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Originally Posted by Manolito3
(Post 16909279)
Are you suggesting that to obtain gold we should all have to fly 108,975 actual miles which is man to Melbourne five times a year while every other loyalty programme only asks 50,000 miles to achieve gold
If you're not flying enough to meet whatever criterion the airline sets for its elite status, you're not flying enough in their eyes. If the grass is greener elsewhere, its a free market! :) |
Originally Posted by B747-437B
(Post 16901103)
Arguably, it was more ludicrous that someone could be top tier elite WITHOUT flying at least that much. :)
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Originally Posted by Manolito3
(Post 16909279)
B747-437b
Are you suggesting that to obtain gold we should all have to fly 108,975 actual miles which is man to Melbourne five times a year while every other loyalty programme only asks 50,000 miles to achieve gold 5 minutes on the Internet brought up man to Melbourne taking 10/09 to 17/09 as an average Skywards cost£5344 per person for 54000 tier miles ie 4 roundtrips at 13500 tier miles while etihad brought in 43590 tier miles for 2 journeys at a cost of £2477 per person same journey Do you not agree skywards has brought in saver fares to thin out it's elite membership leaving the lounges for it's business paying members only I signed up for skywards because I believed them to be fair and affordable,now they seem to be reneging on these perks in the name of making the system simpler to understand By the way the emirates flight had one way in flex so god knows how the figures would have added up all in saver... Not good reading I would have thought |
HI Aquitania
Etihad Guest just gave you a Gold Elite Card ? Or they Status Match you ... Because I hear that Etihad dont give out Gold Elite Card unless u reach the 125.000K miles.... Gold Card is the highest they Match or giving some kind of promotion. |
Yes, they sent the Gold Elite card to me this week. Did not ask them for it at all, but it might be that the Centurion agent arranged it for me when reserving the tickets. Not sure, but definitely appreciated the attention.
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Originally Posted by Manolito3
(Post 16909279)
B747-437b
Are you suggesting that to obtain gold we should all have to fly 108,975 actual miles which is man to Melbourne five times a year while every other loyalty programme only asks 50,000 miles to achieve gold e.g. Qantas's mid tier level ( which is level which provides for lounge access ). MEL-LHR r/t earns 120 Status Credits in discount economy. 700 is needed to attain Gold and 600 to renew so is 5 r/ts to renew it. To attain the top tier requires twice that level Full economy would earn 240 points so would halve it ( same as how Emirates offers twice the earning for flex fares ), however on Qantas , for international travel, only full fare economy will earn full SCs whilst Emirates offers flex fares to Australia at about 20% over the lowest economy cost)
Originally Posted by Manolito3
Skywards cost£5344 per person for 54000 tier miles
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Originally Posted by Aquitania
(Post 16912323)
Yes, they sent the Gold Elite card to me this week. Did not ask them for it at all, but it might be that the Centurion agent arranged it for me when reserving the tickets. Not sure, but definitely appreciated the attention.
Safe Flying EGT |
Originally Posted by Manolito3
(Post 16909399)
Does it mean that if I transfer to etihad that they will provide a gold card status,without having to go through the blue, silver card process and queueing at airports all over again?
And in regards to elite (Gold) tiers at other airlines outside the Middle East, we could do a benchmark of their threshold. Just to let you know, Lufthansa (LH) threshold to become Gold (Senator) is 130k (when living in Germany). |
Originally Posted by GigoloArt
(Post 16917760)
Thats correct.
And in regards to elite (Gold) tiers at other airlines outside the Middle East, we could do a benchmark of their threshold. Just to let you know, Lufthansa (LH) threshold to become Gold (Senator) is 130k (when living in Germany). All of my flying (and everything else in life) comes out of my own pocket. I am not employed and am not in business, so I have no sympathy whatsoever for people whose fares are paid by their employer complaining. And BTW, I have renewed my QF Gold membership for approx AUD 2,500 and my EK Gold for less than AUD 5,000 this year. I know that this will annoy many people on this board, such as ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER, but that's life. Just my point of view. |
Originally Posted by Budley
(Post 16920165)
As a UA 1K, 2MM, QF and EK Gold flyer I know a little bit about achieving status. Anyone that doesn't do sensible research on minimising costs (if that's what they want to do) can't really complain IMHO.
All of my flying (and everything else in life) comes out of my own pocket. I am not employed and am not in business, so I have no sympathy whatsoever for people whose fares are paid by their employer complaining. And BTW, I have renewed my QF Gold membership for approx AUD 2,500 and my EK Gold for less than AUD 5,000 this year. I know that this will annoy many people on this board, such as ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER, but that's life. Just my point of view. I am indeed happy for you to being able to renew your status with EK. On a personal note I do not share a liking for those people who Status Match for just having a go for some upcoming flights & then look for a soft landing:mad: All revenue renewers are always more than welcome. Its your/our business that keep FT & the airline FTQ business on track. BTW no one pays for me too but unfortunately I do have to work. Call it freaking destiny or kind off a burden that some how I got on my small butt (its bigger now) & I do have to pay for 1278 people also & this is only the offical figure;) About the rest. Well then we would need some silica & a LOT of hard liquid in an indecent sorrounding at illegal hours to talk over. Don't forget I need to work at the legal hours.:D Safe Flying EGT |
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Originally Posted by jiggyjig
(Post 16925846)
Can we really complain about the saver / flex issue though if we can get top tier status for a spend of just a$5000 regardless of who pays the bill ? I think ek would look at this and believe they are correct in thinning out the number of golds.
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Flexible way
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I got the answer to my original query by emailing emirates directly They told me the only way to buy flex tickets direct is not online as this always gives the cheapest fare to the fields entered To buy flex I have to phone the reservations centre whose number for the uk is 0844 800 2777 which I did and found flex flights to joburg at Xmas are about £140 dearer than saver but giving full mileage. This means we probably will be gold again next year as I'm willing to pay that much just so we don't have to queue at the airports.so thanks for all your views we got there in the end Happy flying |
Originally Posted by jiggyjig
(Post 16926140)
Whether it's worth paying extra for flex depends on where your based though as the increase in price to get flex isn't consistent. LH treats it's home market differently - it could be worse though - you could have higher tier thresholds for people based in dxb than everyone else, or SQ where the cheaper fares get no miles at all.
The implementation could definitely have been more transparent and communicated better, rather than finding out when you go to book. Having got a Swiss air yesterday, it puts into perspective how good ek are,even if skywards is being devalued. As for Skywards and other programmes - with LH you feel like they're out to nickel and dime you. Look at the M&M forum and there's enhancements every week. EK used to be about the comfort, convenience and pleasure of flying. Sure, you become too liberal and your business becomes unviable. But EK has always been innovative in the past, and it would be nice to see them finding innovative solutions (which they say they are working on), rather than following the pack and reducing mileage and benefits. That's what differentiates a market leader (one that has a lot of financial resources at hand in this case) from the 'industry'. |
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