am


Originally Posted by LongGun (Post 31506046)
Like the OP. I am also booked on EK18 MAN to DXB (I think that the OP was on the inbound to MAN, in the same seat as me) on Sunday 15 September. This was originally a 3 class A380 but has now been changed to a 2 class. As a result, Emirates changed my selected seat from a window (K) seat to an outside aisle seat (J) in Business. The swap could have been worse, it could have been to a 777.

My return flight EK17 in October is still showing as a 3 class A380 on the Emirates’ seat selection map. My next booking for February on EK18 and 17 are also both currently showing as 3 class.

Just a point on the upper deck layout of the 2 class. I don’t know how many different versions there are, but whenever I have been in upper deck economy, the economy has always been split into two sections, either side of the exit door to the air bridge. Business class starts after the economy cabin to the right as you enter the aircraft. If the flight is not full, the rear economy section may be left empty, but anyone seated in that section will disembark before any business class passengers. In my experience, the forward economy section passengers will be held back. However, if there is no air bridge to the upper deck, such as ‘C’ gates (and some ‘B’ gates) at Dubai, all passengers will have to disembark via the front stairs, so business passengers will get off last.

On a brighter note, I have grabbed a window seat again as one was since released.

Yes basically just a summary of what has already been said. What is not clear is when the economy section to the right is utilised. DXB-BKK always has high Y loads and I got an op-up from Y to J despite the fact that this section was not in use.


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