Now you are talking! The heck with steak, breakfast is the most important meal, and the pig rules at that time of day.

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• http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/dinin...ses-world.html
• Argentine Beef Versus American Beef

Wait till you try Matsusaka beef which is is great as well (not very well-known outside of Japan though, I think). Many rate it to be even better than Kobe beef.

Mmmmm being able to eat fillet steak without using knife and fork (i.e. soft enough for being able to cut it with chopsticks).

I prefer the Brazilian over the Argentinian beef, but could also be because I really did not have time to eat the beef down there. Was there 2 nights and ate a Lechon feast one night and the other was some tiny restaurant in a very small town of Freyere.

Prefer the Brazilian beef as the best in the world...taste is so much better and after a full meal -- one does not need to sleep like with a lot of the US beef.

i love Aberdeen Angus

Clearly you havent been to Norway, where they lock all foreign beef out, and then use knackered old milk cows as their beef supply.

I assure you no steak I ever tasted in the UK was ever this bad!

I was just gonna write the same thing...and you left out the fact that a kilo of it costs at the very least $25 and often $35/40...

However, there is an independent butcher near my place in Oslo where I've found excellent beef.

Luckily for me i travel often so I get my allowances of proper beef every other week or so...

I'd give my vote to bistecca fiorentina, preferably at Trattoria Pandemonio in Florence. This is a super juicy T-Bone that is out of this world.

Chili's makes a good steak with cheese and other condiments melted on top..
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Seriously, Kobe beef, the Wagyu thick kind has been the best I've had. Not the thin shabu shabu style cut.

Matsusaka beef is on my next Japan todo list for sure. Have read enough about other's experiences that I need a towel to dry off my laptop.

I've had some very good island beef on Kauai (seemed slightly gamey & very lean) and pretty good stuff on Maui too... To find the local beef on the islands, you need to go to a local store (not Safeway)... Kauai had a couple good ones - sometimes Foodland carried it, and it seemed it was irregular on what cuts of beef you would find. Longs on Maui had local beef too... but never found the shortribs I adore... visiting KOA in June and can't wait to try their beef... mmm...

(Have no international dining experience but have had several exotic meats in Alaska - moose, caribou, beaver, seal, whale :cool:)

I have to agree. I had this at the Four Seasons in Bangkok, and all I can say is OMG, it is better than Kobe. I also had it sashimi style while in Tokyo, and it was unreal.

- Dave

^ We ate steak both in Argentina and Australia (two repeat visits to Oz) last year. We were actually more impressed by the Argentine pork than the beef. We greatly enjoyed the steaks we ate, we look forward to return trips, yet for us the steak of choice comes from U.S.D.A. Prime and Certified Angus.

It's a definite à chacun son goût decision.

Cheers,
Fredd

Being a steak person myself, I must vote for the USDA Prime. Its just REALLY good. But I will give a nod to a good steak i had recently, it was the Austrailian Wagyu ribeye. just cooked and tasted amazing. Was so good i even converted a friend who "doesn't like steak" into "I didn't know it could taste this good!!!"

Also, was at the Palm last night, they have a deal right now, for 2 people and $89, you get 2 9oz filet mignions, 2 seafood(lobster tail, shrimp scampi, or crab legs), 2 salads(house or caesar), 2 sides (one is the fried onions and chips, the other your choice), and 2 deserts (I think choices were chocolate molten, key lime pie, and some other one). usually the filets alone would set you back 80, so its a great deal (comparatively) And they didn't try to give you the "cheap stuff" or trash or leftovers or extras or anything second just because you had "the special discount." Now I need to find someone else to go back with again. Had the filet and the lobster tail (is that really a hard choice), with mashed potatoes, a cognac peppercorn sauce, my house salad, and the molten. Per person 45 bucks (plus tip), literally a steal. Not trying to advertise just to spread good news to fellow steak lovers. Its nice when I don't have to spend 250 for 2 people at morton's or ruth chris. :)

At last someone mentioned it, Matsuzaka is absolutely incredible!

