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LY777 Jun 11, 2018 3:26 pm

767/744 retirement & 787 delivery schedule
 
Hi guys

we can summarize on this topic the 767/744 retirement and 787 delivery schedule.

I heard the 767 will be withdrawn soon

ACYYZ/SD Jun 12, 2018 4:44 am


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 29855176)
Hi guys

we can summarize on this topic the 767/744 retirement and 787 delivery schedule.

I heard the 767 will be withdrawn soon

Family member just booked YYZ-TLV on points. Amazed that for pure competitive reasons the 767 remains on the Toronto route. Always figured it would have been one of the first to transition to the Dreamliner. Even BOS is changing to a 772 for the Winter Season.

ly787 Jun 12, 2018 5:48 am


Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD (Post 29856930)
Family member just booked YYZ-TLV on points. Amazed that for pure competitive reasons the 767 remains on the Toronto route. Always figured it would have been one of the first to transition to the Dreamliner. Even BOS is changing to a 772 for the Winter Season.

Most 767 will be replaced by 788 when they arrive .
as I wrote in the other post , MIA and LAX are getting 789 from oct 29

entropy Jun 12, 2018 5:59 am


Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD (Post 29856930)
Family member just booked YYZ-TLV on points. Amazed that for pure competitive reasons the 767 remains on the Toronto route. Always figured it would have been one of the first to transition to the Dreamliner. Even BOS is changing to a 772 for the Winter Season.

Yes, why YYZ is still a junky 767 is beyond me, but the 788s don't seem to be on-tap for a while, nu?

LY777 Jun 12, 2018 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by entropy (Post 29857088)
Yes, why YYZ is still a junky 767 is beyond me, but the 788s don't seem to be on-tap for a while, nu?

the first 788 will arrive in July 2019

LY777 Jun 12, 2018 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by ly787 (Post 29857059)

Most 767 will be replaced by 788 when they arrive .
as I wrote in the other post , MIA and LAX are getting 789 from oct 29

when will all 767s leave the fleet?

clubman Jun 19, 2018 12:12 am


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 29858957)
when will all 767s leave the fleet?

4XEAP (Herzelia) year built 1991 - will be retired July 2019

4XEAJ (Bat Yam) Built 1991 - will be retired Sep 2019

4XEAK (Rehovot) Built 1997 - will be retired Decemeber 2019

4XEAR (Kfar Saba) built 1995 - will be retired March 2020

4XEAM (Dalia El Carmel) ) Built 1998 - will be retired May 2020

4XEAN Built 1996 - will be retired May 2020

4XEAL (Mishmar HaEmek) Built 2000 - will be retired Nov 2020

LY777 Jun 19, 2018 2:00 am

Thanks clubman.
but EAK is already out of LY fleet (damaged by Germania plane) and I heard LY wanted to accelerate the withdrawal of the 767s

clubman Jun 19, 2018 10:43 am

Sorry, I meant to add that was the original scheduled retirement plan as of a few weeks ago, but I'm aware there are a couple of changes due to accident.

I'm not sure however that they can get rid of the fleet sooner than scheduled as they don't yet have the aircrafts to replace them.

Houminer Jun 19, 2018 10:57 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 29881312)

4XEAL (Mishmar HaEmek) Built 2000 - will be retired Nov 2020

I flew on the "newest" 767 today.
It looks ancient.
OTOH, flying to BCN in a wide-body is better than a 737

LY777 Jun 19, 2018 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 29882915)
Sorry, I meant to add that was the original scheduled retirement plan as of a few weeks ago, but I'm aware there are a couple of changes due to accident.

I'm not sure however that they can get rid of the fleet sooner than scheduled as they don't yet have the aircrafts to replace them.

They could keep the 744s a bit longer :)

entropy Jun 19, 2018 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 29883446)
They could keep the 744s a bit longer :)

I think Boeing has a few spare 748's they can replace them pretty much right away, too :)

ly787 Jun 20, 2018 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 29881312)
4XEAP (Herzelia) year built 1991 - will be retired July 2019

4XEAJ (Bat Yam) Built 1991 - will be retired Sep 2019

4XEAK (Rehovot) Built 1997 - will be retired Decemeber 2019

4XEAR (Kfar Saba) built 1995 - will be retired March 2020

4XEAM (Dalia El Carmel) ) Built 1998 - will be retired May 2020

4XEAN Built 1996 - will be retired May 2020

4XEAL (Mishmar HaEmek) Built 2000 - will be retired Nov 2020

so this is the old schedule , they are planning to retire them (they are all leased) much sooner
ELAL will keep their owned 744 a little bit longer .
it was the same with the 742.
Its hard to give up those beauties :)


LY777 Jun 20, 2018 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by ly787 (Post 29889038)

so this is the old schedule , they are planning to retire them (they are all leased) much sooner
ELAL will keep their owned 744 a little bit longer .
it was the same with the 742.
Its hard to give up those beauties :)


great :)

clubman Jun 20, 2018 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by ly787 (Post 29889038)
(they are all leased)

4XEAP isn't as far as I am aware.


Originally Posted by ly787 (Post 29889038)
ELAL will keep their owned 744 a little bit longer

So the retirement schedule for the 744s has also been changed? 3 of them were meant to be gone by January with the remaining 2 to be retired by July.



Originally Posted by ly787 (Post 29889038)
it was the same with the 742.

If they kept the 744s as long as they did some of the 742s they'd be around for another 7 years or so, by which time they'll be seriously dated (as was the 742). I doubt that's going to happen though. Not with the scheduled arrival of the Dreamliners.


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