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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 31020861)
Was in Rome recently and had 4 meals. Here the short version: La Terrazza: Solid but not great in my eyes. Would only be my choice if staying at the Eden La Pergola: Great! Fabulous dinner, must visit in my eyes. Imago: Had low expectations but had a very good dinner. 2 star level in my eyes. Moma: Got a star recently. Considering value it's the place to be with 69 € for a Tasting. Good 1 star level, would visit again. |
Review to come, but dined at Ya Ge in Taipei on Sunday night (1* in the 2018 Michelin guide; food is by and large right at that level, as is the service). What I found odd was that though the restaurant has a stated dress code of collared shirts for men that several parties included folks in T-shirts, and not just plain uncollared shirts, either. Maybe I'm being a bit fuddy, but is it asking too much to at least put on a polo instead of a loud tee when going to a nice restaurant? My other pet peeve was the party who were having 2-3 speakerphone conversations during dinner (unfortunately, seated at the next table over). Making a cell phone in a restaurant is bad enough, but doing so over speakerphone?! Seriously?
I understand restaurants not wanting to antagonize patrons, but honestly, someone needed to politely ask them to take their calls out into the lobby. |
Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 31025375)
Review to come, but dined at Ya Ge in Taipei on Sunday night (1* in the 2018 Michelin guide; food is by and large right at that level, as is the service). What I found odd was that though the restaurant has a stated dress code of collared shirts for men that several parties included folks in T-shirts, and not just plain uncollared shirts, either. Maybe I'm being a bit fuddy, but is it asking too much to at least put on a polo instead of a loud tee when going to a nice restaurant?
My other pet peeve was the party who were having 2-3 speakerphone conversations during dinner (unfortunately, seated at the next table over). Making a cell phone in a restaurant is bad enough, but doing so over speakerphone?! Seriously? I understand restaurants not wanting to antagonize patrons, but honestly, someone needed to politely ask them to take their calls out into the lobby. |
Just got back from our Chicago trip. Below is the menu from Alinea we had. Below that is the menu from Oriole. Both dinners were amazing. Alinea doesn't need any intro here. But if you've missed out on Oriole or never heard of it, go!
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Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31025410)
While I respect you preferring everyone to honor the stated dress code and to dress in a certain fashion, that doesn't really impact your dining experience IMO. It's a collar. Look away.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 31026613)
For me it has Nothing to do with the "given" Dress Code. As I said before I don´t need someone to tell me how to dress. It´s not for me and I get more and more concerned it comes to Europe. This said I remember times when in nice restaurant no man (or only one who stood out) wear no tie. In my eyes everyone should decide him/ herself how to dress, even if many embaress themself by there choose imo…..
I think it's appropriate to dress better in a nice restaurant, but I think the times of jackets and ties being necessary for that consideration have long since passed. I think the patrons AND the restaurant should be equally respectful of each other: a patron should respect a fine dining restaurant by dressing reasonably well, and the restaurant should respect the patron by not dictating jacket and tie. I don't think there is anything wrong with a restaurant asking for collared shirts, but I also don't think it's that big a deal without a collar! Of course, I live in California for a reason. When I am in Paris, I very much respect the local tradition of being much better dressed, but I still refuse to wear a jacket that will make me too hot and uncomfortable. |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31026642)
I think I'm with you, actually. I think you might have misinterpreted my comments!
I think it's appropriate to dress better in a nice restaurant, but I think the times of jackets and ties being necessary for that consideration have long since passed. I think the patrons AND the restaurant should be equally respectful of each other: a patron should respect a fine dining restaurant by dressing reasonably well, and the restaurant should respect the patron by not dictating jacket and tie. I don't think there is anything wrong with a restaurant asking for collared shirts, but I also don't think it's that big a deal without a collar! Of course, I live in California for a reason. When I am in Paris, I very much respect the local tradition of being much better dressed, but I still refuse to wear a jacket that will make me too hot and uncomfortable. |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31026642)
I think I'm with you, actually. I think you might have misinterpreted my comments!
