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steveben53 Nov 13, 2016 11:13 pm

On board wifi
 
I know that you get a complimentary 10Mb of wifi - would that be enough to send a couple or three emails and maybe make a posting on facebook?

If you want to get the extra 500Mb i believe that is available for $1 - does that have to be pre booked, if not how do you pay for it ?

skywardhunter Nov 13, 2016 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by steveben53 (Post 27476690)
I know that you get a complimentary 10Mb of wifi - would that be enough to send a couple or three emails and maybe make a posting on facebook?

If you want to get the extra 500Mb i believe that is available for $1 - does that have to be pre booked, if not how do you pay for it ?

1. Yes, just

2. No, credit card in flight on the WiFi login page.

steveben53 Nov 13, 2016 11:41 pm

Thanks

I may just be wildly impetuous and invest $2

larzy1977 Nov 14, 2016 2:22 am

or use 2 different emailaccounts so you get 20mb free wifi

scotclif Nov 14, 2016 2:29 am


Originally Posted by larzy1977 (Post 27477100)
or use 2 different emailaccounts so you get 20mb free wifi

that use to work, but now it recognizes the device which you already used.

suley Nov 14, 2016 2:36 am

More then likely its based on Mac Address, use a Google Android and if you are rooted, you can simply choose to change mac address, iPhones are a little tricky.

Peadar Nov 14, 2016 2:38 am

I thought wifi was free in J?

scotclif Nov 14, 2016 2:42 am


Originally Posted by suley (Post 27477134)
More then likely its based on Mac Address, use a Google Android and if you are rooted, you can simply choose to change mac address, iPhones are a little tricky.

why not just pay a $1

i think if your flying Emirates you can afford a dollar. :rolleyes:

msm2000uk Nov 14, 2016 2:50 am

The EK wifi offer is probably the most generous of any airline that charges (wifi is free in F on the A380 for QR passengers).

$1 is minimal, and 500MB pretty good considering the speed offered - you certainly couldn't download a tv show, but for general social media and their respective Apps, it's fine.

Email works well too, but it can be a bit slow.

Also bear in mind that WiFi will not be available on the entire route - as certain countries are black out zones (Iran, Iraq, India etc).

M

skywardhunter Nov 14, 2016 3:00 am

You can bypass the free wifi offer by deleting cookies, it does not use MAC address. However on Windows you can isntall TMAC Mac address changer which is great for airport wifi (when not in lounge) and such time restricted places.

steveben53 Nov 14, 2016 5:27 am

for the sake of saving $1 I am not sure that I am worried about changing Mac addresses etc

RichardAtCT Nov 14, 2016 5:32 am

Slightly OT.

But does anyone have a troubleshooting guide for connecting to the on-board wifi. I've never actually been able to connect (iPhone 6 with whatever the latest OS at the time has been).

Specifically, I never reach the "challenge" login page that would let me activate my 10mb free or pay the $1 fee for 500Mb.

R

Saltire74 Nov 14, 2016 5:47 am


Originally Posted by RichardAtCT (Post 27477531)
Slightly OT.

But does anyone have a trioubleshooting guide for connecting to the ob-board wifi. I've never actually been able to connect (iPhone 6 with whatever the latest OS at the time has been).

Specifically, I never reach the "challenge" login page that would let me activate my 10mb free or pay the $1 fee for 500Mb.

R

I've tried a couple of times with the same so I am going to ask a stupid question that I should really know the answer to. Does the entire fleet of 77W's and A380's have wifi? And I ask because on some bookings in MMB the flight specifically shows as having wifi on others it doesn't.

S

m3red Nov 14, 2016 6:36 am


Originally Posted by msm2000uk (Post 27477181)
The EK wifi offer is probably the most generous of any airline that charges (wifi is free in F on the A380 for QR passengers).

$1 is minimal, and 500MB pretty good considering the speed offered - you certainly couldn't download a tv show, but for general social media and their respective Apps, it's fine.

Email works well too, but it can be a bit slow.

Also bear in mind that WiFi will not be available on the entire route - as certain countries are black out zones (Iran, Iraq, India etc).

M

China....(a big one that!)

Saltire74 Nov 14, 2016 6:38 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 27477693)
China....(a big one that!)

Yeahh!! I won't have to spend $1 :D

S

eternaltransit Nov 14, 2016 6:54 am


Originally Posted by RichardAtCT (Post 27477531)
Slightly OT.

