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U.S Gateway with the lightest loads?
Anyone have an idea on what U.S. city that EK serves has the lightest loads? Especially in mid January.
I am thinking SEA would be always full as well as SFO. My guess, is DFW, ORD, or IAD might have the lightest loads that time of year. |
Originally Posted by SEA777GUY
(Post 27271424)
Anyone have an idea on what U.S. city that EK serves has the lightest loads? Especially in mid January.
I am thinking SEA would be always full as well as SFO. My guess, is DFW, ORD, or IAD might have the lightest loads that time of year. |
Originally Posted by badgersfly
(Post 27271724)
Don't know for sure, but my personal experience is DFW (at least in J), which I'm sure is why they downgraded to 777. You might want to consider MCO as well, I've never done that route, but I'm still surprised they run that route. Might be extremely full for all I know.
When I flew to DFW around this time last year there were 12 people in J |
Light loads has no place in EK dictionary.
If seats are empty cargo is full. If cargo is also empty, yields are great. Apparently DXB-SEA carries dry fruits and fruit nectar and SEA-DXB carries aircraft spare parts. Second part is questionable based on how MRO supply chain works. An aircraft part manufacturer based in Japan won't ship all parts to Boeing Seattle to get distributed, they directly go to parts depots located though out the world. I am sure there is a valid explanation. |
Originally Posted by avcritic
(Post 27273900)
Light loads has no place in EK dictionary.
If seats are empty cargo is full. If cargo is also empty, yields are great. Apparently DXB-SEA carries dry fruits and fruit nectar and SEA-DXB carries aircraft spare parts. Second part is questionable based on how MRO supply chain works. An aircraft part manufacturer based in Japan won't ship all parts to Boeing Seattle to get distributed, they directly go to parts depots located though out the world. I am sure there is a valid explanation. |
Other than it is not in King's English my answer is relevant. Once CM takes over complete charge we will know the real numbers.
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 27274135)
Thanks for that. Now, have you got anything relevant to the OP?
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Originally Posted by avcritic
(Post 27274810)
Other than it is not in King's English my answer is relevant. Once CM takes over complete charge we will know the real numbers.
You responded with some random irrelevant points about EK cargo. |
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 27275259)
No, the OP asked which EK flights would have the lightest loads in mid January,
You responded with some random irrelevant points about EK cargo. Double daily B77W on DXB-SEA without much feeder network is a perfect example of passenger planes hauling mainly cargo. Of course someone will give an anecdotal example the two days he/she traveled cabin was full. EY has much better LF than EK on DFW route. AI has much better LF on SFO route. Both have higher fares than EK. |
Thanks for your info avcritic, as I live in SEA I had no idea that EK transported any of that cargo. Interesting data point.
Last year, around the 13th of January, I took the afternoon SEA-DXB flight and it was about 80% full in Y. On the return (AM flight) it was 100% full, but with an 777-200 not a 300 like the outbound. Are the 777-200 all being retired? |
SEA777GUY, you don't need to listen to internet speculation because the US keeps detailed records of load factors, seat capacities, cargo uplift etc. etc., all available publicly from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics - you want the T-100 data.
http://www.transtats.bts.gov/Tables....Air%20Carriers The data is in csv form, so once you pull the raw data and put it into Excel, it comes up with, for Jan 2016, for all ex-USA departures, load factors of: BOS: 63.68% DFW: 62.79% IAD: 80.91% IAH: 66.70% JFK-DXB: 69.38% JFK-MXP: 58.98% LAX: 71.88% MCO: 85.94% ORD: 72.81% SEA: 60.16% SFO: 75.30% |
Interesting MCO has the highest !
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Originally Posted by Travelman64
(Post 27291769)
Interesting MCO has the highest !
That said, everyone likes Disneyland in winter - alongside the B6 connections you can made from there to the Caribbean. |
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