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BamaVol Apr 12, 2011 10:23 am

I had 2 dining experiences lst week that left me wanting. Both were a case of bad timing.

In the first instance, our wineglasses were empty and the plates had long been removed from the table when the bill finally came. I understand the server was very busy (she's also the bartender) but I'd like the bill within a couple minutes of finishing everything. I'll even accept it a little early (still drinking but food is finished).

In the second instance, the server asked if I had room for dessert. "The second half of the steak I'm still eating will do nicely." I said to myself while mentally deducting 5% from the tip.

UALfromMSN Apr 12, 2011 10:46 am

What bothers me is the question "are you still working on that?"

No, I would not call what I'm doing to this meal "work".

jdanton Apr 12, 2011 3:20 pm

How are you enjoying that?

Fredd Apr 12, 2011 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by UALfromMSN (Post 16205139)
What bothers me is the question "are you still working on that?"

No, I would not call what I'm doing to this meal "work".

I don't like that one either. I've also long since tired of "you guys" as a form of address, or the cutesy "you two." :rolleyes:

The morning after returning from a European trip we ate breakfast at a Denny's and obviously cleaned our senior-menu plates. We mentioned to the middle-aged waitress that we'd just returned, and she looked at us and our empty plates and drawled "Didn't they feed you over there?" :D

It was just too funny for me to feel insulted and, after all, it was Denny's. :)

gfunkdave Apr 12, 2011 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by jdanton (Post 16200638)
Restaurants with flash websites.

There, I fixed it. :)

Also see http://theoatmeal.com/comics/restaurant_website.

darthbimmer Apr 12, 2011 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by jdanton (Post 16206790)
How are you enjoying that?

When a server asks me this, or the related, "How is it tasting?" I am tempted to answer, "Orally."

United747 Apr 12, 2011 5:25 pm

It drives me crazy when you are seated and then a minute later the server comes over and asks you what you want for dinner. Give me time to read!!! Also, when plates or glasses are dropped. That noise makes the restaurant look like they cannot train staff to carry dishes.

Delta747

Fredd Apr 12, 2011 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by darthbimmer (Post 16207313)
When a server asks me this, or the related, "How is it tasting?" I am tempted to answer, "Orally."

^ :D Much more straightforward is the Germans' Schmeckt gut?

jcwoman Apr 13, 2011 7:31 am


Originally Posted by jdanton (Post 16206790)
How are you enjoying that?

In a fine French restaurant once the waiter came by and asked my husband, "And how is bambi?"

Actually that's not a peeve because up until that point, the place had a very stuffy uptight atmosphere. At that point we relaxed and enjoyed ourselves more. The same waiter later zipped by and refilled our wine glasses (from the bottle we'd ordered) with the comment "gotta keep an even buzz". His French accent made us ask each other, "did he really just say that?" :D

A real peeve, another time we went to a renowned American fine dining establishment and ten seconds after being seated, the sommelier asked if we would like wine. We hadn't even been handed menus yet.

hedo_traveler Apr 13, 2011 8:31 am

When the big Mac they put in my to go bag looks nothing like the one in their advertisement! :rolleyes:

zoonil Apr 13, 2011 11:59 am


Originally Posted by SQ421 (Post 16160951)
Continuing on to this, a server at an Indian restaurant asking if I'd like some "naan breads" or some "roti breads" to accompany the meal.

No. I'd like a "Naan".

"Naan Bread" sounds like "bread bread"

Naan is a type of bread. While I don't expect the general populace to be aware of that, if you are serving in an Indian restaurant, you better pick that up pretty quick.

Good point.. What to do you say about "Chai Tea Latte" then? That is like saying "tea tea"... since the word for Tea in many Indian languages is "Chai". The Starbucks of the world could have just gone with just Chai or Chai latte at best

SQ421 Apr 13, 2011 9:59 pm

Chai Tea is similarly redundant...

compuser1973 Apr 14, 2011 6:29 am


Originally Posted by zoonil (Post 16211848)
The Starbucks of the world could have just gone with just Chai or Chai latte at best

And most of these chai lattes taste nothing like tea anyway......and IMO pretty lame drinks....

jcwoman Apr 14, 2011 9:11 am

When I ordered a Hefeweissen using the correct pronunciation and the pub waiter corrected me with the wrong pronunciation. Um, whatever dude, just bring me one.

