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skywardhunter Mar 25, 2017 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by ioto1902 (Post 28085306)
Thanks a lot Wtravel !

I didn't know that.
Moreover, it says 'minors', therefore, they don't have to be my children (too late !). They can be my grand children. Quite good for us ! ^

How would they know anyway?

whimike Mar 25, 2017 1:09 pm

As others have stated, this is not a lounge experience, rather a lounge check-in experience.

You are disappointed they didn't bend the rules. But, IMHO the ME3 never bend any rules, ever. The front-line people you interact with typically not empowered to.

ioto1902 Mar 25, 2017 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by subject2load (Post 28085345)
Or perhaps just grab a couple of random kids from the general concourse ioto ..... and guest them into the lounge.

I'm sure the parents won't mind. They might even be delighted for you to take them off their hands for an hour or so :D

Yeah right.
I'll try to find Coop and spend a few hours in the lounge, then, once on board, invite him in my suite.
We'll see if his mother will be cheerful.
I'd rather bet police will greet me at arrival.
TV ads are so full of lies.

subject2load Mar 25, 2017 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by ioto1902 (Post 28085903)
Yeah right.
I'll try to find Coop and spend a few hours in the lounge, then, once on board, invite him in my suite.
We'll see if his mother will be cheerful.
I'd rather bet police will greet me at arrival.
TV ads are so full of lies.

Surely not ....?

And there was me thinking they were 100% truthful & accurate.

I'll be watching with a whole new perspective from now on ....... :cool:

Gig103 Mar 26, 2017 12:12 am

I'm surprised that she expected special treatment. 1 guest is 1 guest. I expect to see similar threads in the Amex section now that there is a guest limit to the Centurion lounge.

NoY Mar 26, 2017 12:42 am

The rules were applied properly. End.

The whole sleepy kids/its unfair/ routine is irrelevant nonsense & a situation that you/your wife created. Pony up the cash for Business flights or the $ for the appropriate lounge access and stop whining. Simple.

enjoyingit Mar 26, 2017 1:41 pm

where is moral low ground?

moral_low_ground Mar 27, 2017 9:43 am

To be expected from someone from Hove and is more prosaic. Not a bad effort though :-)

Brussels traveller Apr 1, 2017 10:50 pm


Originally Posted by subject2load (Post 28084244)
Perhaps your wife could have negotiated a payment of half the requested $50 - on the grounds that your 3 year-old was "half-asleep" ........??



I've no doubt that the OP will not like my opinion and the reasons offered. But he did invite views from other FT-ers - and these are mine :)

No hard feelings at all! :-)

The point I was trying to make is that for a mother GC holder traveling with kids, it has now become impossible to use the lounge that she is entitled to, without forking out the money. Unlike adult guests, one can hardly 'ditch' one of the kids and use the lounge oneself.....

Brussels traveller Apr 1, 2017 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by NoY (Post 28087350)
The rules were applied properly. End.

The whole sleepy kids/its unfair/ routine is irrelevant nonsense & a situation that you/your wife created. Pony up the cash for Business flights or the $ for the appropriate lounge access and stop whining. Simple.

Thanks for the deep insight there ...

Brussels traveller Apr 1, 2017 11:00 pm


Originally Posted by whimike (Post 28085585)
As others have stated, this is not a lounge experience, rather a lounge check-in experience.

You are disappointed they didn't bend the rules. But, IMHO the ME3 never bend any rules, ever. The front-line people you interact with typically not empowered to.

Agree. it should have been titled 'Lounge check-in experience'.

The frontline people at EK use their discretion for common sense decisions many times in my experience, quite unlike the robots one finds frequently in the US. Allowing a 3-year old child in with her mother and not demand the $50 charge, could have been one such decision. Sadly, it did not happen on this occasion. Doing it was an opportunity to create a loyal fan of the airline (which she is, albeit, a bit soured now).

Brussels traveller Apr 1, 2017 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 28084908)
We all know the rules, but to follow them is ridiculous?

I think there is no complaint to be made, however I do also think there was a minor CS failing in not having the leeway here given a few months ago the child would've been allowed in free. I think an unofficial 1-year grace (i.e. under 2 is free but unofficially if asked they allow under 3) would be an appropriate policy.

^
The minor CS failing is all it is. Glad you recognise it as such.

Brussels traveller Apr 1, 2017 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by stargold (Post 28084256)
Is it Emirates' fault if your wife made the poor choice of taking exception to an entirely justified request to pay for the 3rd guest, and decided to "save $50" by sitting it out in the main gate area? I'm afraid that any supposedly "very poor taste" left by EK is entirely self-inflicted.

When asking for an exception to a rule, it's best not to do so while just assuming it iwll be granted, as you are only setting yourself up for disappointment.

In general, I agree. The point here though is the difference between a mother traveling with her little kids Vs a normal case of adult guesting. In the case of the mother, even if she is entitled to use the lounge, she cannot use this entitlement unless her kids are let in as well. Not the case with adult guests. So my point is that she has no option but to pay for lounge access she is normally entitled to anyway. This applies to a very small number of very specific cases of mother traveling with very young children and she has lounge access and they do not.

I just think it would be good customer service for an airline that is working to build a reputation as a family-friendly airline to recognise this.

tartempion Apr 2, 2017 1:47 am

I for one second the OP.
There should be leeway for sole adults travelling with small children, at the discretion of the lounge dragon, full stop.

I live in Asia and have many stories of strange rules you only discover AFTER the facts: I booked 12 ballet lessons for my 6 year youg, they printed 12 dates on a membership card, I mentioned she would not attend two dates because we would be on holiday, no problem sir, until after the last lesson where they tell you you lost two session being absent, 30 minutes of discussion will get you nowhere. I should have refused the membership card to begin with.
That's how you learn to live here.

whimike Apr 2, 2017 6:11 am


Originally Posted by Brussels traveller (Post 28117740)
Agree. it should have been titled 'Lounge check-in experience'.

The frontline people at EK use their discretion for common sense decisions many times in my experience, quite unlike the robots one finds frequently in the US. Allowing a 3-year old child in with her mother and not demand the $50 charge, could have been one such decision. Sadly, it did not happen on this occasion. Doing it was an opportunity to create a loyal fan of the airline (which she is, albeit, a bit soured now).

The part I bolded is very strange. In my quite vast experience it is the US agents that are the most flexible of any in the world and the ME3 that are the least flexible. :confused:


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