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yyzzrh Oct 4, 2010 9:03 am

New route?
 
Following up on everyone's concern about this forums inactivity, I thought that maybe we can copy some successful threads from other forums, if they can potentially liven up the forum.

Therefore I suggest a thread I saw in a different forum.

What two destinations would you like to see ELAL flying to?

gordo6 Oct 4, 2010 9:07 am

NRT or HND

Houminer Oct 4, 2010 12:03 pm

IST and break the monopoly by THY

damaxer91 Oct 4, 2010 12:47 pm

SYD or SIN

LatusElAl Oct 4, 2010 1:12 pm

MIA
Makes zero sense to me that there is no service to this significant US gateway which also happens to have an enormous Jewish community (all over South Florida) and a tremendous number of Israelis as well.

clubman Oct 4, 2010 2:02 pm

MAN - Not that I would gain anything from it but I strongly believe there is a case for them to reinstate the route.

LCA - Always chose LY on my trips there.

N830MH Oct 4, 2010 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 14884445)
IST and break the monopoly by THY

I don't think LY will ever reinstating TLV-IST. Because LY has been discontinuation some a long, long time ago. Maybe LY will have reconsidering it.


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 14883236)
NRT or HND

No doubt about it. I think it will under particular consideration for LY is choosing NRT or HND. This is a logical choice for which the specific routes will start own metal nonstop from TLV-NRT, if necessary.

yyzzrh Oct 5, 2010 6:36 am

My own take;

BSL
YUL

I have to agree about MIA, though.

gordo6 Oct 5, 2010 8:33 am

LY won't start MIA until FAA ranks Israel as cat. I again, which will not happen soon. But shouldn't they start ORD first due to the AA codeshare?

Or maybe if they start MIA they could fly TLV-MIA 1-2 weekly and TLV-MIA-MCO-TLV (or TLV-MCO-MIA-TLV) 1 weekly (so total 2-3 weekly).

mkilmo Oct 5, 2010 11:19 am

BOS (assuming Israel would become cat I) or SFO (both are good destinations for lots of Israeli travel, and both are big airports with lots of connections).

and...

TPE (just because I want a direct flight there, not because it would make sense from LY's point).

gordo6 Oct 5, 2010 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by mkilmo (Post 14891106)
BOS (assuming Israel would become cat I) or SFO (both are good destinations for lots of Israeli travel, and both are big airports with lots of connections).

Considering the fact that LY aircrafts wait a long time in JFK/EWR/YYZ before their return to TLV, there may be TLV-JFK/YYZ-MIA/SFO or TLV-JFK/EWR-BOS/ORD flights.

I would also like to see LY flying B757s to the US as TLV-DUB/Shannon-US for US immigrations in Ireland (hopefully with newer business class seats).

I would also like them to start PVG (maybe as TLV-PEK-PVG).

ELAL Oct 5, 2010 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 14889999)
LY won't start MIA until FAA ranks Israel as cat. I again, which will not happen soon. But shouldn't they start ORD first due to the AA codeshare?

Or maybe if they start MIA they could fly TLV-MIA 1-2 weekly and TLV-MIA-MCO-TLV (or TLV-MCO-MIA-TLV) 1 weekly (so total 2-3 weekly).

Am I right to understand that the fact that they are not rated cat. I, restricts them from operating new routes?

N830MH Oct 5, 2010 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by yyzzrh (Post 14889436)
My own take;

BSL
YUL

I have to agree about MIA, though.

I think BSL could be consider. I think those routes will done extremely performance very well. I think LY will have 3 or 4x weekly frequencies. I think it will perfect opportunity for me. There is few 10,000 Jewish populations who lived in BSL areas.

sds1493 Oct 5, 2010 5:03 pm


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 14883236)
NRT or HND

Tokyo would be nice but is there enough O&D. Israle would have to work on the tourist aspect in conjunction with LY to woo the Japanese into coming. Currently there don't seem to be too many Japanese tourists in E"Y. Can't speak about business travel though.

Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 14884445)
IST and break the monopoly by THY

I think LY are more likely to start a new route where they would have a monopoly.

Originally Posted by damaxer91 (Post 14884762)
SYD or SIN

SYD and SIN both have a similar O&D problem. In addition, anywhere SE involves a big detour. Hence I don't think LY could currently handle SYD anyway.

Originally Posted by LatusElAl (Post 14884955)
MIA
Makes zero sense to me that there is no service to this significant US gateway which also happens to have an enormous Jewish community (all over South Florida) and a tremendous number of Israelis as well.

MIA/ORD have got to be on the tabs next. But the FAA rating doesn't help.

Originally Posted by clubman (Post 14885340)
MAN - Not that I would gain anything from it but I strongly believe there is a case for them to reinstate the route.

Jet2 do seem to be doing pretty well there. It's proximity to LON must be a factor for LY's decision, but it would still shave off 3 hours each way for any MAN pax.

Originally Posted by clubman (Post 14885340)
LCA - Always chose LY on my trips there.

Can LY make it work to LCA against two CY and one IZ (IIRC) flights?


Originally Posted by yyzzrh (Post 14889436)
My own take;

BSL
YUL

I have to agree about MIA, though.

BSL's not going to happen with ZRH and GVA already strongly served. And YUL is too close to YYZ and NYC. Only possibility is as an add-on like gordo6 suggests.

Originally Posted by mkilmo (Post 14891106)
BOS (assuming Israel would become cat I) or SFO (both are good destinations for lots of Israeli travel, and both are big airports with lots of connections).

BOS is to close to NYC. I don't think SFO could work for a similar reason. The alternative connection options are too plentiful from SFO.


Originally Posted by mkilmo (Post 14891106)
TPE (just because I want a direct flight there, not because it would make sense from LY's point).

TPE :eek:


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 14892101)
Considering the fact that LY aircrafts wait a long time in JFK/EWR/YYZ before their return to TLV, there may be TLV-JFK/YYZ-MIA/SFO or TLV-JFK/EWR-BOS/ORD flights.

I know you mean as a continuation from TLV, but do LY have 5th freedom rights in the US of A?


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 14892101)
I would also like to see LY flying B757s to the US as TLV-DUB/Shannon-US for US immigrations in Ireland (hopefully with newer business class seats).

That's a very interesting idea. However, it would be a lot less popular on the return, unless Israel set up pre-clearance in DUB/SNN as well (which I don't see happening).


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 14892101)
I would also like them to start PVG (maybe as TLV-PEK-PVG).

I could see PVG. It is currently really difficult to get there easily, and the LY/CA (?) option isn't particularly palatable. With good partnership in PVG, they could really give it the potential to work.

One interesting possibility I can thinkof is MEX. Tat would really open up Latin America, the Carribean and various Mexican tourist destinations. But again, LY would need a strong partner there.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

ELAL Oct 5, 2010 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 14893216)
I think BSL could be consider. I think those routes will done extremely performance very well. I think LY will have 3 or 4x weekly frequencies. I think it will perfect opportunity for me. There is few 10,000 Jewish populations who lived in BSL areas.

Assuming you are referring to Basel, it dosen't make much sense, as Zurich is less than a hour's drive away.


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