After Matsuzaka, would come Kobe, Wakyu and Argentinean meat (gosh how inexpensive the last one is!).

I absolutely love meat, could eat a pound every day, but unfortunately the meat you find here in Switzerland is usually nothing to shout home about.

For those who pass through Paris, there's a place where you can get up to 1 kilo steaks, all meat is Argentinean. I would highly recommend it, but the restaurant is inside a bar with a very "heavy metal" influence (music as well as the clients), hope that doesn't deter you. The place is called Black Dog or something like that...

I had it at the Hilton in Bangkok, it really was incredible. So soft, a rib eye, paid around $200 for 7oz (crikey what a price), but so worth it. I could cut through it with the blunt side of a butter knife, and although Matsuzaka is supposed to be more heavily marbled then Kobe, this particular rib eye was quite free of any marbling, they cut it just right.

Best steak I ever had.

Irish Grass fed beef!^http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/...story39101.asp . It is my first time attempting to post a link, so please excuse if it does not work.

Peter Luger's Steakhouse Brooklyn NY.

Atmosphere: loud and boisterous

Waitstaff: sometimes very rude but knowledgable

Price: High, very high

Menu: limited

Taste: Out of this world.

Shofar

The worlds best beef comes from the Orkney Islands. It has the perfect climate for growing grass and produces stunning results. No matter the breed, the Orkney climate delivers. Anyone who has visited the islands will tell you the same. :cool:

Menu looks great, Im going to try it next time.

While somewhat off the beaten track, Paraguay produces some of the finest beef I have ever tasted. Tender, moist, juicy, with a lovely "beefy" taste of the Chaco to it.......yummy!!!! Also, some of the best sausage I have ever consumed can be found in Paraguay.

Have tried Matsuzaka, Kobe, Hida, the best Australian, Luger, .... and many of the best of the world except Argentinian. My fav? Best is in Korea. Think best Japanese beef with similar marbling but not the fattiness. Stronger taste and firmer texture. Best in Korea is probably Park Dae Gam but Bamboo House might be more accessible for foreigners. Second for me is probably Sostanza in Florence. Third will be any of the best beefs in Japan.

Kobe beef is great, but it does taste good when eaten raw. Raw as in steak tartare. :( I made this mistake when I was visiting Japan few years ago. :(

so my question is: what is the best beef in the world, if you're eating it raw?

best steak experience in a restaurant
 

I also had my best steak in Italy.

I would have to say the best steak experience I have ever had in a restaurant was near Greve just outside Florence in La Cantinetta di Rignana in the very small village of Rignana.

FANTASTIC!

I shared the classic Bistecca Fiorentina with my group, and it was the best steak I have ever experienced. A classic T Bone, (2kg!) and it was cooked over a wood fire, nice and rare. Rare is the classic way to serve it.

It was carved tableside by Guido no less - yes that is his real name.

It was a dry aged steak of Chianina beef, which is getting fairly rare these days.

Serve with a nice drizzle of extra virgin Tuscan olive oil, sea salt and fresh cracked black pepper....

I had a front row seat of the Tuscan countryside, a very nice Tuscan red wine and a beautiful young Tuscan woman dining with me... Wow!

Recording last night's steak for posterity - and an easy lunch if you are coming to SYD anytime.
Kingsleys (aka Steersons)[menu]
Certified Australian Angus Beef (CAAB) - Rib Eye - 150 day grain fed.
Cooking tempterature: Blue
Served with: Red wine jus & potato mash.
(USD$20-40 for most options; expect 20-something for most of them)

Add one of the livelier reds on the wine list (try a Cab Sauv) is a popular match. (Under USD$30/bottle! [list])

Heaven! :p


(Given the fact that most FTers I know enjoy a steak, it's a potential Do / dinner location, looking across Cockle Bay, from King St Wharf :))

The Espiritu Santo beef is indeed excellent! I was able to enjoy some staying in Santo (stayed 10 days or so at the Deco Stop Lodge for some diving, the S S President Coolidge et al), as well as some very nice lobster. They know how to take care of divers...

