The EK strategy thread
There have been a few posts in NOIR's excellent DXB/DWC thread about the future EK strategy.
Maybe we should have a separate thread? Hopefully it won't get to the Emirates Scam thread levels... In the words of a famous FT'er... Let the speculation begin... |
Oh, and just to say, I have bugger all insight, so I'll leave it to the experts.
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Is this in response to someone stealing the wishlist thread off you again :D
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Originally Posted by eternaltransit
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Is this in response to someone stealing the wishlist thread off you again :D
Don't you know who he is? |
So, What is EK's strategy?
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I noticed anecdotally that more and more people in the US - even from here in California - are traveling overseas. The data confirms this: http://travel.trade.gov/research/monthly/departures/ - it's been over 5% annual growth since the recovery. I have friends who took their families overseas to visit Japan for Thanksgiving break (!!), preferring to meet relatives for Christmas instead.
On the other hand, it's becoming cheaper than ever to fly abroad, and as discussed elsewhere, low-cost macro environments are not a purely good thing for Emirates. Here at SFO, Emirates now has to compete against not only against the usual suspects like Etihad, but also nonstops from China and even Air India (made possible in part by the low oil prices). It seems like every market in the world has these issues, but the intensities differ, and that's where the opportunities may exist for Emirates to move quickly to make money in this environment. They've done well to launch MCO and FLL. EK's long-haul A380 product is still a very good asset and better than most of the competition, despite uncertainties in the future of that aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Xlr
(Post 27631552)
I noticed anecdotally that more and more people in the US - even from here in California - are traveling overseas. The data confirms this: http://travel.trade.gov/research/monthly/departures/ -
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Flydubai and Emirates merger?
An Emirates-flydubai merger is not the farfetched topic it was a few years ago. There would, of course, be integration matters to address: co-locating flydubai with Emirates, and moving flydubai more upmarket from its existing hybrid model (albeit one that already has inseat IFE and recliner business class seats). These are not easy, but nor are they insurmountable. flydubai effectively gives Emirates a ready made narrowbody operation. flydubai would enlarge Emirates' network; allow Emirates to grow frequency on seat constrained markets (like India) by replacing widebodies with more numerous narrowbodies; and right size regional capacity that is suffering from overcapacity because of the large use of widebodies. I imagine that if the tables were turned, and EK operated an extensive narrow-body fleet simultaneously with wide-bodies, that there would be a proposal to spin off the narrow-body fleet into a separate fleet. https://centreforaviation.com/insigh...lydubai-341033 |
Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus
(Post 28391234)
This CAPA article has an interesting proposal about the possibility of merging EK and FZ. I'm not all too convinced a merged EK and FZ would have any benefits. I think a closer operational agreement between the two airlines, specifically to reduce the overlapping between the two, would prove to be a greater strength than combining the two. Albeit, most strengths could only be achieved operating out of a single terminal.
I imagine that if the tables were turned, and EK operated an extensive narrow-body fleet simultaneously with wide-bodies, that there would be a proposal to spin off the narrow-body fleet into a separate fleet. https://centreforaviation.com/insigh...lydubai-341033 |
Originally Posted by m3red
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Amazing imagine a downgrade from EK metal to FZ metal :(
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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus
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I think the lack of DP would be enough of a reason to avoid for you m3red :D
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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus
(Post 28391234)
I'm not all too convinced a merged EK and FZ would have any benefits. I think a closer operational agreement between the two airlines, specifically to reduce the overlapping between the two, would prove to be a greater strength than combining the two.
But operating closer together, with codeshares etc, to prevent duplication might well work. I can't see how flying a B773 or even an A380 from Dubai to Muscat is going much for them. |
Two words can sum up EK strategy: Tim Clark.
I hardly see any possibility of EK and FZ merging from different bases when TC himself said that moving FZ to DWC will free more slots for EK. If by strategy we're talking 10 years and beyond, then, anything is possible. By then EK may or may not have TC on board, the aviation industry may or may not change significantly, and EK/FZ/EY/G9 may or may not find some synergy. |
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