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XXTSGR Aug 8, 2019 8:10 am


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 31393545)


Guess this change of water is only for the el-cheapo passengers flying in H bucket, which this thread is about. ;) :D

Only in the special H2O bucket...

Saltire74 Aug 8, 2019 8:17 am

This has been made into a stand-alone thread after being split from the main H bucket J Class Fare thread as it was detracting from the main discussion. The points were worth discussing so now been moved here.

And while we’re at it, please try and stay on topic in threads.

Thanks

S

Dave Noble Aug 8, 2019 8:50 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31393341)
You missed the context. Previously it was 500ml Voss glass bottles. Now 250ml or 330ml cans/plastic bottles

The poster stated that the perrier was now in cans rather than bottles and referred to it as cost cutting

If the still water was in 500ml glass bottles and now still water is offered in 250/330ml small plastic bottles, then take 2 bottles - what does it matter that it is plastic?

kq747 Aug 8, 2019 9:49 am


Originally Posted by Safifi (Post 31391146)
Well you appeared to be ready to offer excuses for the substandard service in my flight, so I had assumed it was fir a rebuttal purpose orchestrated by the company. Perhaps I was mistaken.
Indeed the menu didn't mention an appetizer, only one course and a dessert. That is what was served, and all on one tray together with the drink which I had expected before the tray. It was all cleared fast and in fact my drink was removed despite nit being finished with. why the hurry, when the flight had nearly 109 minutes to run!
I had flown exactly the same sector and time before, frequently. So undoubtedly there was an intentional reduction in service enacted if late. If such cost-cutting was commensurate with a reduction or levelling off of prices, or might be acceptable. But on the contrary the prices (already higher than other aurlibes) went up considerably!
I had been a loyal customer of Emirates for over 10 years, so it is sad that one recent experience will undoubtedly induce me to go elsewhere. Furthermore I reckon others will follow suit.

Can I ask what the flight number was?

aeropix Aug 8, 2019 10:28 am

This rant with its numerous spelling and grammar errors sounds like the enraged OP is banging on his keyboard with a couple of rubber mallets. Slow down and think things over! The numerous reasonable replies have gone completely unheeded and indeed seems to have enraged the OP even further. The clean up time increased from 90 minutes to landing up to 109 minutes later. Which is it? Some folks in Business class like to do some work; ie "Business" on their laptops etc, and appreciate the timely distribution and collection of the meals, so they can actually conduct the "Business" that this class of service ostensibly caters to. If you need an extra drink, just ask, however there comes a time they have to tidy up for the arrival. I strongly suspect the OP's time dilation increased with his outrage, as the standard practice is to clean up about 45 minutes before landing.

Also, in answer to one of his points, and an interesting piece of airplane trivia, the liquid beverages have to be disposed of in the toilets as any sink on the aircraft are vented directly overboard. If red wine or coffee were poured "in the sinks" they would make a brightly colored and unsightly red or black stripe on the side of the white aircraft and so disposal has to be in the toilets which collect in waste tanks that are processed on the ground.

skywardhunter Aug 8, 2019 11:17 am


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 31393831)
The poster stated that the perrier was now in cans rather than bottles and referred to it as cost cutting

If the still water was in 500ml glass bottles and now still water is offered in 250/330ml small plastic bottles, then take 2 bottles - what does it matter that it is plastic?

Yep, that's what I said as well. The sparkling and still waters were both Voss 500ml bottles before. Now they're Evian still plastic bottles and Perrier sparkling water in cans.

678flyer Aug 8, 2019 11:48 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31392813)
The VOSS bottles aren't that large. Around 500ml max.

There are 800ml glass bottles available but not easily visible. I picked up a couple in June by asking for them. I was also told they were being phased out.

Metanoia Aug 8, 2019 12:56 pm

I flew EK385 HKG-BKK (blocked at 3:15, flight time probably 2:50), and it was a single tray one-and-done service with my drink of choice delivered with the tray (or shortly before). The meal was light, with no appetizer choice. It takes a while to prep the trays, and you don't want to be clearing the cabin after top-of-descent.

Herrick Aug 9, 2019 4:52 pm

This has to be one of the least interesting threads I’ve read here, and yet I’m still reading it. No idea why-maybe dehydration

Did they have hand lotion at least?

Safifi Aug 10, 2019 6:05 am

Emirates business class in decline
 
Metanoia, your flight was probably conti u8ng on yo Dubai so the main meal service works have been on the latter leg. Whereas my flight flew to the final destination DXB-AMM. So there's no reason doe the shoddy service.

simons1 Aug 11, 2019 2:05 am


Originally Posted by ElJudioErrante (Post 31392750)
The water.. both still and sparkling before was in larger containers.. thus more convenient for those of us who drink lots of water on site .

And less convenient for those of us who don't drink lots of water on site.

You win some, you lose some.

Nothing to stop you taking two bottles or asking for one of the bigger ones they have available.

Dave Noble Aug 11, 2019 4:44 am


Originally Posted by simons1 (Post 31403022)
And less convenient for those of us who don't drink lots of water on site.

Indeed - 1 x 500 vs taking 2 x 250ml would seem likely to lead to much less wasteage

MT_Switch Aug 11, 2019 5:31 am


Originally Posted by JamesKidd (Post 31393023)
I wouldn't be surprised if this goes as well, isn't there a drive in DXB to reduce single use plastic. Also, as part of reducing carbon footprint, I wouldn't be surprised if they ditch Voss, Evian completely and opt for Masafi or other local brands.

Ironically the discontinued Voss water was stored in glass that could be recycled.

Safifi Aug 11, 2019 7:18 am

Emirates business class in decline
 
Aeropix, if you thought my post was a "rant", you evidently decided to post a rant of your Own!
Spelling and grammar mistakes apart, you understood the meaning all to well.
Moving on, the claim that passengers paying for tickets in business class are there just to tap on their notebooks is a throwback to the 80s and sheer nonsense. If you want your food tray cleared fast, that's your choice and Not to be imposed on everyone else by you or the galley crew.
My point is that standards have fallen considerably in business class service on Emirates flights, and its not worth the substantially higher cost anymore. That part is evident.

DYKWIA Aug 11, 2019 9:26 am


Originally Posted by Safifi (Post 31403576)
Aeropix, if you thought my post was a "rant", you evidently decided to post a rant of your Own!
Spelling and grammar mistakes apart, you understood the meaning all to well.
Moving on, the claim that passengers paying for tickets in business class are there just to tap on their notebooks is a throwback to the 80s and sheer nonsense. If you want your food tray cleared fast, that's your choice and Not to be imposed on everyone else by you or the galley crew.
My point is that standards have fallen considerably in business class service on Emirates flights, and its not worth the substantially higher cost anymore. That part is evident.

Based on your one bad experience...

Thousands of people fly every day on EK business. Just look at this forum, and there are very few complaints compared to other airlines.


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