But does anyone have a troubleshooting guide for connecting to the on-board wifi. I've never actually been able to connect (iPhone 6 with whatever the latest OS at the time has been).

Specifically, I never reach the "challenge" login page that would let me activate my 10mb free or pay the $1 fee for 500Mb.

R

Navigate manually to portal.inflight.onair.aero and it should take you to the landing page.

skywardhunter Nov 14, 2016 7:05 am


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27477566)
I've tried a couple of times with the same so I am going to ask a stupid question that I should really know the answer to. Does the entire fleet of 77W's and A380's have wifi? And I ask because on some bookings in MMB the flight specifically shows as having wifi on others it doesn't.

S

not all 777s

skywardhunter Nov 14, 2016 7:07 am


Originally Posted by steveben53 (Post 27477518)
for the sake of saving $1 I am not sure that I am worried about changing Mac addresses etc

I use it when I run out of the 500MB 1$ wifi (I mostly don't even get the 10MB, just skip straight to the 500MB since I'll use it anyway). but as mentioned no MAC change necessary on EK, just delete cookies.

I usually pay 1$ on my phone + 1$ on my laptop and it gets me through most of the flight.

msm2000uk Nov 14, 2016 7:07 am


Originally Posted by eternaltransit (Post 27477744)
Navigate manually to portal.inflight.onair.aero and it should take you to the landing page.

I have it as a favourite for reasons like this!

M

skywardhunter Nov 14, 2016 7:21 am


Originally Posted by eternaltransit (Post 27477744)
Navigate manually to portal.inflight.onair.aero and it should take you to the landing page.

Just onair.aero also works, or more generally (but not as reliably) any non-HTTPS website. HTTPS websites like Google won't work because the SSL protocol won't allow redirection for safety reasons. I have a news site I always use on hotspots and generally works.

Flaneurs Nov 14, 2016 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by msm2000uk (Post 27477181)
The EK wifi offer is probably the most generous of any airline that charges (wifi is free in F on the A380 for QR passengers)

M

Why can't EK follow suit and give their F passengers free Wifi also? I have always been amazed that we are asked to pay $1.00 when sitting in the suites. It is more of a pain than anything and it seems a little ridiculous to be drinking Dom and eating caviar then having to get out a credit card for the silly one dollar charge. I understand upcharging and I completely understand bandwidth being limited by forcing a charge after 10MB, however can't the few people in F just be able to log in for free?

As an aside, I have never managed to burn through the 500MB. Are you able to pay for a second round of 500MB for another $1 if you run out (while not taking advantage of the system by deleting cookies, etc.)?

steveben53 Nov 14, 2016 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27477836)
Just onair.aero also works, or more generally (but not as reliably) any non-HTTPS website. HTTPS websites like Google won't work because the SSL protocol won't allow redirection for safety reasons. I have a news site I always use on hotspots and generally works.

Is there anybody out there who can translate this into English, Do I have an SSL protocol and if so do i need to see my doctor and are there any recognisable signs

vytas315 Nov 14, 2016 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27477836)
Just onair.aero also works, or more generally (but not as reliably) any non-HTTPS website. HTTPS websites like Google won't work because the SSL protocol won't allow redirection for safety reasons. I have a news site I always use on hotspots and generally works.

Glad to see I'm not the only nerd here!

eternaltransit Nov 14, 2016 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by Flaneurs (Post 27479259)
Why can't EK follow suit and give their F passengers free Wifi also? I have always been amazed that we are asked to pay $1.00 when sitting in the suites. It is more of a pain than anything and it seems a little ridiculous to be drinking Dom and eating caviar then having to get out a credit card for the silly one dollar charge. I understand upcharging and I completely understand bandwidth being limited by forcing a charge after 10MB, however can't the few people in F just be able to log in for free?

As an aside, I have never managed to burn through the 500MB. Are you able to pay for a second round of 500MB for another $1 if you run out (while not taking advantage of the system by deleting cookies, etc.)?

Not worth the whole printing out separate wifi credentials for F imho just to save some pax a few dollars.

You don't choose or not choose EK F because of wifi.

larzy1977 Nov 14, 2016 1:01 pm

Wahaha


Originally Posted by steveben53 (Post 27479272)
Is there anybody out there who can translate this into English, Do I have an SSL protocol and if so do i need to see my doctor and are there any recognisable signs


skywardhunter Nov 14, 2016 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by Flaneurs (Post 27479259)

As an aside, I have never managed to burn through the 500MB. Are you able to pay for a second round of 500MB for another $1 if you run out (while not taking advantage of the system by deleting cookies, etc.)?

