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uclacolumbiaunc Apr 30, 2014 4:32 am

Emirates throwaway ticketing?
 
Has anyone tried throwaway ticketing with Emirates before? I checked business class ticket price from USA to India, and the one-way is much more expensive the return fare. (I plan to travel one-away)

I am considering doing throwaway ticketing for my trip to India.

How will Emirates penalize me if I don't take the return flight on the reservation?

marconess Apr 30, 2014 5:25 am

If you dont make a habit of it it usually won't make a difference and nothing will come to bite back. However after a few times, if they catch on, they do have the right to charge you the fare difference.

dubaiblue Apr 30, 2014 5:26 am

numerous times, no issues apart from you will obviously not receive the miles for the leg not traveled.

ukdoctor Apr 30, 2014 5:33 am

Try J out and Y in. And don't use the Y ticket. I've found out that a Flex J out and Y back might be cheaper than a Saver J return .You will get more miles for the flight as well.

I have done this ex UK a few times

J saver return from London to Delhi is usually £1600

J flex to Delhi and Y back is around 200-300 pounds cheaper usually

I get more miles for the London Delhi trip as it is flex and the miles needed to upgrade to F is also less ( as it is Flex). I have never had any issues with not flying on the Y ticket back to the UK.

subject2load Apr 30, 2014 5:47 am

Can vaguely remember hearing/reading somewhere that airlines have been known to put a big black mark against the name of anyone intentionally engaging in this sort of practice (ie unused sectors) but I don't know for sure whether it would get you into future difficulty where Emirates is concerned.

Either way, it does highlight yet again the nonsense of some fare constructions.

jackiedada Apr 30, 2014 6:07 am


Originally Posted by ukdoctor (Post 22784656)
.. I have never had any issues with not flying on the Y ticket back to the UK.

Do you do this frequently? I mean how do you return back to the UK....

sadiqhassan Apr 30, 2014 7:07 am

I seriously doubt it will cause any problems.

I once had a ticket IAD-DXB-KHI with a stopover in DXB. My plans changed and I needed to go to KHI earlier than planned but there were no seats on EK so I tossed DXB-KHI and bought a ticket on another airline. I figured I wouldn't get the miles for IAD-DXB-KHI since the miles are only given once you complete the trip. However, to my surprise, miles for IAD-DXB posted a little while later despite me skipping a part of the ticket.

ukdoctor Apr 30, 2014 8:29 am


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 22784758)
Do you do this frequently? I mean how do you return back to the UK....

2 or 3 times in the last 5 years. I came back using another return ticket bought ex DEL. ( J return ).

Quite useful if you want to fly into one country and return from another or if there are maximum stay restrictions on the first ticket.

uclacolumbiaunc Apr 30, 2014 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by dubaiblue (Post 22784634)
numerous times, no issues apart from you will obviously not receive the miles for the leg not traveled.

This is probably the only time I will travel on Emirates in my life. I don't go to Middle East or India that often.

Though unlikely, maybe I'll go back to Middle East. But it is not in my plan for near future.

I believe I read somewhere that you have to complete your trip to receive any miles. So only flying the outbound leg won't get you any skyward miles. Is this true?

uclacolumbiaunc Apr 30, 2014 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by ukdoctor (Post 22784656)
Try J out and Y in. And don't use the Y ticket. I've found out that a Flex J out and Y back might be cheaper than a Saver J return .You will get more miles for the flight as well.

I have done this ex UK a few times

J saver return from London to Delhi is usually £1600

J flex to Delhi and Y back is around 200-300 pounds cheaper usually

I get more miles for the London Delhi trip as it is flex and the miles needed to upgrade to F is also less ( as it is Flex). I have never had any issues with not flying on the Y ticket back to the UK.

I checked the fares many times, but buying business classes both ways is cheaper than buying business outbound economy return.

Emirates definitely has an interesting algorithm calculating price of a fare.

They didn't charge you extra for no-show at airport for the return flight? I believe the fare condition specifies that no-show would cost you $400 penalty.

uclacolumbiaunc Apr 30, 2014 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan (Post 22784974)
I seriously doubt it will cause any problems.

