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Originally Posted by ft101
(Post 16304673)
Maybe on your routes - certainly not on mine where Flex fares were the norm. I find it difficult to believe that someone thinks the current Skywards is the same as it was even a week ago. You just have to read posts on here to know that is not so.
The scheme changed when it was revamped, but I see no difference today as to when it 1st changed nor have I found it to be a particularly negative change
Originally Posted by ft101
(Post 16304673)
Maybe your market is different from most discussed on here. Emirates general practice seems to be to charge more for telephone bookings. May I ask where you are based?
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 16304752)
Saver fares are definitely not new and have seen them around since they were 1st introduced over a year ago
The scheme changed when it was revamped, but I see no difference today as to when it 1st changed nor have I found it to be a particularly negative change |
Just flew on a fare that had a SAVER endorsement in the fare rules but showed up as FLEX when booking (see my earlier post on this thread ref: change in rules). FLEX miles were awarded automatically.
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Originally Posted by ung1
(Post 16304936)
Then you have been missing something because there has been a change in which fares are classified as Savers. I don't know if you're only looking at J/ F tickets perhaps, but in Y it's gone from actual promotional fares being Saver to regular, flexible tickets being classified as Saver. And this change is most certainly recent.
For my own travel I only tend to be concerned with business/1st ( and there have been saver business fares for a while ) but do arrange travel for other people and not found any major changes |
They finally got to my regular route, DXB - SIN.
Thanks to the lovely combination of increasing fares due to increasing oil prices, and the flex/ saver changes, I would need to pay 60% more than I did 2 months ago for a flex ticket. At current prices, a flex ticket would cost 30% over a saver ticket. I think this is where EK becomes uncompetitive for me. It turns out Etihad has decent timings even though they only fly 3 times a week. But changes cost AED 200 vs free on EK. But I get full miles on EY. SQ is now the cheapest on this route, but for the same price as Etihad I can get a mileage accruing ticket. I hate SQ, so I know I won't switch to them, but this really has me thinking now. QR has great fares too, but only 50% mileage, a detour via DOH and terrible timings. I could give up on having status on Skywards and still fly EK at the Saver fare level. But that's going to make EK boring. If I suck up and pay the extra for the flex fare, I'll be flying a lot less. The other thing I could do is burn miles, which should keep me going at least a couple of years. |
Just looked up fares for CDG-ICN and return BKK-CDG, and it shows a combination of Saver/Flex for 9,000 miles. Interesting.... never seen this before....
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Originally Posted by callmethebreeze
(Post 16309333)
Just looked up fares for CDG-ICN and return BKK-CDG, and it shows a combination of Saver/Flex for 9,000 miles. Interesting.... never seen this before....
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Originally Posted by ung1
(Post 16309427)
It's quite common to have fares where one leg is flex and the other is saver...
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Originally Posted by ung1
(Post 16308940)
They finally got to my regular route, DXB - SIN.
Thanks to the lovely combination of increasing fares due to increasing oil prices, and the flex/ saver changes, I would need to pay 60% more than I did 2 months ago for a flex ticket. At current prices, a flex ticket would cost 30% over a saver ticket. I think this is where EK becomes uncompetitive for me. It turns out Etihad has decent timings even though they only fly 3 times a week. But changes cost AED 200 vs free on EK. But I get full miles on EY. SQ is now the cheapest on this route, but for the same price as Etihad I can get a mileage accruing ticket. I hate SQ, so I know I won't switch to them, but this really has me thinking now. QR has great fares too, but only 50% mileage, a detour via DOH and terrible timings. I could give up on having status on Skywards and still fly EK at the Saver fare level. But that's going to make EK boring. If I suck up and pay the extra for the flex fare, I'll be flying a lot less. The other thing I could do is burn miles, which should keep me going at least a couple of years. You summed it up perfectly. I am in two minds about forking out for the flex fares at an average of $500/600 extra or give up and focus on EY/QR. EY and QR are annoying with their AUH/DOH hubs and add to that zero mileage balance so Y flying for a while !! |
Originally Posted by khalid26
(Post 16310380)
+1
You summed it up perfectly. I am in two minds about forking out for the flex fares at an average of $500/600 extra or give up and focus on EY/QR. EY and QR are annoying with their AUH/DOH hubs and add to that zero mileage balance so Y flying for a while !! 1. Even though Etihad's booking engine says AED 200 per change and AED 500 for cancellation, the fare rules say AED 100 per change and AED 150 for cancellation. 2. The cheapest fare on Etihad earns full miles, but the fare is not upgradeable. The next higher fare which is upgradeable is still lower than EK's lowest flex fare. |
Originally Posted by B747-437B
(Post 16305044)
Just flew on a fare that had a SAVER endorsement in the fare rules but showed up as FLEX when booking (see my earlier post on this thread ref: change in rules). FLEX miles were awarded automatically.
Originally Posted by ung1
(Post 16304936)
Then you have been missing something because there has been a change in which fares are classified as Savers. I don't know if you're only looking at J/ F tickets perhaps, but in Y it's gone from actual promotional fares being Saver to regular, flexible tickets being classified as Saver. And this change is most certainly recent.
I managed to find a fare with one leg saver and one flex.. Checked the fare conditions and did a word to word comparasion of the same thru MS Word Compare.. The ONLY thing changes in the whole t&C"s was in the endorsement box where Flex was made Saver and in Flex it was valid for EK/IT and in Saver T&C's it was valid only on EK !!!! No Other difference in any clause (including change fee, stopovers etc etc) :eek: So this means same t&C and similar fares but 1/2 miles for the pax :td: |
Update after discussion with Skywards desk in T3 Business Lounge
I was in the T3 J lounge today so I took the below example of Flex and Saver having the same conditions to the Skywards desk ..
They said only complaints should be given online and please follow up in 1 week if you don't hear from them since they can get quite busy :o The email ids they asked me to send the complaints is : skywardsgold at emirates dot com and customer.affairs at emirates dot com.. |
This is confusing and frustrating. If I try booking a DXB - SIN out tomorrow back end of the week, I actually get a flex fare showing for the cheapest fare. The fare has gone up from a few months ago, but that's justifiable given rising fuel prices etc. But then fare rules show Saver. I'm wondering if I should book a few of these just to be safe.
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Originally Posted by ung1
(Post 16324954)
This is confusing and frustrating. If I try booking a DXB - SIN out tomorrow back end of the week, I actually get a flex fare showing for the cheapest fare. The fare has gone up from a few months ago, but that's justifiable given rising fuel prices etc. But then fare rules show Saver. I'm wondering if I should book a few of these just to be safe.
IME, the fare rules were exaclty the same only endorsement was saver.. check post 161 below.. Maybe I misunderstood, but if u r getting it only for trips this week , then how can u book a few of these ;) |
Originally Posted by ung1
(Post 16324954)
This is confusing and frustrating. If I try booking a DXB - SIN out tomorrow back end of the week, I actually get a flex fare showing for the cheapest fare. The fare has gone up from a few months ago, but that's justifiable given rising fuel prices etc. But then fare rules show Saver. I'm wondering if I should book a few of these just to be safe.
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