Ah... so how much does offsite storage at a FTers place of abode run you per month...???? :p

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Well I hope not too many bottles :eek: :p

Now that I thought @ it... they might be @ more then one FTer's place... :o

I've taken some Rosemount Mountain Blue (2000) shiraz to FTers from my cellar; to someone staying at the Sheraton in Sydney and also to the kaukaus when we were in the Hawaii Prince, along with them, for our dinner in Honolulu. ^

I'll bring some to our dinner this Friday with some other Hawaiians, due here any time now. Wine is meant to be enjoyed with friends and I'm happy to crack open a bottle for these visits. :)

We've cellared these at home for maybe 5yrs, so it's good timing to enjoy our '00 vintage.

Some also made it to BEY, hopefully, from a dinner a few years ago, too.

I disagree with this. IMHO, young top-tier ageworthy wines that are put on an inert gas preservation system improve for at least 2-3 days, and often as long as 4-5 days if the wine really needed to be open for a few hours to open up. Obviously, if a we're talking with a wine with 10-20 years of bottle age on it, drinking it sooner is better, but most better restaurant wine lists are full of things like 4-5 year old red Bordeaux and recent vintages of California Cabs or Burgundies, or similar quality stuff from other places - but it's mostly current releases - and all of these wines could use a bit of exposure to air. If I'm drinking a 5 year old classified growth Bordeaux, or a 3-4 year old California Cabernet or Argentine Malbec, or Aussie Shiraz, I'd prefer to drink it after it was on a gas system for 2 days, as opposed to 2 hours. It would certainly be nice to know about how long it had been opened if that info was available - but my issue with most restaurant wine lists, particularly those laden with top-notch reds, is that the wines are served too young, and without enough airing. Putting a bottle on an inert gas system that might last 2-5 days in a typical restaurant setting when served by the glass actually improves this situation - sometimes noticeably.

I think Bern's has the largest wine list in the country. 500,000 bottles I believe is their rough estimate.

adding in:

03/06 Delas Hermitage Les Bessards
00/97 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape
2006 M. Chapoutier Ermitage l'Ermite
2006 M. Chapoutier Ermitage Le Pavillon

after a recent move, I uncovered a 1961 Latour......I can't even remember when I bought the darn thing, however, since the find, I can assure everyone that it will be consumed with a fine steak quickly followed by a stoogie.....either that or taken to my fine wine dealer for sale by consignment.

Nice..... was it stored in a cellar...??? Please do post your TNs once you open it... :D ^

Nice Thread!
 

Wish I found this thread earlier....

Being a Franco-oenophile (esp. 1er Cru Classe Bordeaux), my cellar is especially strong in verticals of the Pauillac duo "La-La"s...all bottles are inventoried and stored at a local full-service cellar Vinfolio - www.vinfolio.com

Some examples of the Chateaux I follow:

Latour - 78, 79, 82, 83, 86, 88, 89, 90, 92-05;
Lafite - 76, 79, 82, 85, 86, 90, 94-05;
Margaux - NV (for rarity of collection, never for drinking), 82, 83, 85, 90, 93, 96, 00, 03;
Ducru-Beaucaillou - 76, 78, 79, 83, 85, 88, 93-97, 98, 00, 03;
Pichon-Baron - 86, 90, 96, 98, 00, 03;
Leoville Las Cases - 93, 97, 98, 00, 03;
Leoville Barton - 88, 90, 93-96, 98, 00, 01, 03.....

Of course there's the Hermitage/Cornas/CdP....

Chapoutier La Sizeranne - 90, 92, 93-98, 00, 03, 04;
Jaboulet Aine La Chapelle - 90, 94-98, 00, 03.....

i guess i do not understand. do you own all these, or do you follow these?

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How does one follow a wine if you dont own any.....?

I figured that the most efficient storage of wine is in boxes, hence I got
2007 Zeta Montepulciano d’Abruzzo
2007 Concha y Toro
2006 Roodeberg

picked up a couple bottles of the 2006 Sassicaia - anyone here pop open one of these yet?

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The same family makes wines in Patagonia...

Did you love the earlier stuff? Like 3-4 years ago? I bet you'll love the 2006. ;)

do you follow music, art, authors? you follow wine the same way.

that list had about 100 wines on it. what does one follow? price? availability? follow on reviews?

i have cases or half cases of about 10 of the Bordeaux(or equivalent) in the cellar. most are 88,89, and 90. i have a couple dozen different 1-6 bottle chunks of 87-90 big label cabs.

and i have about 50-100 other mix and match bottles that are recognizable. i don't know where they are buried, and do not know when or where i acquired them.

i do not have the slightest idea what to follow.

cellar holds 1800-2000 bottles, and varies about 1-2 degrees F, between summer and winter.

follow what you like. i enjoy spanish reds from Jumilla and Priorat so i follow a few wineries from there. by follow i mean i buy their wines every year, taste them, save them and generally keep an eye on what they're up to. you could build a vertical of what you like, or just watch some wineries who you've had success with in the past, buying as you see fit. return to the art/music/literature analogy..

