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May 29, 2006 | 10:51 pm
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I was wondering out of curiosity could one bring on a cheeseburger or ham sandwich or a meat and milk meal onboard from one of the restaurants at JFK? El AL serves Kosher meals onboard and you can bring your own meal. I wonder what a rabbi or an orthodox passenger sitting next to the secular Jew or non-Jew say? Could you be sued for bringing on a ham sandwich? Would be an interesting thing to try just to see the looks? Not to be offensive but has this ever happened on an El Al Flight?
May 29, 2006 | 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by danielonn
I was wondering out of curiosity could . . .
May 30, 2006 | 12:02 am
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"ElAl serves Kosher" means you will not get milk after a non-dairy meal from the FAs in the isles. It does not mean they will not serve you coffee with milk in the galley if you go there alone and ask. The meals are Kosher, the plates an utensils are separated and kept Kosher but it does not mean anyone on board MUST keep kosher through the flight. You just don't get many opportunities not to ... 
I believe one can bring anything he/she wants on board and use it as much as they want to. I don't believe one can be sues for eating a cheeseburger on a flight. However, I cannot predict the behaviour of the surrounding passengers at a specific flight.
I believe one can bring anything he/she wants on board and use it as much as they want to. I don't believe one can be sues for eating a cheeseburger on a flight. However, I cannot predict the behaviour of the surrounding passengers at a specific flight.
May 30, 2006 | 12:36 am
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Originally Posted by apirchik
I don't believe one can be sues for eating a cheeseburger on a flight. However, I cannot predict the behaviour of the surrounding passengers at a specific flight.
May 30, 2006 | 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by mikebg
I really don't think the behaviour of the surrounding passengers is the issue. It is the gross insensitivity of the passenger with the ham sandwich. (NOTE: I think that meat and milk, despite being a stricter halachik prohibition, has less cultural connotations. The average westerner will know that Jews in general find ham offensive, but is unlikely to be aware of the meat+milk problem).
When in a sandwich, ham is just like any other pastrami (the smell can be a little different
). Unless the guy yells around that he is eating ham on LY, there shouldn't be any problem. If someone walks into an LY plane with a brown MKD bag with cheeseburger, fries, a milkshake and a piece of beef jerkey in hand, I do find it "a little" offensive that might even trigger a security event on the plane (security on LY flights do not like troublemakers).
May 30, 2006 | 5:40 am
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2 weeks ago The Rav Rashi Was sitting next to me.On my way to London.
I wanted to eat a chocloate that I had in my bag after the meat meal
(But I didn't) This was ELAL flight (He was drinking whisky)
1 week ago I was flying CO to EWR and another Rabi was next too me
(an American one )
I wanted to eat the shrimps but Ifel uncomfrtable and eat the pasta
I didn't want him to feel unhappy.
Lets see who is it going to be next week to NY?
Maybe a beuteaful shixe
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I wanted to eat a chocloate that I had in my bag after the meat meal
(But I didn't) This was ELAL flight (He was drinking whisky)
1 week ago I was flying CO to EWR and another Rabi was next too me
(an American one )
I wanted to eat the shrimps but Ifel uncomfrtable and eat the pasta
I didn't want him to feel unhappy.
Lets see who is it going to be next week to NY?
Maybe a beuteaful shixe
====================================
May 30, 2006 | 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by apirchik
"ElAl serves Kosher" means you will not get milk after a non-dairy meal from the FAs in the isles. It does not mean they will not serve you coffee with milk in the galley if you go there alone and ask. The meals are Kosher, the plates an utensils are separated and kept Kosher but it does not mean anyone on board MUST keep kosher through the flight. You just don't get many opportunities not to ...
Its true LY is a Kosher airline, but it doesnot force everyone to be kosher.
May 31, 2006 | 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by LiorM
2 weeks ago The Rav Rashi Was sitting next to me.On my way to London.
I wanted to eat a chocloate that I had in my bag after the meat meal
(But I didn't) This was ELAL flight (He was drinking whisky)
1 week ago I was flying CO to EWR and another Rabi was next too me
(an American one )
I wanted to eat the shrimps but Ifel uncomfrtable and eat the pasta
I didn't want him to feel unhappy.
Lets see who is it going to be next week to NY?
Maybe a beuteaful shixe
====================================
I wanted to eat a chocloate that I had in my bag after the meat meal
(But I didn't) This was ELAL flight (He was drinking whisky)
1 week ago I was flying CO to EWR and another Rabi was next too me
(an American one )
I wanted to eat the shrimps but Ifel uncomfrtable and eat the pasta
I didn't want him to feel unhappy.
Lets see who is it going to be next week to NY?
Maybe a beuteaful shixe
====================================
Jun 3, 2006 | 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by mikebg
Do you think that there is anyone, Jewish or not, who would not regard such behaviour as being highly offensive?
Jun 6, 2006 | 12:30 am
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a further question is if a passenger feels they have the right to bring and eat ham, pork etc on a Ly flight and say why not its my right!
Would they bring a hamburger onto an Air India flight? which is basically almost doing the samething in regards to bringing and eating Tarif on LY.
CO wont even serve Meat (Cow) on its EWR-DEL flights out of respect for those religious Hindus. Why shouldnt LY do the same ?!
I have a strange feeling that anyone who would demand to bring and eat Tarif on LY wouldnt dare do it if they were on a flight to DEL out respect for the Hindus on board. Just another sad state of affairs.
Would they bring a hamburger onto an Air India flight? which is basically almost doing the samething in regards to bringing and eating Tarif on LY.
CO wont even serve Meat (Cow) on its EWR-DEL flights out of respect for those religious Hindus. Why shouldnt LY do the same ?!
I have a strange feeling that anyone who would demand to bring and eat Tarif on LY wouldnt dare do it if they were on a flight to DEL out respect for the Hindus on board. Just another sad state of affairs.
Jun 6, 2006 | 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by craz
Would they bring a hamburger onto an Air India flight? which is basically almost doing the samething in regards to bringing and eating Tarif on LY.
Originally Posted by craz
CO wont even serve Meat (Cow) on its EWR-DEL flights out of respect for those religious Hindus. Why shouldnt LY do the same ?!
Originally Posted by craz
I have a strange feeling that anyone who would demand to bring and eat Tarif on LY wouldnt dare do it if they were on a flight to DEL out respect for the Hindus on board. Just another sad state of affairs.