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braslvr Sep 21, 2023 11:49 pm

I should clarify my earlier post. I do like the spices which are commonly associated with pumpkin, as long as there is no pumpkin involved. Like most folks, there are foods which I don't really care for but can still easily eat, however there are a select few that are so repugnant as to not be edible. They are mostly limited to sweetish vegetables including pumpkin, yams, sweet potatoes, beets, and winter squash. Cooked carrots are rough, but I can choke a bit down with enough salt.

BamaVol Sep 22, 2023 5:07 am


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 35602346)
I should clarify my earlier post. I do like the spices which are commonly associated with pumpkin, as long as there is no pumpkin involved. Like most folks, there are foods which I don't really care for but can still easily eat, however there are a select few that are so repugnant as to not be edible. They are mostly limited to sweetish vegetables including pumpkin, yams, sweet potatoes, beets, and winter squash. Cooked carrots are rough, but I can choke a bit down with enough salt.

That's unusual. Do you eat other sweet foods, fruit? The bulk of my sugar comes from fruit and I love all the vegetables you listed. I’m not crazy about raw carrots, but could eat cooked carrots several times a week.

This thread has made me think. I realize I season winter squash with nutmeg and cloves when I bake it. A little salt, pepper and olive oil and it’s one of my favorite starches.

braslvr Sep 22, 2023 12:13 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 35602764)
That's unusual. Do you eat other sweet foods, fruit? The bulk of my sugar comes from fruit and I love all the vegetables you listed. I’m not crazy about raw carrots, but could eat cooked carrots several times a week.

Yes, I like sweet desserts a lot. More and more the older I get.:) Most all fruit too. There is just some kind of common strange sweetness shared by those vegetables.

work2fly Sep 22, 2023 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by work2fly (Post 35595817)
No strong opinion.

I love pumpkin pie but am trying to hold out until October before enjoying this year.

I can't get too excited about other pumpkin products.

Well this didn't age well.

I couldn't pass up the pumpkin kringle at Trader Joe's, nor the Starbucks PSL creamer at Safeway. My wife returned from Costco this morning with a pumpkin pie.

Might as well find some pumpkin pie ice cream. I recall 31 flavors made a good one.

FindingFoodFluency Sep 23, 2023 1:18 pm

Pumpkin Chef Katsura
 
Many moons ago, there was a Tokyo restaurant by the name of Pumpkin Chef Katsura. Each dish had pumpkin in it.

The restaurant didn't last long, but I wax nostalgic about it, particularly during the autumn.

n.b. they actually used kabocha, which is sweeter and denser than a standard issue pumpkin.

n.b.b. I like pumpkin-flavored things, but sometimes they get way too chemically. Jamba Juice used to have a fun concoction, perhaps contemporaneously with Pumpkin Chef Katsura. 20 years ago, maybe a couple less?

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ElevatorEnthusiast Sep 29, 2023 1:07 pm

I love, love, love pumpkin spice - but even better is pumpkin cream cold foam from Starbucks - drown me in the stuff.

CDTraveler Oct 5, 2023 2:33 pm

Pumpkin pie, with a wider variety of spices than the usual, is much loved here. Pumpkin spice cake with milk chocolate icing - very popular, too. Note: these are made with actual pumpkin, not "pumpkin flavored"

Faux pumpkin flavored anything, especially coffee, is a hard no.

ILuvParis Oct 11, 2023 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 35601296)
It has nothing to do with bland. There are many things that can be made with pumpkin but not all fit the title of the thread. Plus there are many things that have the traditional pumpkin spice mix but contain no pumpkin.

So true. Pumpkin spice has no pumpkin in it.

That said, Wendy's Pumpkin spice Frosty does and it's pretty tasty.

We're having a party this Saturday and I've already made desserts, among them pumpkin blondies. They are beyond delicious with a salted caramel center. I was looking for something chewy, rather than cakey. As I understand it, the key is, instead of adding pumpkin to the mix, you make (something akin to) pumpkin butter (pumpkin, brown sugar and butter heated together - which would make an amazing ice cream topper by itself).

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corky Oct 11, 2023 10:23 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 35656815)
So true. Pumpkin spice has no pumpkin in it.

