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Equipment Swaps
Applies to Australia only.
Hi FT, I've just received this email: Flights between Dubai and Adelaide Effective 28 October until 30 November 2018 and also 1 February until 15 April 2019, Emirates will operate a B777-200LR on flights EK440 and EK441 between Dubai and Adelaide instead of the current B777-300ER. Flights between Dubai and Perth Effective 7 November until 30 November 2018 and also 5 February until 15 April 2019, Emirates will operate 11 flights a week between Dubai and Perth instead of our current 14 weekly flights. EK424 will continue to operate on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday only. Our A380 nonstop services, EK420 and EK421, will continue to operate daily. Flights between Singapore and Melbourne Effective 15 January 2019, Emirates will operate a B777-300ER on flights EK404 and EK405 between Singapore and Melbourne instead of our current A380 service. From 2 November 2018 until 20 November 2018, the same flights will also be served by a B777-300ER aircraft. Flights between Dubai and Sydney via Bangkok Effective 15 January 2019, the daily EK418 and EK419 Dubai-Bangkok-Sydney v.v. services will operate a B777-300ER instead of our current A380. Flights between Dubai and Sydney Effective 27 October 2018, the daily EK416 and EK417 Dubai-Sydney v.v. services will operate a B777-300ER instead of our current A380. The Emirates schedule change procedure will only apply to services that have been cancelled. I escaped the chop, but it is frustrating. Unless you're in ADL, then you can fly on the new J! |
I’m not doing 14 hours on a 777 in F with no shower to SYD. I’m changing my flights. |
You'll be paying for the pleasure I'm afraid. Change procedure (ie waiver) only applies to cancelled flights.
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Originally Posted by sydtogla
(Post 30255280)
You'll be paying for the pleasure I'm afraid. Change procedure (ie waiver) only applies to cancelled flights.
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It's a good job EK has so many new A380s on order...
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The 2 worst seats in F taken :D |
Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 30256619)
The 2 worst seats in F taken :D |
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 30255395)
It's a good job EK has so many new A380s on order...
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Originally Posted by thijsseh
(Post 30257471)
Sorry off topic but why r they bad? Close proximity to shower/ toilets? Indeed. One thing is for sure: these are not FT’ers. Or have flown in F on the EK A380 before..... |
Originally Posted by Metanoia
(Post 30257564)
I wonder if they've run out of A380 crew? I saw on that other rather complain-y pilot site that some pilots are rostered in excess of 120 hours per month. Kinda scary.
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My dad is affected by the Perth cancellation
Anyone familiar with the schedule change policy? Looking at the timings he might prefer to fly Perth-Singapore-Dubai - the timing of the direct flight leaving late/arriving early isn't ideal accomodation wise Otherwise presumably they'd be happy to accomodate the next day on the morning flight (currently he's been rebooked to the night before) |
Cheyru: well spotted! Yes, so you see I have learned, from FT as well as from personal experience. That’s life! (and the answer is: smaller suites with only 2 windows and less luggage space plus close to showers and curtain. Very much first world problems, especially after flying in Y yesterday) |
Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 30256619)
The 2 worst seats in F taken :D It is a stupid power thing. There are many who want to be in the 1st seat and create a ruckus if they do not get it. (obviously they don't know of the issues with the seat) |
Originally Posted by Metanoia
(Post 30257564)
I wonder if they've run out of A380 crew? I saw on that other rather complain-y pilot site that some pilots are rostered in excess of 120 hours per month. Kinda scary.
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Originally Posted by ukdoctor
(Post 30259426)
It is a stupid power thing.
Originally Posted by ukdoctor
(Post 30259426)
(obviously they don't know of the issues with the seat)
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Originally Posted by flying_pig
(Post 30261614)
Not necessarily. Some friends and colleagues who fly EK in F frequently still prefer to be in row 1 on the A380. They say it’s the sense of privacy of being in the first row of the cabin without seeing anyone at the back. I don’t agree but respect their preference... They couldn’t care less about the missing window or curvature of the fuselage. They smile at the obsession that some of us have about seats and planes (and probably rightly so...). Nothing to do with ego or power. |
We prefer 1A and 2A when travelling. I know about the fuselage and less window but as above there’s less visibility of other guests except when they use the bathroom or shower. I always prefer the furtherst forward facing seat for this reason. Hilarious that others can say we’ve never flown F or these birds before when I’ve probably flown more F products than some posters above. To being the thread back on topic, we changed to the 414 and were advised EK was waiving all change fees. |
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 30261634)
Eh? All F seats have closing doors, so they don't have to see anyone if they don't want. They would still see people going to the loo at the front.
