Originally Posted by CappuccinoAddict
(Post 28959054)
Chicago guide now out. I was right about Smyth being promoted to 2 stars, but wrong about Oriole getting promoted to 3--it stayed at 2 (as did Acadia and Sixteen). Grace and Alinea kept their 3 stars. Other changes were Longman & Eagle was demoted from 1 star to Bib Gourmand, and there are two new star entries: Elske, and Entente.
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Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 28971682)
I wonder if the reviewers wound up at Longman & Eagle on one of their bad nights. If it were anything like an experience we had where the four of had our drinks brought to the table over a period of 30 minutes and 2 of them were wrong, I'm surprised they kept the BG.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 28973892)
BG is not really an Award, it´s only about value
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 28973892)
BG is not really an Award, it´s only about value
At Pichet in Dublin, Ireland during a lunch visit we noticed that they display their Bib Gourmand award. This award is given each year to restaurants which meet the criterias of value + quality. They can get awarded or deleted by Michelin, the same as with their */**/*** star ratings. Since 1955, the guide has also highlighted restaurants offering "exceptionally good food at moderate prices," a feature now called "Bib Gourmand". They must offer menu items priced below a maximum determined by local economic standards. Bib (Bibendum) is the company's nickname for the Michelin Man, its corporate logo for over a century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelin_Guide Cheers & Safe Travels. ^ |
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 28976587)
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 28976587)
The last 3* I had that I feel was 3* worthy was Eleven Madison Park. |
Originally Posted by 5DMarkIIguy
(Post 28978164)
SF is outrageously inflated. Almost like HK level now. I´ve been to 3 of the 7 within the last 2 years, and none of them are 3* quality.
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 28978187)
They are making menus to a style that give the M folks arousal in their tingly parts. "We" did the same thing with some of our finest grapes to do the same for Mr. Parker for way too long.
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
(Post 28977184)
Coi getting its 3rd star after a chef change probably bodes well for Atera's chances in NYC. I am visiting SF in a few months over MLK weekend and have a number of these places I want to go to, starting with Benu and Atelier Crenn.
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I ate at Crenn about 3 years ago (maybe things have changed). I thought the service and presentation were all on point. The food was very good, but I didn't think it was 3-star worthy; personally I thought maybe they focused a bit too much on making things look cool. Overall the restaurant kinda reminded me of Atera and Belcanto, and if both of these places are 2 stars, then Crenn surely is not a step above.
I would love to try Benu as well next time I'm in SF. I've heard very good things about it! |
Originally Posted by jbeans
(Post 28979296)
I ate at Crenn about 3 years ago (maybe things have changed). I thought the service and presentation were all on point. The food was very good, but I didn't think it was 3-star worthy; personally I thought maybe they focused a bit too much on making things look cool. Overall the restaurant kinda reminded me of Atera and Belcanto, and if both of these places are 2 stars, then Crenn surely is not a step above.
I would love to try Benu as well next time I'm in SF. I've heard very good things about it! |
Originally Posted by 5DMarkIIguy
(Post 28978164)
SF is outrageously inflated. Almost like HK level now. I´ve been to 3 of the 7 within the last 2 years, and none of them are 3* quality.
The last 3* I had that I feel was 3* worthy was Eleven Madison Park. I guess it goes to the subjective component of any type evaluation of this sort, especially when the restaurant refuses to be rated. I haven't been to 11 Madison for years but I remember when the San Pellagrino ratings came out saying that I didn't even think 11 Madison was the best restaurant in that building, much less the city. Although the other restaurant in that building closed and I'm sure 11 Madison has morphed more than once since then.
Originally Posted by CappuccinoAddict
(Post 28979022)
Exciting! I've been to SF a few times but before I started following Michelin. I look forward to your thoughts on Benu and Crenn. The latter has been angling for 3 stars for years.
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 28979545)
And I think what may be the best, certainly the most pioneering, restaurant in the Bay area never gets rated at all. Some of my other personal favorites are also completely missing.
I guess it goes to the subjective component of any type evaluation of this sort, especially when the restaurant refuses to be rated. I haven't been to 11 Madison for years but I remember when the San Pellagrino ratings came out saying that I didn't even think 11 Madison was the best restaurant in that building, much less the city. Although the other restaurant in that building closed and I'm sure 11 Madison has morphed more than once since then. |
Originally Posted by CappuccinoAddict
(Post 28979022)
Exciting! I've been to SF a few times but before I started following Michelin. I look forward to your thoughts on Benu and Crenn. The latter has been angling for 3 stars for years.
Quince and Benu were pretty much tied for top place in our minds for overall food and service. I might give the wine list at Quince the edge and the flavour profiles at Benu were more interesting, but both were right up there. Benu has evolved over the years but not so much that they've strayed far from their original appeal. Well worth a visit. |
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