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cubbie Jan 3, 2009 1:26 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will), but to address the OP's question;

if you draw a straight line southwest from Chicago through Kansas City and project it down through Texas --

and draw a straight line from Chicago east to say, Virginia Beach, VA, keeping all of Kentucky, North Carolina, and Virginia south of the line ...

you'll have outlined the quadrant of the continental US that feels strongly about barbecue.

Steph3n Jan 3, 2009 2:26 am


Originally Posted by deubster (Post 11001554)
I use mesquite for steaks and ribs, or for any meat that will stay less than an hour or so on the grill. It puts plenty of smoke flavor in fast. But it's way too strong for long slow cooking in a smoker. It will impart a harsh, bitter taste if used for 4-5 hours.

We design our smokers out here using old oil field gear custom made, 12 hours under mesquite smoke with the right smoker can be quite good .

:)

beckoa Jan 3, 2009 2:51 am


Originally Posted by tonypct (Post 10989613)
This thread is making ne hungry for some Cue! But I can't go anywhere as its snowing like crazy here and I am homebound. :(

mmmm... what I would do for a great brisket now... alas its -20 and not warming up for a week or so now <brr>

beckoa Jan 3, 2009 2:53 am


Originally Posted by cubbie (Post 11002385)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will), but to address the OP's question;

if you draw a straight line southwest from Chicago through Kansas City and project it down through Texas --

and draw a straight line from Chicago east to say, Virginia Beach, VA, keeping all of Kentucky, North Carolina, and Virginia south of the line ...

you'll have outlined the quadrant of the continental US that feels strongly about barbecue.

HI has some great pig... gotta love the emu...

AK also has its own variations... with lots of game like moose, caribou, buffalo & even beaver :D

But for the lower 48... that's a good generalization...

kipper Jan 3, 2009 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by TexasYankee (Post 11001484)
y'all need to contact SchmutzigMSP because he did a BBQ tour of Central Texas earlier this year! He probably has a link to his trip - I am too full of New Year's brisket to look for it ...

Happy New Year Y'all!

Mmmm, I'm thinking that might be a good vacation for me some year... Mr. Kipper is optional, although I'd guess he wouldn't miss it. :D

ECOTONE Jan 3, 2009 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by num1bearsfan (Post 10988298)
Kansas City BBQ is the best. Arthur Bryant's has the best ribs. Gates' for the sliced beef.

I make the trip at least twice a year and fill up a cooler.

memphis bbq is better

:)

Telfes Jan 3, 2009 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by cubbie (Post 11002385)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will), but to address the OP's question;

if you draw a straight line southwest from Chicago through Kansas City and project it down through Texas --

and draw a straight line from Chicago east to say, Virginia Beach, VA, keeping all of Kentucky, North Carolina, and Virginia south of the line ...

you'll have outlined the quadrant of the continental US that feels strongly about barbecue.

Reportedly Owensboro, KY is the KY bbq capital, though I cannot attest to the quality or even style. I hear it is good and people in the area do seem quite serious. YMMV.

Peterpack Jan 4, 2009 3:36 am

From what i've seen, i would prefer the sauceless beef BBQ over the chopped pork type BBQs full of sauce

greggwiggins Jan 4, 2009 7:47 am

The "which barbecue is best" question is rather like asking whether Beethoven is better than the Beatles.

A)- it's ultimately a subjective judgment and there is no "right answer".

B)- they're both (or all, in the case of barbecue) really good.

Arcolaio99 Jan 4, 2009 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by UALfromMSN (Post 11001627)
When I'm in Texas, I will eat BBQ 2 meals a day, 3 if I could.

Here in Chicago, we've got a pretty good place, /http://smoquebbq.com/, that does the trick until I can get back to TX.

Thanks for the link! I was looking for a good bbq joint in Chicagoland. Any others that you are a fan of?

mlshanks Jan 4, 2009 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by cubbie (Post 11002385)
if you draw a straight line southwest from Chicago through Kansas City and project it down through Texas --

and draw a straight line from Chicago east to say, Virginia Beach, VA, keeping all of Kentucky, North Carolina, and Virginia south of the line ...

you'll have outlined the quadrant of the continental US that feels strongly about barbecue.

Consider yourself corrected...

Portions of California are pretty passionate about BBQ, and Santa Maria BBQ is as good as anything you get in Texas... Beef tri-tip or Top Sirloin, dry-rubbed with salt, pepper, garlic, and paprika, the outside seared over a really hot flame, than slow roasted over a smokey oak fire. No goopy sauces at all, but fresh salsa on the side. Plus you gotta have piquinto beans and hot sour dough bread or rolls with it.

N965VJ Jan 4, 2009 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11002515)
We design our smokers out here using old oil field gear custom made, 12 hours under mesquite smoke with the right smoker can be quite good .

:)

I have to agree. If low heat and plenty of mesquite smoke does not make a great brisket something is wrong. Start the day before with a rub, overnight in the fridge, and fire up the smoker in the morning.

flygirl555 Jan 4, 2009 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by scoow (Post 10988285)
Or find out if anyone is planning another MCI BBQ DO.

Definitely think about coming to the MCI BBQ...it's a blast! I've been to 2 out of 3 (missed the second one because we moved that weekend, but sent some friends in my place).

Oklahoma Joe's is not to be missed!

old_vine_zin Jan 5, 2009 7:55 am


Originally Posted by flygirl555 (Post 11012098)
Oklahoma Joe's is not to be missed!

If you know about Oklahoma Joe's you are truly a Connoisseur of Que.

I've had the great fortune of living in both Kansas City and central Texas and experiencing BBQ around the country. Oklahoma Joe's is probably the best pulled pork anywhere in the world, or at least the world according to me! The very best BBQ ever IMO used to Jack's Stack in KC until I found The Salt Lick in Dripping Springs, TX. There is also a place in Austin,TX called Lambert's that is worthy of mention.

I agree with a couple of previous posters, if the meat needs sauce, it isn't smoked correctly. Save the sauce for the french fries.

manneca Jan 5, 2009 8:44 am

How many times do I have to say this on eighty five different threads. Memphis barbeque is AWFUL. I have no idea what they do to the pork, but that take a perfectly good piece of meat and make it taste like cardboard. Then they put this awful red sauce on it. And the ribs (which are poor folks food anyway) are equally bad: dry tasteless.

There is only one kind of barbeque: Lexington (NC) barbeque. Sweet, sweet, long cooked, lovingly basted pork with a nice vinegar-based sauce (no, never tomatoes in the sauce). It is not eastern NC barbeque, nor is it western NC barbeque. With barbeque slaw and hush puppies. You need the whole plate to really savor the joy of Lexington barbeque.

And yes, there are places where people take barbeque really seriously.


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