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Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 26169512)
Join a FlyerTalk event where the whole restaurant is rented out. That's how I ate there twice without having to wait more than a few minutes. :)
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Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26167806)
Just had lunch with somebody from Austin the other day and he swore the best in Austin wasn't Franklin's or Salt Lick, it was...and I can't remember, dang it. It'll come to me
But, Brown's BBQ is my favorite at the moment. Never more than a handful of folks waiting. So good and close to where I live that I gave up smoking briskets at home, although family and friends still make me do it from time to time. |
Originally Posted by Pa Kettle
(Post 26170041)
Could be La Barbecue. The pitmaster there used to work at Franklin BBQ. I've eaten at both and they are perceptually the same.
But, Brown's BBQ is my favorite at the moment. Never more than a handful of folks waiting. So good and close to where I live that I gave up smoking briskets at home, although family and friends still make me do it from time to time. |
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 26166402)
Hmmm I'm intrigued too - vinegar based is my preference for pork (though I tend to use more Western NC BBQ for chicken). I'm a big The Pit fan (which was mentioned upthread by CMK10) though the Durham version isn't quite as good as the Raleigh original.
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Originally Posted by jackal
(Post 26169512)
Unfortunately, I think the days of FlyerTalk events renting Franklin out are over, unless you want to step up and lead one...
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Originally Posted by violist
(Post 26168526)
You can perhaps be reminded by paging back through this
rather delicious thread. == Franklin is truly great though pricy; Salt Lick quite good, but I'd put these with them - one might be the place you're forgetting: Freedmen's - a fashionable whiskey bar near the University, but the food makes up for the setting. Prices high. Black's - meat trucked in daily from Lockhart in climate- controlled vehicles. When I ate there, it appeared to be a good facsimile of the real thing. Ironworks - I really liked it; I may be in a minority on this, but I thought the quality of the beef made up for whatever quirks the place displays. Micklethwait's Craft Meats - this is a trailer not far from Franklin. I loved the brisket, even though it was cold out and we had to eat it in the car. Terry Black's - run by Kent Black's renegade nephews and named after his brother, this also causes fierce disputation among aficionados. I thought it almost as good as the real thing, and the service, something people complain about, seemed perfectly fine to me. == John Mueller is well regarded, but I had a bad experience there, to wit - I asked for a pound of extra moist, and the guy taking the order cut me a sample, and it was, well, almost moist enough, so I said that, and when my meat came out, it turned out to be way not moist enough. Luckily the sauce (more like salsa with beef in it) made up for that - it was good enough to drink, and I did. Places I've not been but that get stellar notices - LeAnn Mueller's La Barbecue; we were cowed by the long line and reported 2 hr wait; Brown's, which was closed for ice the day we went. |
Originally Posted by violist
(Post 26168448)
No, you've got to try to hit Q39 and Joe's.
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Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26172231)
That is one exhaustive list! You need to have a blog
and now that ship has sailed. How many BBQ blogs are there? More than the world needs, for sure.
Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26172245)
If I was by myself I would probably hit every place. I'll consider myself
lucky if I can get the group to one of them. is a sit-down venue. You might have to call ahead for a group. |
Originally Posted by violist
(Post 26172459)
People told me that 20 years ago. Wasn't up for the responsibility,
and now that ship has sailed. How many BBQ blogs are there? More than the world needs, for sure. Ah. Joe's is more of a group type of place. Q39 (as with Jack Stack) is a sit-down venue. You might have to call ahead for a group. |
Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26172245)
If I was by myself I would probably hit every place. I'll consider myself lucky if I can get the group to one of them.
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Not unlimited funds, but a fair amount of time.