I once had a ticket IAD-DXB-KHI with a stopover in DXB. My plans changed and I needed to go to KHI earlier than planned but there were no seats on EK so I tossed DXB-KHI and bought a ticket on another airline. I figured I wouldn't get the miles for IAD-DXB-KHI since the miles are only given once you complete the trip. However, to my surprise, miles for IAD-DXB posted a little while later despite me skipping a part of the ticket.

Did you have to call them to cancel the remaining trip to get the miles or did the miles posted to your skyward account without you doing anything?

Miles are pretty big deal for a long trip such as from USA to India. You can get a free one-way cross country flight from LAX to JFK on JetBlue using skyward miles.

ukdoctor Apr 30, 2014 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by uclacolumbiaunc (Post 22788430)
I checked the fares many times, but buying business classes both ways is cheaper than buying business outbound economy return.

Emirates definitely has an interesting algorithm calculating price of a fare.

They didn't charge you extra for no-show at airport for the return flight? I believe the fare condition specifies that no-show would cost you $400 penalty.

I've never been charged . Nor have I heard of EK charging anyone else in the forum either.

ukdoctor Apr 30, 2014 5:55 pm


Originally Posted by uclacolumbiaunc (Post 22788418)
This is probably the only time I will travel on Emirates in my life. I don't go to Middle East or India that often.

Though unlikely, maybe I'll go back to Middle East. But it is not in my plan for near future.

I believe I read somewhere that you have to complete your trip to receive any miles. So only flying the outbound leg won't get you any skyward miles. Is this true?

Miles will be posted as soon as you complete the outward journey . When I fly from London to India the miles are in my account as soon as I reach India.

I was under the impression that you had to complete one leg of the journey( could be 2/3 sectors)

I.e USA- DXB-India and that miles won't be posted if you terminate your journey in DXB. However sadiqhussan has had a different experience.!

FTR 787 May 4, 2014 6:14 am


Originally Posted by ukdoctor (Post 22785434)
2 or 3 times in the last 5 years. I came back using another return ticket bought ex DEL. ( J return ).

Quite useful if you want to fly into one country and return from another or if there are maximum stay restrictions on the first ticket.

still not sure why you did that? cause you flew into and out of the same country, heck the same airport -- so not even an openjaw.

did you stay in India for months or years on end and the original EK ticket didnt allow that or something? I'm not sure why an airline would have stay restrictions on a ticket in a first place, esp revenue tickets...


Originally Posted by ukdoctor (Post 22788791)
Miles will be posted as soon as you complete the outward journey . When I fly from London to India the miles are in my account as soon as I reach India.

I was under the impression that you had to complete one leg of the journey( could be 2/3 sectors)

I.e USA- DXB-India and that miles won't be posted if you terminate your journey in DXB. However sadiqhussan has had a different experience.!

I dont think so, you get miles credited for any leg of the journey you take. if you have a complex itinerary with 4 sectors and only complete 1 sector, you still get credit for the one you flew even if you dont fly the remaining 3 for some reason. obviously not a good idea, or rather a waste and might stand out to any airline analyst running reports for unusual behavior tied to you. but I digress.

ukdoctor May 4, 2014 8:11 am


Originally Posted by FTRox87 (Post 22807129)
still not sure why you did that? cause you flew into and out of the same country, heck the same airport -- so not even an openjaw.

did you stay in India for months or years on end and the original EK ticket didnt allow that or something? I'm not sure why an airline would have stay restrictions on a ticket in a first place, esp revenue tickets...


I dont think so, you get miles credited for any leg of the journey you take. if you have a complex itinerary with 4 sectors and only complete 1 sector, you still get credit for the one you flew even if you dont fly the remaining 3 for some reason. obviously not a good idea, or rather a waste and might stand out to any airline analyst running reports for unusual behavior tied to you. but I digress.

Sometimes you get incredibly cheap deals ex India. Sometimes it can be 50 % of the ex Uk fare. Obviously I have to travel to India first .

Its usually cheaper to buy a J out Y in ticket ex Uk. I then throw away the Y ticket once I reach India.Then buy a J return from India and come back to the UK. The return To India is used to go back to India.


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