Forgive the impertinent question... but what is the current market rate for a 2006 Sassicaia...?

100-120€ here in Italy

This is always an inspiring thread.

For those of you with verticals: how much do the tastings affect your attitude to the rest of that vertical?
Would you be inclined to sell/trade if it's not up to your expectation (or sell for a nice profit if it's exceptional)?

I tend to buy by the case, of wines I enjoy through tasting, but generally don't buy every vintage in order to begin or maintain a vertical line.

Ergo, my decision process is much simpler. ;)

I personally believe that each vintage differs, so one bad vintage out of six good ones won't affect my perception that much. Of course I take into account any changes in winemaker, blend, and vineyard source too. A string of bad wines (in my opinion) might give me pause, but since I taste each wine before I buy for my verticals, I feel that I already know how good it is.

for someone in the business, or someone extremely interested in wine, a subscription to

http://www.wine-searcher.com/

pro version is quite worth while.

Mi Amigo. High $160's - almost $200... and so not worth it.

Gracias Dan..... thats quite high but in all honesty not as expensive as I thought... these days prices are ALL nuts..... :rolleyes:

It's no 1985.

Hmmm, just found this thread.

Top 5 in my cellar are:

1947 Petrus
1961 Pape Clement
1968 Vega Sicilia Unico
1988 Yquem
2000 Margaux

I've tasted all but the Petrus, and right now the Vega is at the top.

Impressive list.... Im a 68 vintage myself, so I was wondering how that vintage was overall in Spain... I cant say Ive had much Bordeaux that was any good from that year.

cool thread! Just had our 'last' family thanksgiving and between me, my parents, and family we decided to just cut loose with some bottles. My brother just graduated culinary school so we tasked him with cooking and over three nights openend some right good plonk.

off the top of my head
mine:
1975 Riussec
1988 Riussec
1983 Vieux Telegraphe
2006 GoldDigger Cabernet
2007 GoldDigger Pinot Noir
parents:
1988 Yquem
1970 Marguax (wines dead but pretty label)
dbl mag of 1978 Petrus (ohhhhh man)
1968-1972 Vertical of Domaine Armand Rousseau, Gevrey Clos St Jacques

Still building my personal cellar, hey I am only 25!, My personal favorites right now are my brand spanking new four cases of 2007 Rhones. Hopefully they will be great, but its personal as my wife and I got engaged on a trip there where we got to watch some of of the 2007 harvest.

Turns out, they no longer offer Krug by the class. It was replaced by...Louis Roederer Cristal. Price is 40€ per class.

CX tries to give me Krug by the glass, but I generally persuade them to do it by the bottle :)

Sadly most airlines have stopped serving Krug (understandably so given the recent pricing), but now even bars? Presuming 3 glasses per bottle, that isn't a bad price for Cristal (but I rather suspect HEL is 5 glasses per bottle; hellish indeed ... maybe SIN does better?).

Has SQ also dropped Krug from F...?????

8 oz pours??

although reidel claims some 11.5 oz flutes, most are 9-10 oz.

Just grabbed four more bottles of the 2005 Don Melchor :D Really excited! Also snagged a couple of 2000 Leoville Las Cases to hold onto till 2015 or so.

68 was a fabulous year in Spain. Also extremely good in California Cabernet. Bordeaux, on the other hand, had one of its worst years in history.

some recent acquisitions:

1981 Beaucastel
1981 D'Yquem
1981 Mouton
1981 Cheval Blanc
1981 Musar
1981 Pichon-Lalande
1990 Château Léoville Poyferré

the '81s are being opened for my 30th bday next February...:)

I would have guessed at least 45-50. :eek:

No screwing around, eh? I've only had the Beau. Loved it. ^

*ahem*

My invite to the party is in the mail? :p

not really for my cellar....
 

But for my Children...... Daughter is 2009 vintage, Son is 2007.

Chacra 32 Pinot Noir 2009 - 18 bottles
Chacra 55 Pinot Noir 2009 - 12 bottles
Noemia Malbec 2009 - 12 bottles
Salon Cuvee S 2009 - 06 bottles
Mainque Merlot 2009 - 12 bottles
Angelica Zapata Malbec Alta 2009 - 12 bottles
Yacochuya Rolland 2009 - 12 bottles

Matilde Lamadrid Single Vineyard Malbec 2007 - 12 bottles
Yacochuya Rolland 2007 - 12 bottles
Nicolas Catena Zapata 2007 - 18 bottles
Escorihuela Gascon Malbec DON 2007 - 12 bottles
Felipe Rutini 2007 - 12 bottles
Catena Zapata Estiba Reservada 2007 - 48 bottles