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GatorAir Mar 19, 2013 6:41 am

When bartenders grab their smartphone every 30 seconds to text their bf/gf (or anyone for that matter).

wrp96 Dec 13, 2013 6:57 pm

Why oh why must waiters drop lemon slices directly into water glasses unless you've specifically asked for lemon?

Can't stand lemon in most drinks and once again had to ask for a new glass of water after the waiter dropped the slice directly in the water.

jologolf212 Dec 16, 2013 10:41 am

If you are going to offer up a substitute wine because the you no longer hate the one I ordered, tell me how much the other bottle is.
If you do suggest a substitute, don't offer up a bottle that cost significantly more than the one I ordered.

KevinDTW Dec 17, 2013 7:28 am


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 20436615)
Exactly. I have asked to be moved in such circumstances, and on the rare occasion when I am offered resistance by the server, maitre 'd or manager, I have said, "Fine, then we'll be leaving." I should note, too, that we only go to restaurants where such nuisances are neither expected nor should be tolerated. In a so-called "family restaurant," this would be the luck of the draw. However, we avoid such establishments like plague.

Yes -- I have no problem telling them (politely, of course) where I'm going to sit instead of just taking whatever they want to give me.

ILuvParis Dec 17, 2013 7:31 am


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 21962753)
Why oh why must waiters drop lemon slices directly into water glasses unless you've specifically asked for lemon?

Can't stand lemon in most drinks and once again had to ask for a new glass of water after the waiter dropped the slice directly in the water.

Or worse - cucumber! :rolleyes:

wrp96 Dec 17, 2013 8:12 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 21980417)
Or worse - cucumber! :rolleyes:

Basically anything. Ask before dropping it directly into the drink.

Ancien Maestro Dec 18, 2013 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 21980664)
Basically anything. Ask before dropping it directly into the drink.

Bartender style? Better tips?

What else can you do to a drink as a bartender for extra bucks?

VivoPerLei Oct 17, 2014 7:54 am

Dining pet peeves
 
Searched and couldn't find a thread. Self-explanatory, I think. A few minor irritants:

1. Restaurants that don't honor their posted prices. Happened to me yesterday after I ordered. Cashier: "Sorry, prices have gone up (20%) this week and we haven't replaced the board yet." Me: "Wonderful. Have a good day."

2. Rushed to turn over a table after ordering the full tasting menu with wine pairings (Zuma Dubai).

3. Parents that don't control their children in restaurants (flame away).

4. Being overcharged for drinks

KevinDTW Oct 17, 2014 8:16 am

Servers who hold your water glass by the rim while filling it -- "thanks -- can I have a straw please?"

Suggested tips based on the total price of the meal including tax.

When a restaurant is not very crowded I don't want a table right next to another group of people, and it's tiresome to be offered the less-desireable tables first.

VivoPerLei Oct 17, 2014 8:56 am


Originally Posted by KevinDTW (Post 23691905)
When a restaurant is not very crowded I don't want a table right next to another group of people, and it's tiresome to be offered the less-desireable tables first.

No kidding. I felt like I was on intimate terms with the couple next to me at Simpsons after dining. So close that there was no way to tune any of the conversation out, and they weren't even talking loudly.

stut Oct 17, 2014 9:09 am

Bad service because neither of you drink alcohol.

Asking for some sparkling water for yourself, and finding yourself with a thimbleful of overpriced mineral water, due to everybody else on the table being served it unrequested.

Having specials read out and not written down anywhere. What was that, red peppers or black pepper - ah, can't remember now.

Obtrusive table decorations. You know, I'm rather fond of my wife - I quite like looking at her...

Restaurants that pride themselves in using the most obscure terms for the food they're serving. Yes, I know that 'Gloucestershire Old Spot' is pork, but you're a restaurant in a tourist area, and every item on your menu is like that.

"We'll bring everything out as it's ready." OK for quick-serve sharing-food type places, irritating anywhere else.

KevinDTW Oct 17, 2014 9:20 am


Originally Posted by stut (Post 23692165)
Having specials read out and not written down anywhere. What was that, red peppers or black pepper - ah, can't remember now...

