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DELee Dec 24, 2022 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 34862089)
Hooter's was literally next door to the hotel I stayed at in Orlando after the long flight from Shanghai. The buffalo shrimp were a godsend. Chili's has a solid three course (well, the first course is a soft drink) menu.

But did either or both Hooters and Chili's have prices on their respective menus?

David

moondog Dec 24, 2022 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 34862164)
But did either or both Hooters and Chili's have prices on their respective menus?

David

Hooter's = no prices at all

Chili's = no prices for drinks (including soda)

braslvr Dec 24, 2022 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ (Post 34861997)
I refuse to order or see a menu through a QR code. It's a big security risk. If that is what is required just to see a menu, I'll just walk out. You want to implement a tablet system, I have no problem with that. But the potential to go to a malicious website or software installed on your phone... Sorry, but no thanks.
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I could have almost starved in Texas recently if I had followed this advise. It was very common, even in some small taquerias. This is why I think we're going to see a lot more of it.
And as I said, I don't like it at all.

moondog Dec 24, 2022 8:36 pm

I mentioned airport pricing in the OP, but I'm wondering how people feel about this. I'm guess I'm glad I only had one $27 bloody Mary.

StuckInYYZ Dec 24, 2022 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 34862186)
I could have almost starved in Texas recently if I had followed this advise. It was very common, even in some small taquerias. This is why I think we're going to see a lot more of it.
And as I said, I don't like it at all.

Possibly. But there are just so many things that could go wrong, and I would rather not sacrifice my security just because a restaurant has the misguided belief that they're making a difference by saving a few sheets of paper.

If they want to make a difference, deal with the food waste that they generate. The plastic waste they generate. They would be doing a lot more environmental damage control dealing with stuff like that vs saving the printing costs. And even that can be mitigated in a variety of ways.

The other thing to consider about not having prices on the in-store menu.... it's dishonest. It does not allow a customer to make an informed decision about the product they're getting. For Hooters and Chili's.... I can understand if they (the chains) don't want to put pricing on the "national" menu... prices can vary from location to location even within the city. But to not put pricing on the menu at that location? That allows the operators to vary the pricing as they see fit and you have no idea what the criteria is. "That guy looks rich because of all the elite tags on their laptop bag... let's add a bit for him"... "That's my college buddy over there, let's lower the price there"... And for the wait staff unable to quote a price? That means the price is HIGHLY variable and you can't really trust it. I would not patronize such places (I'd be more likely to report them to the BBB or if a chain, the head office).

You want to make a buck? I get that. But be honest about it.

(As a side node, I also refuse to use uber or the delivery services of door dash or skipthedishes as well... I have only used door dash once as I was gifted some credit... and I did pick-up due to the dis-ingenuous setup of these services)


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 34862188)
I mentioned airport pricing in the OP, but I'm wondering how people feel about this. I'm guess I'm glad I only had one $27 bloody Mary.

I disagree with this as well. Airside, they have a captive audience... that doesn't give them the right to jack up the prices. I will note, for "common food" (eg, not bars) I find in Asia (I can't speak for the other regions) the prices aren't too far off the mark airside vs. landside. Although who is to blame for airside prices, I don't know.

I will give a shoutout to Tim Hortons at YYZ International airside though. Their prices are the same airside and landside (give or take a dime or so)

corky Dec 24, 2022 10:19 pm

Can you imagine walking into Nordstrom to buy some clothes and not having prices on the items or expecting people to scan a QR code to find out the price. No way.

YVR Cockroach Dec 24, 2022 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 34862301)
Can you imagine walking into Nordstrom to buy some clothes and not having prices on the items or expecting people to scan a QR code to find out the price. No way.

Not sure about Nordstrom but I used to like to go to Macy's, grab a bunch of stuff, and take it to a price scanner to see how much the real sale price was.

CDTraveler Dec 24, 2022 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 34862366)
Not sure about Nordstrom but I used to like to go to Macy's, grab a bunch of stuff, and take it to a price scanner to see how much the real sale price was.

You have to scan tags at Macy's because their pricing system and faux sales are so untrustworthy it's ridiculous. There's the tag price, which only someone in a desperate hurry would pay, and then there's the sale because it's Saturday, or Tuesday, or Leap Year, or whatever, plus the "Bonus Buy!" discount, and maybe another discount or two if the salesclerk feels like it.

I don't want to play that game, especially not in a restaurant. No prices on the menu, I'm out of there, and frankly I doubt refusing to put the price in writing is legal in most states, and I know failing to answer a customer's question about the price is illegal in any state I've lived in. Scan a QR code for the price? What game are they playing? Again, not happening for me.

DELee Dec 24, 2022 11:52 pm


Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 34862366)
Not sure about Nordstrom but I used to like to go to Macy's, grab a bunch of stuff, and take it to a price scanner to see how much the real sale price was.

Now that sounds like JCPenney... :)

Back on topic, even if they write up a menu board of the day (with or without prices), most folks either won't see it nor be able to read it from any specific location a restaurant.

David

StuckInYYZ Dec 25, 2022 12:48 am


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 34862390)
Back on topic, even if they write up a menu board of the day (with or without prices), most folks either won't see it nor be able to read it from any specific location a restaurant.

The board is usually where they put either the specials they want to push or the high markup stuff they want to push (at least that's my guess)...

But maybe it's a cultural difference... Most of the menus I know of that don't have a price are usually those chain restaurants that have the same menu nation (or province) wide... but when you get to the location, the prices are on the menu. It does make me wonder if it's sanctioned by their respective head offices and if not, what they would do...

TWA884 Dec 26, 2022 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 34862063)
Can you imagine a big, multi page menu like the Cheesecake Factory on your phone?

But a gourmand like you would not be caught dead in a Cheesecake Factory.

moondog Dec 26, 2022 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 34866222)
But a gourmand like you would not be caught dead in a Cheesecake Factory.

The calorie counts scare me into ordering cucumber dishes:D

corky Dec 26, 2022 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 34866222)
But a gourmand like you would not be caught dead in a Cheesecake Factory.

Lol
I am not a restaurant snob! I love me some Popeye's fried chicken sandwich and Sabrett's hot dogs from a cart and all kinds of un-gourmet places. I do actually like CF. Their avocado eggrolls are the best.

YVR Cockroach Dec 26, 2022 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 34866222)
But a gourmand like you would not be caught dead in a Cheesecake Factory.

Haven't eaten in a Cheesecake Factory for >25 years. Is it as good as this leads one to believe?

gaobest Dec 26, 2022 10:30 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 34866222)
But a gourmand like you would not be caught dead in a Cheesecake Factory.

I last went to the one in The Grove (LA) near the aapl store and the late Dominique Ansel. I have loved that bang bang chicken & shrimp for decades.


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