FearFree Apr 14, 2011 2:17 pm

When the dress code for the dining room is collared shirt required, no denim allowed, but you have to walk through the bar to get there, which is full of people (who by 7pm, when our reservations are for, have already gotten blatantly drunk) in shorts and tee shirts.

BamaVol Apr 14, 2011 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by FearFree (Post 16219292)
When the dress code for the dining room is collared shirt required, no denim allowed, but you have to walk through the bar to get there, which is full of people (who by 7pm, when our reservations are for, have already gotten blatantly drunk) in shorts and tee shirts.

I'm reading this wondering what the problem is. :confused:

It'sHip2B^2 Apr 14, 2011 9:30 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 16220683)
I'm reading this wondering what the problem is. :confused:

I think that the issue is that one place has two different dress codes. The conflicting dress brings the "nice" restaraunt down a notch or two.

FearFree Apr 15, 2011 8:05 am

It certainly brings the "nice" place down a notch. When my wife and I go there, we expect to pay ~$100 each plus drinks, but it is like having to navigate through a local dive downtown to get to the seating area.

We having nothing against the downtown local dives, as we go there as well. It's just the fact that we are going to this particular place for its elegance.

darthbimmer Apr 15, 2011 9:55 am


Originally Posted by It'sHip2B^2 (Post 16221353)
I think that the issue is that one place has two different dress codes. The conflicting dress brings the "nice" restaraunt down a notch or two.

In a related vein, I dislike restaurants that basically have two different menus. When they list $6 sandwiches on one page I am not going to believe that they'll do a good job preparing and serving the $35 filet mignon on the opposite page.

Points Scrounger Apr 15, 2011 11:11 am

I, too, find "naan bread" and "chai tea" irritatingly redundant - in the latter case, I've been tempted to inquire if they use genuine " 'pani' water"? Speaking of naan, never was I so boggled as at an Indian restaurant near the Castle in Lisbon, highly touted by a guidebook, where said "naan" bore a striking resemblance to what in the USA would be known as
"English muffins"!

kipper Apr 15, 2011 11:17 am

New one for me--a manager inquiring as to how our food was immediately after the server finished setting the plates on our table. How are we supposed to know how our food tastes, when we haven't had time to take a bite?

Points Scrounger Apr 15, 2011 11:20 am

I'd love that!

"I'll tell you after it gets here!" or "I don't know, we just ordered!"

kipper Apr 15, 2011 11:58 am


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 16224504)
I'd love that!

"I'll tell you after it gets here!" or "I don't know, we just ordered!"

Mr. Kipper's comment after she left was, "I wouldn't know. I haven't had a chance to eat anything yet."

We just said that it looked good. And, I pointed out to our server that he might want to suggest she wait until patrons have had a chance to taste their food before inquiring. :)

crabbing Apr 15, 2011 12:00 pm

naan bread is best enjoyed whilst sipping some chai tea at the la brea tar pits, but it can get crowded so please rsvp.

dd992emo Apr 15, 2011 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by crabbing (Post 16224752)
naan bread is best enjoyed whilst sipping some chai tea at the la brea tar pits, but it can get crowded so please rsvp.

Can you see the Sierra Nevada Mountains from there?

CMK10 Apr 15, 2011 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by dd992emo (Post 16224865)
Can you see the Sierra Nevada Mountains from there?

I always drive Table Mesa Road to get there (a real road located north of Phoenix) :D

PWMFlyer19 Apr 15, 2011 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 16224436)
I, too, find "naan bread" and "chai tea" irritatingly redundant - in the latter case, I've been tempted to inquire if they use genuine " 'pani' water"?

I have a chuckle everytime I see "baby lamb" on a menu...