+1 And a related issue: servers who don't write down the order. No matter how many people are at the table. I'm not impressed that you think you can remember everyone's order and requests -- just write it down so there's no misunderstandings, OK?

CMK10 Oct 17, 2014 9:53 am

Trying to force me into the bar.

I went to dinner in New Orleans last Sunday. I had called and confirmed the restaurant closed at 11. I arrived with my Father at 9:15 PM and was told they stopped serving tables at 10 so we'd have to sit in the bar. It didn't really matter to us dining wise but it's still annoying.

United747 Oct 17, 2014 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by KevinDTW (Post 23692223)
+1 And a related issue: servers who don't write down the order. No matter how many people are at the table. I'm not impressed that you think you can remember everyone's order and requests -- just write it down so there's no misunderstandings, OK?

As long as they don't get my, or other, orders wrong they can write it or not.

Cassie55 Oct 18, 2014 11:02 am

I'm fairly laid back about most things but I hate it when the waiter starts clearing plates when not everyone has finished.

It seems to happen frequently in the US and really annoys me.

wrp96 Oct 18, 2014 5:52 pm

I know I've mentioned this one previously, it's bad enough when they don't listen when I say no lemon with my water please, but why oh why must they insist on dropping it in the glass instead of putting it on the edge, where I can at least pull it off?:mad:

kipper Oct 18, 2014 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 23698460)
I know I've mentioned this one previously, it's bad enough when they don't listen when I say no lemon with my water please, but why oh why must they insist on dropping it in the glass instead of putting it on the edge, where I can at least pull it off?:mad:

In some cases, it's because they didn't slice it a bit, and in others, it may be that they used tongs to fish it out of the bin so they didn't need to touch it.

BamaVol Oct 19, 2014 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by Cassie55 (Post 23697095)
I'm fairly laid back about most things but I hate it when the waiter starts clearing plates when not everyone has finished.

It seems to happen frequently in the US and really annoys me.

Or asking about dessert when someone is still working on their entree. :mad:

dchristiva Oct 20, 2014 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by Cassie55 (Post 23697095)
I'm fairly laid back about most things but I hate it when the waiter starts clearing plates when not everyone has finished.

It seems to happen frequently in the US and really annoys me.

Totally agree with this one. DON'T clear plates until everyone is done. That's an easy service standard.

ILuvParis Oct 20, 2014 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 23706689)
Totally agree with this one. DON'T clear plates until everyone is done. That's an easy service standard.

I'd rather have the plates cleared haphazardly than having them not picked up, at all. We were at a restaurant the other evening - pre theater - and asked for the check before we were completely finished so that we could pay and get out of there on time in case she was busy when we needed to go. She brought the check and then left the dirty plates on the table, even though we had more time than we had thought and lingered a bit after we finished. So, we got to talk over dirty plates. Nice. Not.

jewels421 Oct 20, 2014 3:12 pm

I'm not as fussed about clearing plates while others are eating. But, I absolutely hate it when servers clear my wine glass (or drink) when there are still a few sips left in it. Having to stop a server from clearing my not-yet-empty drink is really annoying -- even if it's only two sips, I probably still wanted to finish it.

CMK10 Nov 24, 2014 12:11 pm

The snotty, passive aggressive notes on this menu rubbed me the wrong way. If I want to split a check, I should be allowed to...it's my money:

http://cmk10.smugmug.com/Travel/Flye...1124_002-L.jpg

VivoPerLei Nov 24, 2014 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 23890689)
The snotty, passive aggressive notes on this menu rubbed me the wrong way. If I want to split a check, I should be allowed to...it's my money:

Geez, that's ridiculous

United747 Nov 24, 2014 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 23890689)
The snotty, passive aggressive notes on this menu rubbed me the wrong way. If I want to split a check, I should be allowed to...it's my money:

Do I read that right? Is it saying that if you use a coupon, they'll add the 20% gratuity? That, along with gratuity for split checks and tables of four or more, would get me to not come back and actively complain. Those are all ridiculous.

CMK10 Nov 24, 2014 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by United747 (Post 23891477)
Do I read that right? Is it saying that if you use a coupon, they'll add the 20% gratuity? That, along with gratuity for split checks and tables of four or more, would get me to not come back and actively complain. Those are all ridiculous.

