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Originally Posted by BamaVol
(Post 33335941)
Despite the state of Florida being pretty much wide open, I continue to be surprised at all the restaurant workers I see wearing masks. I have to assume they’ve been demanded by the restaurants and wonder if that isn’t part of the straw that breaks the camel’s back. There are better crappy jobs perhaps that don’t make you wear the mask all shift. I know I chafe every time I put one on now (church and doctors appointments) and can’t wait to yank the thing off.
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 33335956)
Yes, it is possible. I don't expect that this represents that grand a percentage of the missing worker pool. Pre-COVID, teens had already been shunning this sort of work, especially in fast food, and seniors have been replacing this (which is a sad commentary, probably well-suited for a /PR discussion). Meanwhile, for several years, I've been saying that the restaurant model as we know it (at least in the SF Bay Area) is not an economically viable model in the long term. The past 15 months have only served to concentrate the days of reckoning.
Your comment "at least in the SF Bay Area" is important. I have a feeling that's much different than around here, the Chicago suburbs. And the suburbs are much different than Chicago itself. My big prediction for today is that this time next year the server shortage won't be an issue any more. As the pandemic wanes, the federal stipend ends, and the best jobs get snatched up, people will go back to these jobs. |
Gotta say that the Big A Root Beer in grass valley CA was staffed by amusing teenagers on Thursday evening. Great staffing.
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
(Post 33335941)
Despite the state of Florida being pretty much wide open, I continue to be surprised at all the restaurant workers I see wearing masks. I have to assume they’ve been demanded by the restaurants and wonder if that isn’t part of the straw that breaks the camel’s back. There are better crappy jobs perhaps that don’t make you wear the mask all shift. I know I chafe every time I put one on now (church and doctors appointments) and can’t wait to yank the thing off.
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Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 33337659)
I would think it's more likely the servers deciding they don't want to catch COVID.
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
(Post 33337673)
They've had 6-7 weeks to get vaccinated. AFAIK, that’s more effective than a mask.
on 6/17, CA OSHA members voted to eschew masks. it is still possible for individual retail businesses to require masks - hopefully it’ll be posted clearly at the door with relevant date (eg “AFTER 6/15/21…” because it’ll be too easy for a consumer to think that it’s an old mask sign :-) |
Originally Posted by gaobest
(Post 33338127)
in CA, restaurant workers were still required to mask after 6/15, the day masks weren’t required for consumers.
on 6/17, CA OSHA members voted to eschew masks. it is still possible for individual retail businesses to require masks - hopefully it’ll be posted clearly at the door with relevant date (eg “AFTER 6/15/21…” because it’ll be too easy for a consumer to think that it’s an old mask sign :-) And to your point about the mask signs, it is a little confusing now. I ignored them for a year because I knew a mask was required. Now, every time I go to a store for the first time (since unmasking) I carry a mask in my pocket and have to read the sign to know if I must wear it or not. One store, can't remember, had no sign at all. I took a chance and walked in sans mask and saw others mask-less too. |
Originally Posted by BamaVol
(Post 33337673)
They've had 6-7 weeks to get vaccinated. AFAIK, that’s more effective than a mask.
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Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 33341723)
And both together are even more effective.
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Originally Posted by gaobest
(Post 33342073)
agreed although we can also argue for sheltering or other methods that are effective against the coronavirus. I fully support vaccinated people’s choices to eschew the mask since that’s my own personal preference.
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Originally Posted by gaobest
(Post 33342073)
agreed although we can also argue for sheltering or other methods that are effective against the coronavirus. I fully support vaccinated people’s choices to eschew the mask since that’s my own personal preference.
In my view, it should have always been left to the individual and that of private businesses. Personally, since masks aren't a big sacrifice for me, I'll put it on, at least for the next several months, if it'll make some people who work in stores/restaurants feel better or safer. |
Originally Posted by JBord
(Post 33343011)
But it won't surprise me if cloth masks end up at the very bottom of the list in terms of effectiveness. The N95's are of course a different matter.
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I ran into this for my first time yesterday. My fiancé and I went to the Olive Garden in Brier Creek in Raleigh. When we arrived at least 75% of the tables were empty. However, due to short staffing we were quoted an hour and a half wait. Thankfully we were able to sit at the bar but some people who were waiting when we arrived were still waiting when we left.
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Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 33341723)
And both together are even more effective.
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Originally Posted by CMK10
(Post 33344309)
I ran into this for my first time yesterday. My fiancé and I went to the Olive Garden in Brier Creek in Raleigh. When we arrived at least 75% of the tables were empty. However, due to short staffing we were quoted an hour and a half wait. Thankfully we were able to sit at the bar but some people who were waiting when we arrived were still waiting when we left.
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Originally Posted by FLYMSY
(Post 33343514)
IMHO:
2nd from the very bottom - bandanas Very bottom - gaiters Back on topic, I saw the post about server shortage at an Olive Garden. For all the discussion here, I haven't personally experienced it, only heard stories. We're only going to restaurants about once a week these days though. |
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