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FLYMSY Aug 23, 2020 8:20 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 32621839)
I'd dispute that Sees is mediocre, its not fine chocolate for sure but, it seems to be as good as it gets in America.

(Bolding is mine)

Not even close.

USA_flyer Aug 23, 2020 9:42 am


Originally Posted by FLYMSY (Post 32624173)
(Bolding is mine)

Not even close.

Ok. Give me the name of a mainstream chocolate producer in the US that produces quality chocolate please.

Eastbay1K Aug 23, 2020 10:04 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 32624299)
Ok. Give me the name of a mainstream chocolate producer in the US that produces quality chocolate please.

Are you speaking of a chocolate producer, or a confectioner producer? Big big difference.
Mass produced bean to bar chocolate - Guittard and Ghirardelli (currently owned by Lindt) make quite respectable quality chocolate.
Confections make with chocolate? That's another world.

FLYMSY Aug 23, 2020 11:53 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 32624299)
Ok. Give me the name of a mainstream chocolate producer in the US that produces quality chocolate please.

Sorry, I wish I could, but I gave up on mainstream chocolate years ago. When I travel, I seek out the small chocolate shops that make their own. I’ve even flown to Belgium for the sole purpose of going to my two favorite shops in Bruges for a dark chocolate fix.

USA_flyer Aug 23, 2020 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by FLYMSY (Post 32624517)
Sorry, I wish I could, but I gave up on mainstream chocolate years ago. When I travel, I seek out the small chocolate shops that make their own. I’ve even flown to Belgium for the sole purpose of going to my two favorite shops in Bruges for a dark chocolate fix.

Fair enough. And Bruges is a cute town, its been more than 20 years since I've been, I really ought to take wife and daughter sometime.

gaobest Aug 24, 2020 1:28 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 32624299)
Ok. Give me the name of a mainstream chocolate producer in the US that produces quality chocolate please.

Dandelion
vosges

ive even seen Vosges at Fortnum in 2010 for a tenner - it was only $5 in USA. At that time a tenner was like $15 but now it’s $12

dandelion is amazing and isn’t cheap - like $8 for a bar. It’s really good.


Originally Posted by FLYMSY (Post 32624517)
Sorry, I wish I could, but I gave up on mainstream chocolate years ago. When I travel, I seek out the small chocolate shops that make their own. I’ve even flown to Belgium for the sole purpose of going to my two favorite shops in Bruges for a dark chocolate fix.

i was fine with Pierre Marcolini (Bxls)

I don’t eat that much chocolate and prefer dark when possible. There are so many great confectionary treats.

reese’s peanut butter cups are good and cheap compared to Justin’s, but I otherwise don’t eat Hershey. Our household overall prefers dark.

enggeol Aug 25, 2020 6:04 am

Vegemite, that only an imitation of the real stiff Marmite (but not in nZ where Marmite is another product!). A really love it/hate it product.

DC9 Aug 25, 2020 6:27 am

Although, the UK Marmite is a repulsive concoction, compared to the milder Australian Vegemite. 🤭

vonmoishe Aug 25, 2020 7:39 am

So many great American chocolate options
 

Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 32624299)
Ok. Give me the name of a mainstream chocolate producer in the US that produces quality chocolate please.

You’d have to define mainstream. For argument’s sake, let’s assume it’s something you can find in more than one supermarket chain. Here are a few: Theo, Raaka, Guittard, Scharffen Berger.

There are also many American chocolate makers that are not quite mainstream, but still amazing: Castronovo, Charm School, Chequessett, Christopher Elbow, Donnelly, Fine & Raw, French Broad, Gotham, Harper Macaw, Manoa, Map, Michael Dunn, Philip Marks, Piety and Desire, S.K. Frey, Solstice, Somerville, Stone Grindz, Xocolatl. And those are just the ones I’ve tried that were fantastic. There’s an even longer list of American makers that are really good, but not, to me, amazing.

I’ve tasted my way through many European chocolates. There are many great ones, but also some pretty bad ones. Neither continent has a monopoly on good or bad chocolate.

USA_flyer Aug 25, 2020 9:24 am


Originally Posted by DC9 (Post 32628315)
Although, the UK Marmite is a repulsive concoction, compared to the milder Australian Vegemite. 🤭

Marmite is a delicacy.


Originally Posted by vonmoishe (Post 32628466)
You’d have to define mainstream. For argument’s sake, let’s assume it’s something you can find in more than one supermarket chain. Here are a few: Theo, Raaka, Guittard, Scharffen Berger.