You read it right indeed. I mentioned to the server that my dining companion and I needed split checks and she said "I could add the gratuity but I'm betting you guys will tip me more than the 20%".

Shame their location, space and food are great. Makes me want to go back besides the obnoxiousness.

CitizenWorld Nov 25, 2014 6:23 am

When waiters write my tip on the bill rather than allowing me to do so. That almost invariably gets the number reduced.

ryanthekiwi Nov 27, 2014 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by CitizenWorld (Post 23894797)
When waiters write my tip on the bill rather than allowing me to do so. That almost invariably gets the number reduced.

Do you mean with a pen or just the "auto-grat" that some restaurants use?

CitizenWorld Nov 27, 2014 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by ryanthekiwi (Post 23907737)
Do you mean with a pen or just the "auto-grat" that some restaurants use?

With the pen, the auto-grat is fine as long as it's set by the restaurant usually aligning with the regional standard. The electronic ones are usually advertised by sign IME and I've not seen an unreasonable one yet.

iluv2fly Nov 29, 2014 2:21 am

I went to a restaurant and the bill was around 13.00. I gave the waiter a twenty dollar bill.

"Do you want any change back?"

Seriously!!!???

ILuvParis Dec 5, 2014 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by iluv2fly (Post 23913412)
I went to a restaurant and the bill was around 13.00. I gave the waiter a twenty dollar bill.

"Do you want any change back?"

Seriously!!!???

Your reputation (as a big tipper) precedes you. ;)

United747 Dec 5, 2014 10:20 pm


Originally Posted by stut (Post 23692165)
Bad service because neither of you drink alcohol.

1,000,000% agree! I was just talking with my dad about this. Neither of us actively drink and we had dinner at Gibson's in Rosemont, IL last week. We didn't order alcohol, but the server was fantastic throughout. We didn't even order steaks (it's a steakhouse) and the guy was amazing. I tipped him accordingly because my service shouldn't depend on anything that I order. If I get a hamburger or the Australian lobster, my service should be about the same.

wrp96 Nov 10, 2015 11:48 am

Waiters that don't pay attention to "special" orders and think it is no big deal. At lunch on Sunday, I ordered decaf coffee with my meal (such a special order I know:rolleyes: ). Well the ditz we had as a waitress didn't think it mattered if I got regular or decaf, and because she didn't want to wait for a pot of decaf to brew brought me regular. Unfortunately, she only admitted this after I called the restaurant to complain because I suffered the after effects of getting caffeine (and that's the only place it could've happened).

Yes, I know that these days everybody is a precious princess and need gluten free, dairy free, GMO free, etc but it is not the wait staffs duty to determine which issues are real and which ones are fake. Either handle the request as asked or let the customer know they can't be accommodated.

Proudelitist Nov 10, 2015 4:32 pm

Lately it seems there is an increasing trend towards making the guest do more work. It started way back with fast food places making you fill your own cup.

But now, here in San Diego, amidst all the hipster start-up/craft beer places it is getting outright annoying. It is common now to go into a place and seat yourself, then look at a menu, then have to get up and order it from the bar. It's also common that a place without a license to actually serve food establishes a partnership with a nearby place and makes your order delivery from there for you to get served, so you have to use your smart phone and figure it out. Much of this is to avoid having to hire waitstaff. Throw in the trend toward "communal tables" and many places around here are turning into county fair type experiences. The bearded/plaid crowd seems to like it..but if I am a patron and giving an establishment money, they should serve me. Here is my money, I am out. It's all on you now...cook it, bring it to me. I am not filling my own cup, not getting out of my seat to fight for the bartenders attention so I can order your damn charcuterie, and I am not sharing a table with the smelly man-bun guy in Toms and his 1 month old baby. Take my money, serve me. That's the deal.

The other thing is the over performing water boy. I thank you for keeping an eye on my water, but I don't need you by every 5 minutes to fill my glass that's only had a third of the water taken from it.

braslvr Nov 11, 2015 1:04 am


Originally Posted by DrDiarrhea (Post 25693953)
Lately it seems there is an increasing trend towards making the guest do more work. It started way back with fast food places making you fill your own cup.

