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so does anybody here share my fetish for large formats for cellaring favorite wines...?

Are you talking formats like magnums or something larger? Jeroboams? :D

I'm only cellaring some Hunter semillon for 20+yrs; nothing red.

What size and what ageing potential are you talking about at your end?

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As much as I like the large stuff, I dont have anything larger than 3 liters in my cellar at this point.

Gaucho, do you call your 3L a double magnum or a jeroboam - or something else?

I normally use the 'easy to understand' double magnum designation..... but if I want to get fancy I will use the more 'technical' terms, depending on what type of bottle we are talking about... Bordeaux, Burgundy, Champagne... etc. etc..... :D

Update to add a new entry to my personal cellar.....

2005 Benegas Lynch FBL Barrica
Only 600 bottles of this wine were made, a blend of Cabernet Franc, Merlot and Petit Verdot - aged in French Oak for 24 months, made from super old vines from the Upper Mendoza Riverbank.

Krug vintage 1988(im not a krug fan thats why its still there):rolleyes:
Dom 1993 1996 1998 1999 2000:)
Penfolds 707 yrs 99 98 97
not a fan of keeping wines
like to enjoy them

Am just seeing this thread for the first time and I missed the DO! Darn.

These (and several cases of other tasty, enjoy now, tonight, with dinner bottles) are what is around at the moment. But that could change at any time.

97 and 99 Ridge Monte Bello
02 and 03 Caymus Cab
04 Cavallotto Barolo Bricco Boschis
05 La Bernardine Chateauneu Du Pape
04 Chappellet Cab
04 Lascombes Margaux Grand Cru
04 LAN Culmen Reserva Rioja
05 The Colonial Estate Explorateur Shiraz
04 Amber Knolls 1975 Cab
04 Ridge Geyserville Zin
Plus some Rudd, Hansom and William Hill Cab & Penley Estate

Caymus Conundrum
99 Stonier Reserve Chardonnay (golden liquid)

77 Dow
92 Fonseca
95 Quinta do Vesuvio

I drank all the rest and saved some of the labels.

Is there another DO planned?

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88 is one of the great Krugs... I suggest you consider swapping it with someone that is a fan and procuring something you will enjoy more... :D

Of course there is. :o

Wine Do 3 will be in June 2010, following the 10th annual BRT (see link below). Last year, a few of us met in NYC to in the fall to enjoy the grape at a BYO place. Hopefully you're not that far upstate, and you can come down. I think you can twist the arms of cordelli, sbm12, and me, to make this happen.

There are also rumo(u)rs of a West Coast Wine Do sometime in October/November ;)

Take it up with my travel planner. :p
You're more than welcome to join us Oct 22 23 24 for dinner in Napa/Sonoma.

We can always find room at the table for one or two more. :cool:

I'm hoping to. Mike gave me the heads up and I might be bringing someone :)

I hope Malbec is properly represented at this next event... ;)

If any of you travel east to WAS, please let me know. I'm a part of a couple wine clubs that have monthly events. They're always fun, and a great way to try new stuff.

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How do these events work...?

Damn! I'm going to be in Australia that week!

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Originally Posted by kathycali
Is there another DO planned?

"Of course there is.

Wine Do 3 will be in June 2010, following the 10th annual BRT (see link below). Last year, a few of us met in NYC to in the fall to enjoy the grape at a BYO place. Hopefully you're not that far upstate, and you can come down. I think you can twist the arms of cordelli, sbm12, and me, to make this happen. "
.......
OK, thanks; that works for me. I'm twisting. Train rides can be fun and I'll bring a bottle or two of whatever is in the cellar at the time. k

Boo! I am going up there for that week!

Through an online wine forum (forums.winelibrary.com), there is a group of us in DC that meet (usually monthly) at a local restaurant. Each Thursday a restaurant in Cleveland Park has free corkage, so we set a theme and then each person/couple brings a bottle that fits that theme. The dinners are pretty laid back and we have a great time.

We have a more serious dinner coming up on 9/12 where we've hired a chef to put together a tasting menu that fits the bottles we're bringing. Should be great!