I think it's appropriate to dress better in a nice restaurant, but I think the times of jackets and ties being necessary for that consideration have long since passed. I think the patrons AND the restaurant should be equally respectful of each other: a patron should respect a fine dining restaurant by dressing reasonably well, and the restaurant should respect the patron by not dictating jacket and tie. I don't think there is anything wrong with a restaurant asking for collared shirts, but I also don't think it's that big a deal without a collar! Of course, I live in California for a reason. When I am in Paris, I very much respect the local tradition of being much better dressed, but I still refuse to wear a jacket that will make me too hot and uncomfortable. |
Went to RON Gastrobar (1 Star) in Amsterdam a couple of weeks back and was underwhelmed.
Also went to De Silveren Spiegel (Plate/Not Starred) in Amsterdam and had the tasting menu with pairings, was one of the best meals I've ever had. |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31026642)
I think it's appropriate to dress better in a nice restaurant, but I think the times of jackets and ties being necessary for that consideration have long since passed.
I don't care about collars, but I'm ok with Michelin restaurants enforcing rules such as no athletic shoes, no jeans with holes, no shirts with obnoxious slogans (I know, I know, who decides it's obnoxious), etc. |
Originally Posted by JBord
(Post 31032120)
which did ruin a celebration evening for us just a little bit.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 31032788)
Well, while I understand your point get more relaxed;). There are many things outside I don´t wonna see. Some are surely understandable for most, for some of my dislikings I even feel embarassed.
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Rome: La Terrazza 1 star
While we stayed at the hotel Eden in Rome we had dinner at La Terrazza which is awarded with 1 Michelin star.
We started with some Amuse Bouche: https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...023403f9b8.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2b9e91b35a.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3fa694fca3.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0fda433def.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e4187bbca5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d8214ca200.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c673088aa7.jpg You may choose between a la carte, a choose of each one Antipasti, Primi and Secondi for 130 €, a 6 Course Tasting for 165 € and a 8 Course dinner for 200 €. Considering the 130 € menu doesn´t contain a desser which costs 28 € the Tastings are far better value. As we didn´t like many of the dishes the offered in the Tastings we went with the 3 course. First Course: Langoustine Variation https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...089255de42.jpg Scallops, mango and passion fruit https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...671efbad65.jpg Both dishes were good, I liked the langoustine more. Second Course: Gran riserva risotto with almond, curry and red prawns https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7071bb6bd7.jpg Calamarata pasta with steamed oyster, coconut and rocket https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e53dd783d.jpg Again both dishes were good. Third couse: Organic salmon with mixed herbs https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8ff5736118.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bdf1094f94.jpg Personally this dish wasn´t my taste, but technically it was well done. Crispy red mullet, seaweed tartareand Kalamata olives https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d71507fe8a.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...611fd03b91.jpg A solid dish. Pre-dessert https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a013b37968.jpg Time for Dessert. They offer a card which was created together with Angelo Musa from Hotel Plaza Athénée. First I wanted choose the chocolate and pear soufflé but they told me it would need too much time. I love such things! We took Amalfi Lemon https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...25156914b6.jpg Taste was OK (not more, not less), but consideringthe price of 28 € I would skip dessert next time. Petit fours https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a96f0d60ea.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d69d4cb5d7.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a1d64e10c4.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6b20c75d59.jpg Over all a good dinner, even if I thought it was "generous" prized. If I would stay at the Eden I would eat here again. But I wouldn´t if I stay somewhere else. |
Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 31025375)
What I found odd was that though the restaurant has a stated dress code of collared shirts for men that several parties included folks in T-shirts, and not just plain uncollared shirts, either. Maybe I'm being a bit fuddy, but is it asking too much to at least put on a polo
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Originally Posted by HKTraveler
(Post 31042282)
Why would the locals dress differently because the restaurant has a Michelin star or that there are tourists there?
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