But now, here in San Diego, amidst all the hipster start-up/craft beer places it is getting outright annoying. It is common now to go into a place and seat yourself, then look at a menu, then have to get up and order it from the bar. It's also common that a place without a license to actually serve food establishes a partnership with a nearby place and makes your order delivery from there for you to get served, so you have to use your smart phone and figure it out. Much of this is to avoid having to hire waitstaff. Throw in the trend toward "communal tables" and many places around here are turning into county fair type experiences. The bearded/plaid crowd seems to like it..but if I am a patron and giving an establishment money, they should serve me. Here is my money, I am out. It's all on you now...cook it, bring it to me. I am not filling my own cup, not getting out of my seat to fight for the bartenders attention so I can order your damn charcuterie, and I am not sharing a table with the smelly man-bun guy in Toms and his 1 month old baby. Take my money, serve me. That's the deal.

The other thing is the over performing water boy. I thank you for keeping an eye on my water, but I don't need you by every 5 minutes to fill my glass that's only had a third of the water taken from it.

Yeah, I'm guilty. Actually I do like that basic principle the majority of the time when I eat out. Casual cool. When I do want the full sit-down experience, there is never any shortage of options.

KevinDTW Nov 11, 2015 11:12 am


Originally Posted by DrDiarrhea (Post 25693953)
...and I am not sharing a table with the smelly man-bun guy in Toms and his 1 month old baby.

Needed to see this again. And your screen name. :D

mjcewl1284 Nov 12, 2015 2:04 am

Recently, I've noticed a lot of restaurants using the phrase Market Price, or some variation of this on items that have limited quantities. If I want that, then I need to ask how much it costs, which is 1- unnecessary imo and 2- people sitting within earshot of me with my wife may jump to unwarranted conclusions about me (of the "cheapskate" variety) and undue pressure on my wife. Who knows, maybe the oysters on the half shell listed cost $100. I don't know because it's not printed on the menu.

"We just have Bud Light, Miller Lite, Heineken, mass produced beer A and mass produced beer B on tap, everything else is in bottles."

Servers who have no idea on how to recommend a wine pairing with a main course, but do anyways. This is shockingly creeping into higher end establishments where they think it's unnecessary to pay a sommelier to be on their staff.

CMK10 Dec 20, 2015 7:41 am

When I ask to substitute something, don't tell me you can't do it, just find a way to do it and charge me.

Last night I was at a Thai restaurant and I asked for drunken noodles with duck. It wasn't on the menu but I was willing to pay whatever upcharge they wanted. I work in a restaurant and they had the same point of sale system we use, I knew there was an "OPEN INFO" button under which you can enter whatever information you want but the waitress first told me it wasn't possible, then said she'd go ask for me. Thankfully, they eventually agreed to do it, but I think their thought process should be about saying yes rather than no.

United747 Dec 20, 2015 8:07 am

Backstory: I'm a Morton's VIP member. Last night I went to Morton's and got a server I've had before. She acknowledged my VIP status and even recognized me yet she still went through the whole menu and specials in painstaking detail. Also, any time a dish was mentioned, she would go into great detail about what was in it.

I wanted to gouge my eyes out.

I love it when they say, "Welcome back Mr. United747. I'm sure you know the menu quite well, but would you like a refresher on anything?"

roberino Dec 4, 2019 1:50 pm

And my pet hate in restaurants is...
 
Waiters that don't look around the restaurant as they're moving through it. I have been trying to get someone's attention for 20 minutes as my wine glass has been empty that long. I have seen waiter after waiter stride through the dining room of the restaurant I'm in with blinkers on, apparently in total ignorance of 95% of the customers in their workplace. I'm now p****d off and that will be reflected in my tip, so it's only themselves they're hurting (and me a little, IIH). If they had attended to me when my glass was empty I would have spent more, been more satisfied, and therefore tipped a higher percentage of a larger bill.

Do they not teach this in the first week of waiter university?* I hope they all read FT to learn their lesson.* I should be treated better than this!*





*Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

kennycrudup Dec 4, 2019 2:44 pm

Fear not; it's a certainty that they'll then come around when you're in the middle of an energetic conversation or when your mouth is full of food and half the plate is eaten, to ask the badly-timed "How's everything going here?" question :rolleyes: I swear they teach this behavior during training.


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