No

Flaneurs Nov 14, 2016 4:32 pm

Thanks skywardhunter. I guess I will be swapping devices if I need a workaround.

ukdoctor Nov 15, 2016 12:18 am


Originally Posted by Flaneurs (Post 27479259)
Why can't EK follow suit and give their F passengers free Wifi also? I have always been amazed that we are asked to pay $1.00 when sitting in the suites. It is more of a pain than anything and it seems a little ridiculous to be drinking Dom and eating caviar then having to get out a credit card for the silly one dollar charge. I understand upcharging and I completely understand bandwidth being limited by forcing a charge after 10MB, however can't the few people in F just be able to log in for free?

As an aside, I have never managed to burn through the 500MB. Are you able to pay for a second round of 500MB for another $1 if you run out (while not taking advantage of the system by deleting cookies, etc.)?

I suspect its EK's way of avoiding complaints about it not working .

If it doesn't work and you havent paid then they can say that its a free service not available on all flights.

If you have paid $1 and it doesn't work then the maximum they have to do is to refund you $1 . They will probably blame the 3rd party provider and also know that most people won't bother about it.

chsonu Nov 15, 2016 7:04 am

I can't believe you are concerned to pay $2 for 1GB of data. I usually Pay $15 to $20 in Etihad and BA flights.

skywardhunter Nov 15, 2016 8:34 am


Originally Posted by ukdoctor (Post 27481711)
I suspect its EK's way of avoiding complaints about it not working .

If it doesn't work and you havent paid then they can say that its a free service not available on all flights.

If you have paid $1 and it doesn't work then the maximum they have to do is to refund you $1 . They will probably blame the 3rd party provider and also know that most people won't bother about it.

They're definitely subsidising the cost of data so everyone who signs up costs EK something though they might pay per data actually used

m3red Nov 15, 2016 8:46 am


Originally Posted by chsonu (Post 27482585)
I can't believe you are concerned to pay $2 for 1GB of data. I usually Pay $15 to $20 in Etihad and BA flights.

Exactly and it's for charity - it's basically free for all which is great in my book. ^

RichardAtCT Nov 16, 2016 12:15 am


Originally Posted by eternaltransit (Post 27477744)
Navigate manually to portal.inflight.onair.aero and it should take you to the landing page.

Yes! Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.


Originally Posted by msm2000uk (Post 27477796)
I have it as a favourite for reasons like this!

M

Good idea.. Now to book a flight so I can test it out..

steveben53 Nov 20, 2016 11:20 pm


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 27477693)
China....(a big one that!)

That's a bit of a bummer since i will be on a flight from DXB to HKG and a quick look at the route shows that the majority of the flight time is spent over India and China

Well at least its a dollar saved !

weegraeme Aug 19, 2017 6:35 am

I know this is an old thread, but...

I'm travelling in J on a QF award ticket. Will that make me eligible for the free wifi? I'm not sure that I'd be able to change my QF membership number to an EK one. I don't know enough about the booking system to know if that could affect my ticket, so I don't just want to try it.

skywardhunter Aug 19, 2017 7:01 am


Originally Posted by weegraeme (Post 28709605)
I know this is an old thread, but...

I'm travelling in J on a QF award ticket. Will that make me eligible for the free wifi? I'm not sure that I'd be able to change my QF membership number to an EK one. I don't know enough about the booking system to know if that could affect my ticket, so I don't just want to try it.

You log in with your EK number on the wifi login page, I don't know if it syncs with the pax manifest to check if you're listed as being on the flight, though. Unless it does that you should be fine.

weegraeme Aug 19, 2017 7:05 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 28709669)
You log in with your EK number on the wifi login page, I don't know if it syncs with the pax manifest to check if you're listed as being on the flight, though. Unless it does that you should be fine.

Thanks. I'll try that. If I have to pay, I have to pay. But I figured it's worth trying.

Stephenk82 Aug 19, 2017 9:44 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 28709669)
I don't know if it syncs with the pax manifest to check if you're listed as being on the flight, though. Unless it does that you should be fine.

Someone I know (cough cough) may have given their login details to a friend travelling in Y recently, and it wouldn't work for them - so there must be some sort of linkage to the passenger manifest to determine if "someone I know" was on board.

I would guess unless your booking had your skywards details on it, it won't work.


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