Some Fijian beef is pretty good - the story is the beef was en route from Argentina to Australia as breeding stock when the ship foundered on a reef. Some local Fijians helped themselves - to the crew, and ate them. They kept the beeves, as well as the herdsman, and today... you eat their tasty progeny. Er, the beef, not the crew or the Fijians.

I also ahve to agree good beef can be found in a number of places - economically in Paraguay, Argentina and Brasil, not at all economically in Matsuzaka beef, mid-priced in Australia, etc.

Botswana - excellent beef and very, very affordable ^
And great country in general :)

Oh man, you guys just wait. They're funneling tonnes of money into genetics research here to create better marbled beef. I don't think it will help local industry as much as they hope it will, but it will help the industry as a whole. Yum yum, Alberta beef....

I would rather they didn't, along with others constantly trying to make sweet corn sweeter. Grass fed Alberta beef = ^^

That is good enough for me!

I will think about eventually organizing a Who Will Be The Next FlyerTalk Member To Post? An OMNI Game LIVE and In Person:Botswana FlyerTalk member gathering sometime in the future, and one night of beef indulgence will be a requirement!

Now I understand better why Precious Romotswe, the owner of the The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency, is so proud of her late father's cattle.

Seriously, reading that series has whetted my interest in visiting Botswana someday.

I haven't had the pleasure of Australian beef, so I can't comment there.

The best beef experiences I've had were in Argentina and the Orkney Islands. Both grass fed, both flavourful and delicious. And never was it overcooked, which was amazing! I like my red meat bloody in the middle. Hell, just walk it through a warm room then put it on a plate :)

Ok I'm not quite that bad, but I do love it nice and rare.

Not the best steak I've ever had, but one of the best I had when I was in Australia last year was a Grassland Rib Eye with chips and a glass of good red wine at Kingsley's in Sydney near CBD. I think it was a lunch deal for about $29AUD. Simple, nice presentation, and satisfying!!

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...-kingsleys.jpg

Kingsley's: http://www.kingsleysauststeak.com.au/

I would join - Botswana beef + Namibian's Windhoek Lager beers = Me happy :D

Have anyone had Mishima beef? I saw it on a food network show and it's said to be one the most expensive beef in the world.

Japan's finest beef shows an interesting range of Japanese beef.

Argentina's beef are great, but the best ones I ate in Sao Paulo (Brazil), in a restaurant named 348. Incredibleeeee

One of the best steaks I've ever had was at The Benjamin in New York City.

I wanted to go to the almighty Peter Luger's but I found it to be such a hassle that you could only book a table by phone at special hours and only pay with cash. I've been to some very swanky Michelin * restaurants but this kind of ruleset makes Peter Lugers far more pretentious than any of those.

Embers in Brooklyn
 

Just had dinner at Embers in Brooklyn, NY
Location is 9519 3rd Avenue.

Filet stuffed with spinach, gargonzola, and bacon.
OMG....fantastic

Hands down less expensive than Peter Lugar's by a mile.

After dinner drinks with the owner, his wife, a NYPD Sargent, and others.
They shared cigars and Grand Marnier... ^

Prime
 

If there is anything in the whole world better than a New York Strip from Lobels on Madison Avenue in New York I have yet to find it. I may go to the poor house buying it but it is the best beef I have ever had and I have spend a lot of time eating steak at home and in restuarants. And to top it off everyone who works there is lovely and they have a branch at Yankee Stadium with awesome steak sandwiches.

wagyu has an odd taste
 

I love a good steak but wagyu, Japanese beef, is so oily it has a very distinct taste all its own and one I personally find disturbing for beef. Also, once cold, you simply cannot make a good sandwich out of kobe or other japanese marbled beef. The oil solidifies and tastes yucky. Japanese beef was cultivated for people who couldn't afford beef once a day and could only enjoy it occasionally on special occasions, so they nurtured a variety that is flavored by fats.

I like a good American chateaubriand.

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Not to go too far off topic but the pork chops from Lobels are good enough to bring tears to my eyes.