Good place to buy some Amon Ra Shiraz.... :D

'86 Chateau Margaux
A few super tuscans and vintage champagnes. (can't remember specifics -- just moved so everthing is still boxed away)

where can i buy really expensive stuff by glass/ounce? any of the FT DOs? :D

Berns Steakhouse in Tampa has a wine list a mile long that offers this option.

Next time you fly through HEL, stop by at the Wine & View bar in Terminal 2.

For example, this week they have 1970 Château Grand Listrac and 1975 Château La Fourvieille available by the glass.

They also have Krug by the glass, which is nice.

Full list is available online.

€/4cl Weeks 35
€22 1981 Château Mouton-Rothschild (Pauillac)
€24 1979 Château Latour (Pauillac)

$/1.35oz
$31.44 ($23.29/oz)
$34.30 ($25.40/oz)

awesome, thanks hermanni. ^

dhammer53, thanks, but highest price on that menu = $21 = cheap

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wine by the glass is always suspect... half bottles were made for a reason... and that is perhaps why they make Mouton in smaller formats.....

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and how do they vouch for proper wine service for these wines at this fine establishment...?

Mi Amigo.

Berns is famous for their wine cellar. Their name is their reputation.

Gaucho100K, how common are half bottles of mouton? any lafite, latour, margaux?

They are available... you may have to special order them, but its not impossible if you have the right Wine Merchant. Most big name Chateaus will have odd-sized bottlings... Im quite sure Mouton and Lafite do them every vintage. Check with your merchant for details.

Well... if you endorse them then that is saying a lot... but, IMHO if I were you and you were in the market for some of the high-end wines by the glass at this place, it would be interesting for the Sommeliere to explain (in detail) what their SOP regarding high-end juice by the glass is... and I reiterate, in detail... ;)

In my book, no high-end and/or full service place should be caught dead with an opened bottle that is longer than 12 hours old** - no matter how sophisticated any vacuum or inert gas preservation system is.

(**) unless this is part of a very specific double-decant scheme, etc. etc.

12 hours old? you mean left open for 12 hours?

first time i had grange was out of an enomatic. amazing stuff, and bottle later was basically the same. but im no expert.

I can add a +1 to this recommendation, that place is very interesting and a great way to pass some time in HEL.

Gaucho,

If I were Berns bound, and not buying a bottle of wine with dinner, you know me well enough to know that I would ask for a new bottle to be opened for my 3 oz pour. ;)

let us presuming the wine is ready upon opening and decanting. i would really like to have a group of "distinguished" experts blind taste fresh opened and say 2 day old inert gas preserved.

i think bern's offers about 100 wines by the glass. only a couple get over $35 shelf price. i see no first or second bordeaux, few top CA cabs, and only 1 or 2 wines that would be hard to find. even those hard to find (the 70 pauillac) i could easily find a few acceptable substitutes in my cellar.

a few years back, i went to harry's bar in paris. they had opened a hermitage and cote roti. also had two firsts open. i think lafite and latour. they were sort of the high end wines of the day(it was lunch time)

When we went to Montalcino, the local bars would ask us what we wanted opened next after one of the bottles ran out. they had about 3 or 4 brunello open at a time. the "castle" must have had 50 or so open, and would provide a tasting of each distinct micro area of brunello. i could not tell the difference.

in bologna, there enoteca Marsalla will have about 15 premium reds from pretty much everywhere in italy open for by the glass. when you drink the number of open bottles down to 10, they will open anything you request(from italy).

Lovely examples, and I dont dispute that many places do this.... still, that does not mean that the practice is 'best practice'. And yes, I can assure you that someone with the right palate will tell the difference.

Someone with a very 'basic' palate and relatively little experience (ie. my own) can tell this more often than not (yes, Ive been know to miss a few)... :o

Not to brag, but I would never dare lead a tasting event using opened bottles... in my book, its a huge faux-pas to not have a new bottle opened for each new tasting, its a matter of proper etiquette. But... as the saying goes, to each his own... ^

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lets get back to top wines....

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Well... Mine are all @ another FTers house... :p

And not too impressive, but I'm happy with them- picked up in WA @ SEADOO :D