Also you can get a few passengers who like to stretch their legs/ have loud conversations in the F 'bar' area instead of going to the rear J bar . Row 2 or 3 provides a good balance between passenger traffic and noise from the galley IMHO |
On all my flights, I’ve never seen anyone use the F bar... |
Originally Posted by m0hamed
(Post 30261820)
On all my flights, I’ve never seen anyone use the F bar... |
Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 30256619)
The 2 worst seats in F taken :D |
Originally Posted by extramileage
(Post 30263333)
I dunno...4A/K are pretty bad... get a lot of galley noise. Toss up!
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EK aircraft downgrade on Australian routes (a380 > 777)
Hi all,
I am booked for business class EK419/EK418 SYD-BKK-SYD. I am very disappointed to find out that my flights are operated by 777-300ER instead of a380. I have not received any email from EK in regards to the aircraft change. I have never been on EK's 777 but I think the business class product is way too different between a380 and 777's. The 2-3-2 business seats are not acceptable. Do you think I can ask for rerouting via DXB? |
Originally Posted by cdgbear
(Post 30281008)
Hi all,
I am booked for business class EK419/EK418 SYD-BKK-SYD. I am very disappointed to find out that my flights are operated by 777-300ER instead of a380. I have not received any email from EK in regards to the aircraft change. I have never been on EK's 777 but I think the business class product is way too different between a380 and 777's. The 2-3-2 business seats are not acceptable. Do you think I can ask for rerouting via DXB? |
My last flight DXB/BNE in May/June was operated by a 777. I am delighted to find that (at the moment) my next visit in December/January will be 380 all the way - unless they change it of course ........... Fingers crossed it stays that way!!
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Originally Posted by cdgbear
(Post 30281008)
I am booked for business class EK419/EK418 SYD-BKK-SYD. I am very disappointed to find out that my flights are operated by 777-300ER instead of A380.
<snip> The 2-3-2 business seats are not acceptable. Do you think I can ask for rerouting via DXB? Its a big diversion.---> Great Circle Mapper |
Diversion all the way to Dubai just to sit on A380? SYD-BKK is an 9 hour flight, going over Dubai is well over 20 hours. I would rather sit in economy than this diversion in first.
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Emailing Skywards is probably your best call here, they may issue you with some Skywards miles but probably with nothing more.
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I’ve just realise this has happened to me again. First it was 417, I moved flight and now it’s happened to 419. There’s no point in trying to fight it any more! |
Does anyone else think that this "downgrade" may lead to SYD and MEL getting the newer 77Ws with new F perhaps at some point next year ?
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Originally Posted by sydtogla
(Post 30283461)
I’ve just realise this has happened to me again. First it was 417, I moved flight and now it’s happened to 419. There’s no point in trying to fight it any more!
there's still 413 though if you feel urged to do one last fight |
Originally Posted by sydtogla
(Post 30283461)
I’ve just realise this has happened to me again. First it was 417, I moved flight and now it’s happened to 419. There’s no point in trying to fight it any more!
Originally Posted by Nizar
(Post 30283820)
Does anyone else think that this "downgrade" may lead to SYD and MEL getting the newer 77Ws with new F perhaps at some point next year ?
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Originally Posted by extramileage
(Post 30263333)
I dunno...4A/K are pretty bad... get a lot of galley noise. Toss up!
Passing traffic is the issue for me in row 1. It reduces as you go further back, and that's why I always try to book rows 2 or 3. Much better in my opinion |
EK419/418 SYD/BKK/DXB Aircraft downgrade
In the official statement, it says the aircraft swap will take place next year but my flight from BKK to SYD is operated by 777 in late November. Is his something to to with the a380 pilot shortage someone mentioned about??
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Originally Posted by m0hamed
(Post 30284558)
Weren't they both in the initial announcement.
Originally Posted by cdgbear
(Post 30286541)
In the official statement, it says the aircraft swap will take place next year but my flight from BKK to SYD is operated by 777 in late November. Is his something to to with the a380 pilot shortage someone mentioned about??
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Originally Posted by EKplat
(Post 30286154)
I agree. I was woken up several times by sudden loud noises from the galley on the one time I had to book row 4.
Passing traffic is the issue for me in row 1. It reduces as you go further back, and that's why I always try to book rows 2 or 3. Much better in my opinion Even the bathroom attendant for F passes past often to help at the back.. |
Originally Posted by ukdoctor
(Post 30288578)
Agree with avoiding row 1 or 4 on the 380 . I was in 2K a few days ago and the chap in 1K had a tough time with people walking past all the time..
Even the bathroom attendant for F passes past often to help at the back.. |
Originally Posted by sydtogla
(Post 30287275)
I don't know why its happening but the swaps have been brought forward. I don't think any route is safe at the moment!
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Originally Posted by nmc980
(Post 30288693)
Does anyone know what the current loads are like on the EK412/415 flights and the likelihood these will be swapped to the 777?
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