BamaVol Apr 16, 2011 8:27 am

Beyond redundancy, I find most menu adjectives annoying. I would prefer they stick to facts.

DownTheRappitHole Apr 16, 2011 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 16228587)
Beyond redundancy, I find most menu adjectives annoying. I would prefer they stick to facts.

I'mo not opposed to adjectives but find the morphing of adjectives annoying, eg how everything is now Panko encrusted, despite the breading on a number of the items I've ordered being exactly like the old breading and not particularly panko-ish at all.

BamaVol Apr 16, 2011 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole (Post 16230609)
I'mo not opposed to adjectives but find the morphing of adjectives annoying, eg how everything is now Panko encrusted, despite the breading on a number of the items I've ordered being exactly like the old breading and not particularly panko-ish at all.

They're annoying because most run the gamut from exaggeration to outright lies. And don't get me started on adverbs! :D

kipper Apr 17, 2011 10:11 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 16231969)
They're annoying because most run the gamut from exaggeration to outright lies. And don't get me started on adverbs! :D

:D Oh, the horror!!! :D

sylvia hennesy Apr 17, 2011 11:35 am

"served with au jus sauce"
'nuff said.

hard2please Apr 17, 2011 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by sylvia hennesy (Post 16233926)
"served with au jus sauce"
'nuff said.

Oh, that's one of my all time favorites! Who writes this stuff??

jcwoman Apr 18, 2011 8:53 am


Originally Posted by PWMFlyer19 (Post 16225109)
I have a chuckle everytime I see "baby lamb" on a menu...

Eek, someone who clearly needs a lesson in marketing. I love lamb and will eat it in a heartbeat. But if you call it "baby lamb"... I visualize soft brown eyes and a fuzzy little baby, and... no thanks, I'm no monster! A bit hypocritical maybe, but as I said, it's all about marketing.

dd992emo Apr 19, 2011 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by jcwoman (Post 16237930)
Eek, someone who clearly needs a lesson in marketing. I love lamb and will eat it in a heartbeat. But if you call it "baby lamb"... I visualize soft brown eyes and a fuzzy little baby, and... no thanks, I'm no monster! A bit hypocritical maybe, but as I said, it's all about marketing.

I'm the same way with dolphin. I want real dolphin, dammit! Porpoise! Not some flat, name-stealing fish...

Ancien Maestro May 1, 2011 3:53 pm

Me pet peeve.. having to wait in line at good restaurants.. and knowing its going to be worth it.

wdogg May 4, 2011 1:45 pm

the wait staff can't read my mind so i have to post online about it...

Jazzop May 13, 2011 8:40 am


Originally Posted by elusive1 (Post 15860841)
2. Eclectic restaurants that do not have any standard items on the menu. Very often out of a party of six, one person at least will be someone who has no interest in the eclectic menu. This is more of a suggestion I suppose, but if I were the owner, I would have one old fashioned dish out of every main group. Really hate to push the Goat Ossobuco on Grandpa.

I disagree for two reasons. First, it is your responsibility to choose a restaurant that suits the tastes of your party. This is very easy today, given the availability of menus on the web. Second, the sadist in me rather likes the idea of "punishing" those who have such developmentally retarded palates that they refuse to eat anything other than well-done steak and macaroni & cheese. My best friend's ex-wife was one of those types, and she ruined literally every group dinner outing either by making the process of choosing a restaurant too tedious to be worthwhile or by passive-aggressively sulking when she couldn't find anything by Chef Boyardee on the menu. (Lest anyone think I'm being unreasonable, I'm not talking about restaurants where Andrew Zimmern is taping his show-- just classic Continental or New American, seafood, Japanese, Mediterranean, etc.)


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 15868738)
1. Putting specialty domestic beers under the "Imported" heading.

The problem is not the grouping of the beers, it's the naming of the lists. It should be "Drinkable beers" and "swill". And the pricing should be reversed to punish those who prefer swill.


