We have the very same problem here in the States - you have to travel far and wide to get a decent bagel these days.

Have you ever tried a Turkish Simit - they're really wonderful if hot. I'm really lucky because my neighbor makes them at home, but it's worth a trip to Istanbul to try them.

uk1,

On your next visit to NYC, I'd be happy to take you to bagel stores that you'll never hear about in guidebooks. ;) :p

dh

Done! Thanks!

Oh you just reminded me of working nights in Hackney! Someone would always go on a bagel run at around 530/6 am!

Working in Hackney ...... ! Surely you went up to Stamford Hill for the bagels?

Does anyone else recall onion platzels? I confess I use to take the onions out of the others and pile them into mine .......

No it was definitely Brick lane for the bagels. I was working at the Homerton hospital in A&E in the early 90s and if it was busy (as it usually was) often the police would do a bagel run for us!

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You made me realize how fortunate I am. There are two places that make their own, plus another place that gets good ones delivered every morning; all within a 10 minute walk from my house. Not the "best" around but quite good.

What a lot we have in common .... apart from Homerton Hospital that is .... I suspect A+E was a touch busy:D

Use to live at Barbican then Tottenham and I see you're currently west country .... well at this moment I'm looking at the waves lashing Goodrington and Brixham and contemplating the 303 back to Hampshire.

My favourite was the bagel place in Vallance Road. My recollection was that there wasn't a shop service as such so no fillings or butter .... you just bought them by the dozen at the door from the baker. Brick Lane has now become a destination in it's own right.

New York is so lucky with delis and bagels etc. Very envious. We have an abomination in the UK called New York Bagels. They're basically a plain bread mix .... a touch sweeter that has been boiled then baked ... but not the real thing. If you re-bake them then they become a mush.

But what happened to onion platzels? Never see them anywhere. I'm going to try and make some.

OK, I confess my first reaction to this thread was, WHAT? THEY HAVE BAGELS IN THE UK??? (born and raised in NYC, I've always felt like only WE had the real ones. And I haven't had a really good one since I left there over 20 years ago!)

And what IS an onion platzel anyway? Anything like a bialy?

Wow - Flyertalk is high on Google's page rank. The second item in a search for "platzel" is this thread. :eek:

http://www.google.com/search?q=platzels

Is this the same as a pletzlach?

NY Times Recipe: Onion Flat Rolls (Pletzlach)

Well ..... I think we probably had bagels in the UK earlier than the US as the influx of Jews after the pogroms arrived. Many of the people arriving in the Uk and Ireland thought they'd arrived in New York but they soon found their way to the East-end and Manchester. In fact I think I recently ate one of those original bagels.

The onion platzel is ... or was not really a flat anything. It was a crusty roll with a dimple in the top in which cooked onion was inserted. It was baked on stone and it had a sort of crunchy crispness to the rest of it as though some steam had been injected a bit like the crackling effect you get with a baguette.

This version doesn't look right because it's sort of high and batch baked and the ones I'm yearning for were seperate lower and had more crust surface - although the surface of these look nearly right. These look a bit better .... perhaps it's more a cross between the two.

They certainly aren't a variant of a bagel - an onion bagel has several variants one being onion seed and the other fried onion inside the actual dough mixture - sometimes with some dark onion little bits on the surface - so is completely different. The platzel has the onion just on the top in the dimple - pizza like.

Yeah - it looks like the term platzel is used more in the U.K. (run a Google search and most of the links are U.K.-related), whereas, for example, the term pletzlach would be used here in the States. I could be wrong, but it does appear that way.

im probably out of line to ask this, but: is there any way we can turn this into a compare-and-contrast-bagel-tasting-mini-do? id love to tag along if im in town.... if not, no problem!

Sign up for the BRT (see signature) in the Community forum. I know of plenty of good bagel places in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

What!? None in White Plains! How can that be?! :D

Okay, there must be at least one in Scarsdale, right? :D We gotta go to Brooklyn with you? :p

It's all relative isn't it? Have a bagel in St. Louis (or on a UA flight) and the ones in White Plains will stand out. I dont want to get into the "best bagel" argument (as long as no one claims it is the place with the giant fluffy abominations), you can get great bagels in the whole area. Sure, some are a bit better or worse but with the exception noted above most are really excellent.

I have it on good authority that the best bagels are from Queens anyway ;)

Everyone knows that IBM'ers can no longer afford even a bagel.

I'm from Queens, but I always found the best bagels in Brooklyn:D

And now I'm dying of curiousity-what is "the place with the giant fluffy abominations"?

TOS violation. :p

The right NY Bagel.
 

New York Bagels that are baked in the most authentic scenario are second to none. What is it that makes them taste the way they do? Water boiling method ? The water that nyc gets. Humidity. Attitude? Experience Air Altitude? Everybody has their own argument but the truth is noone can pin point the Exact recipe. The fact just remains that New York Bagels are second to none! For gifts and expats try www.BestNewYorkBagel.com

I honestly cant remember. They were advertising like crazy 10 or 15 years ago but I havent heard a lot about them recently.

Mea culpa ;)

I was being sarcastic with dhammer, not suggesting that WP has good bagels. I'm pretty sure he understood. Sorry for the inside joke that others may not have caught.

Good one!

Is a pletzlach the same as a bialy, onion or otherwise?

I found this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/01/dining/01HANU.html

Thanks nerd.

Nope. Didn't catch it. Sorry ;)

Truth be told, I've never been to White Plains. :)

THINK (Bagel!)

Yeah, I got it. Funny.

I checked it out in community.... wish I could go, but probably in SFO that day! Thanks for pointing it out though.

New Bagels Pretzels
 

Hi All,

I am not sure if I am right forum. We have introduce new bagels pretzels at Wal-Mart today. We bought it today. It was so good! Where we went to grocery to buys a few things and foods for my cat & litter, too. I realized that I saw brand new bagels pretzels and we didn't realize know that. I am never heard of it before. This is first-time ever that I ate it tonight. This is brand new bagels pretzels. It was so incredible that I love it lots! You guys can even try it!

Sounds mouth watering, but it could have been much nice if you have shared an image of it.

Do you know the manufacturer of these?

There are a few brands of them out there, Rolled Gold has them, and I know a few other local chip places seem to have some shelve space in the local stores.



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We've had them in the UK for a few years ... and we enjoy them regularly.

http://www.ocado.com/catalog/images-...5c7f60364dec24

Pastrami flavored chips?

Must get to England.....Soon

When you do, will you send some to me? :)

There's a UK Gourmet store a few miles up the road, I'll hit them up next week and see if they have some, if not I found a place that has reasonable slow shipping from the UK, I'll order some and send you some

Yes, that is one. I ate it today and it was so good! I love it! I won't eat too much and I will be watched my tummy. I don't want to be a diabetes.

Thank you! We can coordinate offline how much I owe you for them. :D