That said, Wendy's Pumpkin spice Frosty does and it's pretty tasty.

We're having a party this Saturday and I've already made desserts, among them pumpkin blondies. They are beyond delicious with a salted caramel center. I was looking for something chewy, rather than cakey. As I understand it, the key is, instead of adding pumpkin to the mix, you make (something akin to) pumpkin butter (pumpkin, brown sugar and butter heated together - which would make an amazing ice cream topper by itself).


Sounds heavenly. No way those would make it to Saturday in my house. None.

ILuvParis Oct 11, 2023 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 35656847)
Sounds heavenly. No way those would make it to Saturday in my house. None.

I know. They're in the freezer. With the lemon bars and the peanut butter chocolate bars. :D

corky Oct 11, 2023 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 35656860)
I know. They're in the freezer. With the lemon bars and the peanut butter chocolate bars. :D

pfft...it would take more than a freezer to deter me from going after those. And maybe even the lemon bars first. I have eaten almost frozen solid pumpkin pie. :p

corky Oct 12, 2023 12:04 am

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LapLap Oct 13, 2023 1:47 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 35656815)
We're having a party this Saturday and I've already made desserts, among them pumpkin blondies.

I really want the recipe for those, they look amazing.

Pumpkin spice is really just a coffee syrup choice in Starbucks and similar chains in the U.K. and I’ve had to make my own getting together all the component spices when trying to recreate an American Fall flavour without an import can of American pumpkin pie filling. “Pumpkin” never features in any of the spice racks in our stores and supermarkets.

I set myself a challenge a few years ago when my daughter was small and still being introduced to foods. I got a box of pumpkins delivered and made different things with each of them.

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Gohei mochi with pumpkin glaze
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Pumpkin and miso ice cream
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Olla Gitana - with pumpkin, pear and paprika
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Acorn squash roasted with shio kōji
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Pumpkin risotto fried and topped with melted Comte
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Pumpkin and corn chowder with a pumpkin, spelt cornbread
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Pumpkin soufflé (hadn’t learned the trick of letting it settle in a slightly ajar oven to stop it deflating)
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Leftover pumpkin cornbread made into a “bread and butter pudding”
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Pumpkin and celeriac pasty

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pumpkin in my attempt at a Teochew style pastry

Not one of them had the “pumpkin flavor” this thread is about.

ILuvParis Oct 13, 2023 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35659983)
I really want the recipe for those, they look amazing.

You've got a PM.

JBord Oct 23, 2023 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 35599633)
Ok, you just reminded me. My Haitian neighbor made us a pumpkin based oxtail soup last year when we had COVID. It was delicious.

Sounds good. I don't mind pumpkin when it's in a savory dish, it's the "pumpkin spices" that I find truly disgusting. Including the pumpkin beers.


Originally Posted by corky (Post 35599085)
All of you haters better stay away from Trader Joe for a few months....there is very little in there that isn't pumpkin spice.

Yet another reason :)


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 35602346)
I should clarify my earlier post. I do like the spices which are commonly associated with pumpkin, as long as there is no pumpkin involved. Like most folks, there are foods which I don't really care for but can still easily eat, however there are a select few that are so repugnant as to not be edible. They are mostly limited to sweetish vegetables including pumpkin, yams, sweet potatoes, beets, and winter squash. Cooked carrots are rough, but I can choke a bit down with enough salt.

Interesting, there's something to this because I would have the same list of sweet vegetables. In fact, I've only learned to like a couple other types of squashes in the last few years (as my taste buds age?). Sweet potatoes and yams are definite No's. Pumpkin and beets are No 90% of the time. My wife will eat most squashes, but agrees on pumpkins and beets. Can't remember how she feels about sweet potatoes, but she's never brought one home. Cooked carrots, for both of us, fall into the category of "really don't care for but can still easily eat" as you mentioned.


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 35659983)

I set myself a challenge a few years ago when my daughter was small and still being introduced to foods. I got a box of pumpkins delivered and made different things with each of them.

Not one of them had the “pumpkin flavor” this thread is about.

I would at least try most of these. Thank you for not adding dessert spices to a gourd!


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