That 2005 order was cancelled, no?

Yes.

What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-busin-436146/

http://www.sltrib.com/home/5125945-1...umbles-on-seat

222 seats in economy

32 Business
28 Premium Economy
222 Economy
total 282 pax

thats more than the 280 on the 777
6 - FIRST
35 Business
34 Economy Plus
204 Economy

(for comparison
AC have 298 on 787-9
AF has 276
AA has 285
KL has 294)
All these airlines have herringbone in business + premium economy)
One difference I see is that the others fit in 30 business class seats between doors 1 and 2 and EL AL only fits in 28 )

It may be more in total, BUT it's 9 LESS in business and first combined than the 777, and that's a VERY big difference.

Additionally, knock off 2 seats for the spoiled-brat pilot rest seats, another 4 for the dead-head spoiled brat pilots and then upgrades are going to be incredibly scarce, even more so than today. That basically kills El Al's competitive edge for the one-destination FF's (TLV-NYC) including me.

Forget upgrades. With a far smaller cabin business class seats will be much harder to get. In addition, the PROPORTION of premium seats (business and first) on the aircraft is lower, and I don't think that premium economy can be made expensive enough to offset the lower revenue earned, especially as some of that would have originally come from First. I hope they have done their arithmetic, but knowing EL AL they probably haven't.

Anyone know what premium economy will be like?

This may suck for the NYC flyers, but it'll be a yuge upgrade for us in YYZ.

of course its a big difference from the 777, its a much different aircraft.
you'll also have 28 seats with about 38' pitch. I'd rather be able to fly knowing i'll have 38' if I'm paying full fare economy than the slight chance of being upgraded and if not staying in coach.

But i dont think you will need to worry about NYC nights flights just yet, im pretty sure they will continue to be 777 - even after 744 leave the fleet ( with a bigger premium class offering)

I wonder what the plans are for the new 777 interiors.

Most of the flights out of JFK are 747. I can't see them switching to 777. I would imagine we will be getting some of the new planes. ( or am I missing something here)

They'll be leaving in the next few years

LY may need 4 779s

Just to make it clear, where did you get all the info regarding the 787s? I did see any original source stating those facts...

Are LY going for 3-3-3 or 2-4-2 in economy?