Brisket observations from my last BBQ trip, second week February 2016, in order of preference (first three very close; last one not close). The rest of the meals - Mexican and hamburgers - obviously off topic. All orders a pound of moist and beer where available; maybe a side or two and another meat. All notes from this trip. The first three are return visits. Black's, Lockhart - this is my happiest happy place for barbecue, edging out both by food and experience other happy places. I will go there (if someone drives me) in preference to all others. This time the meat was well smoked but not well colored, the result being a little gray. Nice texture, a little soft; I know some frown upon a pot-roasty barbecue, but for me if it tastes right, that's the clincher. A little saltier than the norm. Sauce, moderate spice, thicker than average for the area. Good though wholly unnecessary. The outfit now has a series of hot sauces - the ghost pepper one is pretty numbing but doesn't enhance the food at all. Beer around $4. Two Bros., San Antonio - for reasons unknown, this is not an Internet favorite, despite its being in Texas Monthly's list and its serving some of the best I've ever had. I am so confident in the cook's talents that this is one of the few places I will order chicken, though I didn't this time. The texture of the brisket here - soft but not too soft, with a distinct grain, lots of delicious intramuscular fat - may be the best ever. Relatively heavily smoked; this intensified to an almost but not quite unpleasant level in leftovers consumed in the evening. The thing that drags this down to a tie for second was that this might be the first Texas brisket that cried out, albeit a little meekly, for salt. The tangy sauce was only a little spicy and vinegary, more than amply sweet. There are two other sauces; I tried the sweet, which was like sugar water. Beer $3.50-4. City Market, Luling - another of the perennial greats, with a line to match. The most balanced brisket of the lot, but the meat wasn't as luscious as either of the above. For those who like their moist to be moist but not fatty, this might be your little piece of heaven. The stuff is of a perfection, but to me it seems to be missing some little kick, so the famous peppery mustard-tomato sauce is almost necessary. On the other hand, the pork spare rib here is perfect and needs no adulteration. No beer - a separate station and line for sides and soft drinks, which are $1-2 a can or bottle. R&G, McMahan - ordered a plate of extra moist with two sides, as there was no bulk price posted and no time to negotiate, because a line was forming behind us. The cashier/waitress shouted "moist" to the kitchen. When she came to the table with our order, I discovered she'd rung in for two plates, not a terrible thing as they were somewhat modest plates, and the charge for the both was about what one would pay for one at one of the big boys. What was a terrible thing was that the meat was not moist. I mean, it was tender enough, and there was a little rim of fat here and there, but no. I asked the girl if the kitchen could spare an ounce or two of fat to luxuriousize the serving, so she went back to talk to the cook, who talked back to her loud enough for me to hear. Who's the guy who wants the fat? I shouted across the room, no great feat as it's very resonant, I can hear you, whereupon there was silence. In a while a couple ounces of trim came out, after which the meat was perfect. The beans were okay, and I thought the yellow potato salad likewise, but my podner found the former a bit underdone and the latter painfully sweet. A good but not great meal; the best deal of the trip, though, as plates were something like $6. Soft drinks $1, beers $2. Davila's, Seguin - ordered a plate of extra moist plus ribs with two sides, as there was no bulk price posted and no time to negotiate, because a line was forming behind us. The brisket would have been great if it had been cooked a couple more hours and foiled or coolered a bunch of time to rest. As it was, the fat wasn't rendered enough, and the grain of the meat was too developed. Tender enough but not the texture that I favor - fibers too prominent. Decent flavor, too light smoking. The ribs by contrast had had too much heat and too much sitting around time, a tough skin forming on the outside. The inside of one rib was meltingly, perhaps almost too, tender; the other, actually an end piece, was resilient throughout; adequate seasoning and smoking. Beans were okay; the rice was flavorless and with a weird day-before-yesterday texture. Beers $3 something. A little more time and effort and this would have been a contender, too. |
Thanks, violist, now I'm starving (and jealous)
By the way, R&G was the other place my friend had mentioned. I kept thinking R&R, but couldn't find a place with that name. Sounds like your experience doesn't jive with his. |
You guys made me hungry for BBQ. Going tonight.
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Originally Posted by VivoPerLei
(Post 26167806)
Just had lunch with somebody from Austin the other day and he swore the best in Austin wasn't Franklin's or Salt Lick, it was...and I can't remember, dang it. It'll come to me
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I like Helena's Hawaiian Food in Honolulu. I love their Pipikaula short ribs!! :D
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