Changes to j class on ek
 

What would you like to see to the 777 j seat?

Surely 1 2 1 seating with proper lie flats with each seat having aisle access and dine on demand is coming?

Clearly the 380 won't change too much although there are too many seats for a really exceptional service in my view.

2-2-2 would be a big improvement on current layout.
Given the competitive pricing EK offer in J (most of the time !) I am relatively happy with the product.
They set a high bar a few years ago and all the ME airlines are now surpassing them but I am certain that EK will take it to another level in the not too distant future.
If you ever have doubts about EK try BA J class !!

I agree with m3red,

Definitely a 1-2-1 in the 777 and Dine on Demand. Also, PJ's in business class on longer flights.

Fully agree on all points, including the bit about 380 having too many J seats for exceptional service.

Yep, 2-2-2 would be good, not everyone is travelling with a companion so a wider gap in-between the seats would allow you to comfortably step over your new seat buddy should you not be travelling in two's and dont want to disturb them.

The 777 J seat is feels and looks old in terms of its design. Even if they maintained 2-3-2, I think there are several improvements they could make to the hard product to make it feel, and look, better.

I dont think 1-2-1 would work because on the 2 class versions, they can easily fill that cabin with 42 paying passengers however with less seats, less people so while it would be more comfortable, I dont think they would go for half the amount of seats, unless you can find a way to fit 42 seats into the business cabin in a 1-2-1 layout.

It might be slightly less seats but won't be much less because as you say most 777 go full in j.

Just be glad there's no more deeply declining (on the ER's at least!!)

Reviving the tread.

Besides hardware upgrades to J class seats. I hope they will also up the quality of food (mains and snacks). Would love to have some options of Japanese, Thai or Chinese food on all flights.

Foods crap in all classes weakest part if Ek bar none.

Middle seat in j is a joke too

Switch to the A380 style seat, dine on demand, update the amenity kit and provide pajamas in J.

No one needs pjs my wife's moaning about how many we have. Amenity kit is one of the best what more do you need. Got loads of those of you want some?!?

Hard product (the seat) is what needs updating! I like the j seat just not the fact I have to climb over someone on a 777. A380 is too big in j service is slow.

Just because you have too many pajamas doesn't mean no one else wants them. Qatar and Qantas provide pjs in business. Don't take them if you don't want them.

The amenity kit is very nice but an update every once in awhile is nice so that you have some variety instead of having multiples of the same one.

The A380 style seat would eliminate having to climb over anyone, wouldn't increase the number of passengers and would make seating consistent across the fleet.

Ah the perennial PJ problems rears its head on many subforums on Flyertalk :D

That is, pyjamas not private jet!

However, and I totally appreciate why one would like to have free PJs given on board because everyone likes a freebie and they are quite nice to have, but if it is such an important part of the travelling experience, why would you not bring your own? Is it not unlike passengers bringing their own noise-cancelling headsets instead of the airline-issued one?

Wouldn't the money spent on giving out frankly disposable (to the airline) pyjamas be better spent on things like investing in new hard product or catering? After all if the pyjamas cost 5 USD, that would be a significant uplift on the catering budget...!

As to the amenity kit, I agree a cosmetic refresh should be in order every so often, if only for the marketing.

PJ is a nice to have for me, but not a big deal. Better seats, food and updated amenity kit would be nice.

Some of EK's FAs have commented when I take out my LH's World Cup amenity kit, that it's very nice and unique.

Other airlines (even the crap ones) have made use of the amenity kits (even the crap ones) as good marketing/PR tools.

AA's "heritage" series of using pre-consolidation airlines is a nicely thought out product even if the contents are weak.

Things like the Tumi, Rimowa, or special edition versions create nice collectibles or reusable opportunities.

I'm sort of over the Bulgari range at this point... Someone must have thought that a 100 year deal (feels like it) was a good idea!

Probably sounds stupid, but here goes anyway. How about a "buy on board" for certain premium foods and spirits being offered in F. For example, if you would like caviar or the much better mezze platter or Blue Label or DP(?), book up to 24hrs in advance and pay for it.

Sound silly? ;)

Also, maybe a book the cook kind of concept that SQ and some other carriers have?

If I pay £3.5k for a ticket I'm not expecting surcharges!!!

Lol!!:D:D

But if flying from India, where a J class to London and back is about GBP1.2k - 1.5K :p

I got decent flight deals to Egypt and Jordan from Manchester via Dxb virca £1700

Would be great if EK updated their kits to Tumi or Rimowa.

A book the cook option would be fantastic as well.

You mean ask the crew to put your meal in the microwave!?

I agree on longer flights in J this would be good and is something I love about F.

He's referring to the SQ option (now available on other carriers) where you can pre-book a main meal from a much, much wider range of options than what is available on board e.g. ex-LHR flights you can choose from up to 18 options and ex-SIN you have 62.

http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/fl...hecooklanding/

Yes, that's a great facility offered by SQ.

The more I hear of the catering "innovations" being offered by other carriers, the more I feel that Emirates (overall still a very good carrier) are now behind the curve rather than ahead, where onboard food is concerned. On a number of recent EK flights I have been struck by the fairly limited range - and, more to the point, a certain lack of imagination or novelty - in the F class menus.

Who knows what you may or may not fancy to eat in advance?

They would not offer this for J anyway, perhaps a good idea for F as the F food isnt great.

I try to have the soup and 2 starters.

Yep, some good soups and I'm glad Emirates continue to offer them, when fewer people (I think) have interest in soup than in years past. And I gave top marks for their egg soufflé breakfast offering last month.

Really in J?

Breakfast is the worst by a mile!

I'm off to CAI in J and will be eating in the lounge and drinking on the plane!

I don't think any airline consistently offers a decent breakfast in the air compared to on-ground lounge offerings! One could make an argument about freshly cooked eggs on LX and CX F but that is about it...!

Actually for SQ, they simply give an option for both J & F pax to choose from a larger menu pre-flight. This way you have more options for your meals, and it also avoid the situation of a meal choice not being available.

No, that particular dish (egg soufflé) was in first. I thought we were talking about F, in light of that post by eternal re SQ options etc.

However....overall I agree that food in the air (despite all the advertising/promo hype) can never be as good as on the ground.