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Originally Posted by braslvr
(Post 11147181)
Then by your logic, everyone else should then wait for you to have your food reheated while theirs gets cold. Yes restaurants should try and serve everyone together, but letting your food get cold sitting in front of you is ridiculous IMO.
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 11148286)
I've walked out of restaurants that weren't capable of serving food at the same time. When I go out to eat with my wife, it's so we can eat together. Any chef who can't manage that isn't worthy of the title.
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Originally Posted by braslvr
(Post 11147181)
Yes restaurants should try and serve everyone together, but letting your food get cold sitting in front of you is ridiculous IMO.
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 11149905)
How do you handle restaurants in Asia? My experience is that food not coming out at once is the norm, not the exception.
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Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 11150209)
When you take a member of the opposite sex to dinner and your plate arrives alone, do you eat it all up while she sits and watches?
Other than in the case of special food orders or extra courses for one or more diners, inability to serve courses for all at the table simultaneously is a grievous fault. I won't even accept a total re-do of an unsatisfactorily prepared dish, wanting it removed from the bill (and if we're just two dining, I want the entire bill removed, or at least the full cost of the course for which one example was poorly done). If a few more diners were simply willing to get up and walk out the door, some, no many restaurants would do better. I'm no "Ramsey", but I was a newspaper food critic for 5 years, and have witnessed too much atrocious treatment of folks paying for food to be very tolerant of chefs, kitchens and waitstaff incapable of coordinating service. If there's problem, I want the server (or someone higher up) to come and tell me about it, and act upon my response which will be graduated based on my perception of how it will alter my dining pleasure. |
Originally Posted by slawecki
(Post 11145381)
Most better restaurants in usa and france use infra red heaters. a lot of the pre cooking is done hours earlier. the food is plated in stages, and held in an ir heater until all is ready.
at a tasting dinner, how you think 5 guys get all that food out for 50 people? chefs can organize beautifully. this does not work in italian or most oriental cuisine. the food is prepared from scratch, and ready NOW!!! risotto is going to take 30 min. most kitchens are not big enough to prepare 8 or 10 main courses to be ready at the same time. And yes, much of the key is precooking/staging some of the dishes during the 3-5 o'clock hours so that they only have to be 'finished' as the orders come in. |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 11150209)
When you take a member of the opposite sex to dinner and your plate arrives alone, do you eat it all up while she sits and watches?
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Originally Posted by PSUhorty
(Post 11150788)
I would argue that the very best of the restaurants and chefs do not use IR heaters though.
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Originally Posted by PSUhorty
(Post 11150816)
That is a major faux pa.
For me, an allowable wait would be one for the server to go right back into the kitchen to pick up the remaining plate(s) and return, which should be a proposition lasting not more than 1 to 2 minutes. For non-communal dining, anything more is really not acceptable. |
Originally Posted by PSUhorty
(Post 11150816)
If your date is worth enough to you, I assume you are spending your $$$ at a restaurant that is at least pretty good. Of those restaurants, I would assume that something like this would happen VERY rarely.
Originally Posted by TMOliver
(Post 11150785)
If a few more diners were simply willing to get up and walk out the door, some, no many restaurants would do better. I... have witnessed too much atrocious treatment of folks paying for food to be very tolerant of chefs, kitchens and waitstaff incapable of coordinating service.
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
(Post 11149905)
How do you handle restaurants in Asia? My experience is that food not coming out at once is the norm, not the exception.
Originally Posted by Taiwaned
(Post 11143277)
In many parts of Asia, it is brought over immediately after it is ready. Some times I have finished my food while my wife's meal hasn't even arrived. I just learned to chew slow.
I prefer it this way, then the food is eaten hot instead of "warming" under some lamp in the kitchen so everybody can eat the meal at the same time. Who eats at the same speed anyway? |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 11150209)
When you take a member of the opposite sex to dinner and your plate arrives alone, do you eat it all up while she sits and watches?
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Originally Posted by Peterpack
(Post 11142796)
How important do you think it is for your table to get all its meals at the same time ? let's say a table of 6-8 people, not too big
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Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 11150209)
When you take a member of the opposite sex to dinner and your plate arrives alone, do you eat it all up while she sits and watches?
from reading threads in dining, it appears that the majority of the people eat steak, or "american" food, no matter where. banging out 8 steaks and 8 baked potatoes is a piece of cake. trust me, the potatoes are pre cooked, and usually, so are the steaks. the greatest meals that i have had are either in french countryside 2*'s (or equivalent) where small courses of many different foods just arrived, or almost any italian restaurant where again, food arrived very piecemeal. the same has been true in southeast asian restaurants in london(includes indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani) |
In a non-communal dining situation at a decent restaurant, I would only tolerate about a minute delay: about the time for the server(s) to walk back to the pass and bring back the missing plate(s). Any decent chef or expediter will wait to send out the plates in parallel. Many restaurants will use heat lamps. Some top restaurants will refuse, and instead refire dishes if they sit too long while waiting for a delinquent cook to finish something.
I guess I usually dine at decent Western restaurants, so I can't remember the last time I've experienced this particular problem. |
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