Originally Posted by emma69 (Post 15869527)
I guess I view brunch somewhat differently then - brunch is what I eat when I was too lazy to get up in time to eat breakfast at the normal time, but can't wait till lunch for food because I am hungry NOW! A nice 'event' brunch (like a wedding brunch, or at a high end hotel where it is their 'thing') is something very different from just 'brunch' which is simply a meal too early to be rightfully lunch, but too late to be 'breakfast' - it is also why I find it odd that places 'start' brunch at 12 noon (defeats the purpose!) I have brunch most weekends, normally in the comfort of my own kitchen!

What? I wouldn't think of going to brunch until maybe 13:00 or later. In fact, I am often one of the last to be seated at brunch, sometimes around 15-16:00. Perhaps this is a NYC thing.


Originally Posted by elusive1 (Post 15889102)
Servers who without asking, top off my coffee. Thus destroying my perfect balance of cream and coffee.

I absolutely hate this, for a slightly different reason as I drink my coffee black. My neko jita requires that my coffee be close to room temperature to be drinkable. In a diner (the only restaurant where I drink coffee during a meal) that usually means that I don't even begin drinking my coffee until I am nearly finished with the main meal. As soon as I get a third of the way down the cup, the server inevitably attempts to top it off with boiling coffee, making the whole thing undrinkably hot again. And since diner coffee is already too thin to begin with, I can't throw an ice cube in it to cool it down.


Originally Posted by JerryFF (Post 15931766)
Adding hot spices without specifying on the menu. Neither my wife or I like, or can tolerate, hot dishes and avoid them when possible. It should not be necessary to have to ask about every item whether it is "hot".

If these dishes are traditionally prepared very spicy, then this is your problem. Don't complain when your vindaloo irritates your hemorrhoids. However, I agree that a surprise application of Scotch Bonnet peppers to a tuna salad warrants some advance notice.


Originally Posted by jdanton (Post 16200638)
Restaurants with flash websites with music, that don't work on mobile platforms.

+1,000,000


And for a few of my own:

1. Wine glasses filled beyond halfway.

2. Dropping off the check before I ask for it. The most insulting instance was receiving the check with the appetizers.

3. Whisking by and plunking a bottle of ketchup on the table sometime between ordering and receiving the meal. Don't insult my good taste by assuming that I am one of those unwashed heathens who put ketchup on anything that contains meat, eggs, and/or potatoes.

4. Failure to check up on me shortly after I receive my entree, in case I have a problem with it or might require something else such as a condiment (but not ketchup!:p).

5. Clearing plates that have utinsels on them and failing to bring replacement utinsels. Also, removing my dirty utinsels from the plate, placing them on the bare table, then clearing the plate.

DillMan May 13, 2011 9:09 am

My peeve would be a waiter that rushes through a ridiculously long list of specials and featured dishes without pausing or observing punctuation.

If a restaurant has 5 specials that alone is a lot of info for a diner to digest (haha!) verbally. When management tells their waitstaff to add a bunch of unnecessary details it is almost impossible to remember what special #1 was by the time the waiter gets to special #5.

For example: "Tonight we have five specials. First we have our signature 8oz filet cut from the most choice meat from our own cattle herd raised by Norwegian refugees descended from French Huguenots that moved to Norway in the late 17th century to build yard ornaments for high ranking Ottomans. That steak is going to come with a side of asparagus raised at our carbon neutral farm in northern Washington state and shipped in via common over the road trucks in blue plastic containers wrapped in 4mil shrink wrap by our fairly compensated farm workers, who live in onsite geodesic domes during the peak growing season. You also get a choice of either our signature macaroni and cheese baked to perfection in recreation Navajo baking bowls at 350degrees in our patented word burning open oven by war vets from Laos or our stunning steamed spinach served on a plate painted with scenes of famous Canadian technological advancements in military aviation from 1963 - May of 1982. Our second special tonight is............." :mad:

BearX220 May 13, 2011 9:15 am


Originally Posted by Jazzop (Post 16379005)
Dropping off the check before I ask for it. The most insulting instance was receiving the check with the appetizers.

Agree, but you'd hate Legal Seafoods then... IIRC you get the check right when you order. Hate that.


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