There are also many American chocolate makers that are not quite mainstream, but still amazing: Castronovo, Charm School, Chequessett, Christopher Elbow, Donnelly, Fine & Raw, French Broad, Gotham, Harper Macaw, Manoa, Map, Michael Dunn, Philip Marks, Piety and Desire, S.K. Frey, Solstice, Somerville, Stone Grindz, Xocolatl. And those are just the ones I’ve tried that were fantastic. There’s an even longer list of American makers that are really good, but not, to me, amazing.

I’ve tasted my way through many European chocolates. There are many great ones, but also some pretty bad ones. Neither continent has a monopoly on good or bad chocolate.

I've not heard of any of those brands - I will look out for them next time I am in the USA. Although I'm sure you'll agree that Milka and Cadbury are far superior to Hershey.

Eastbay1K Aug 25, 2020 9:45 am


Originally Posted by USA_flyer (Post 32628707)
Marmite is a delicacy.



I've not heard of any of those brands - I will look out for them next time I am in the USA. Although I'm sure you'll agree that Milka and Cadbury are far superior to Hershey.

Hershey is gross. Many of the other brands aren't just available at any market, or you'll find them only regionally. Scharffenberger is now Hershey-owned but as far as I know, they've not yet ruined the quality. You may find that some mass-produced chocolate-ish products in the USA no longer have cocoa butter, which has been replaced with various oils. It has been this way for about a decade-plus.

corky Aug 25, 2020 10:01 am


Originally Posted by vonmoishe (Post 32628466)
You’d have to define mainstream. For argument’s sake, let’s assume it’s something you can find in more than one supermarket chain. Here are a few: Theo, Raaka, Guittard, Scharffen Berger.

There are also many American chocolate makers that are not quite mainstream, but still amazing: Castronovo, Charm School, Chequessett, Christopher Elbow, Donnelly, Fine & Raw, French Broad, Gotham, Harper Macaw, Manoa, Map, Michael Dunn, Philip Marks, Piety and Desire, S.K. Frey, Solstice, Somerville, Stone Grindz, Xocolatl. And those are just the ones I’ve tried that were fantastic. There’s an even longer list of American makers that are really good, but not, to me, amazing.

I’ve tasted my way through many European chocolates. There are many great ones, but also some pretty bad ones. Neither continent has a monopoly on good or bad chocolate.

I think they are temporarily closed but try Chuao Chocalatier if you run across it. I also like Gayle's chocolate but i think it is very local only. I have not heard of most of your list so i imagine they are local as well.
For mass produced,i know Callebaut makes some of Trader Joe chocolate and it's very good .

ulxima Aug 25, 2020 12:08 pm

NUTELLA all the way, period! :D

U!

JonoVK Aug 25, 2020 1:09 pm

FDA changed standards for chocolate several years ago at the behest of Hershey's and other commodity chocolate manufacturers. Previously FDA required some amount of cocoa butter in the chocolate. The current standards are :

"Milk Chocolate
Milk chocolate is the most popular type of chocolate in the United States. To be marketed as milk chocolate, a product must contain at least 10 percent chocolate liquor, at least 3.39 percent milkfat, and at least 12 percent milk solids."
www registrarcorp com fda-chocolate-standard-identity/

While i never particularly liked Hershey's chocolate prior to the change, after it turned into a total waste of money and calories.

picturegal Aug 25, 2020 1:56 pm

I don't usually comment, but since chocolate is my favorite food group, I must agree with those who don't like Hershey and prefer dark chocolate. I am partial to Lindt truffels, extra dark, myself. But when I was in Australia I found dark chocolate Kit Kats, and they were yummy. Never seen them here for some reason except one year at Halloween.

Orchids Aug 25, 2020 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by picturegal (Post 32629495)
I don't usually comment, but since chocolate is my favorite food group, I must agree with those who don't like Hershey and prefer dark chocolate. I am partial to Lindt truffels, extra dark, myself. But when I was in Australia I found dark chocolate Kit Kats, and they were yummy. Never seen them here for some reason except one year at Halloween.

Hershey holds the license in the US for Kit Kat. This survived a sale by Rowntree to Nestle, but if Hershey is sold, the license is lost. I've read Hershey has invested heavily to ramp up production while experimenting with flavor(s). For now Japanese Kit Kats rule!

kipper Aug 25, 2020 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by Orchids (Post 32629682)
Hershey holds the license in the US for Kit Kat. This survived a sale by Rowntree to Nestle, but if Hershey is sold, the license is lost. I've read Hershey has invested heavily to ramp up production while experimenting with flavor(s). For now Japanese Kit Kats rule!

I've seen mint/dark chocolate Kit Kats and birthday cake Kit Kats.

Orchids Aug 25, 2020 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 32629705)
I've seen mint/dark chocolate Kit Kats and birthday cake Kit Kats.

The mint/dark chocolate must have been a success since they're adding a mocha/chocolate to the Duo line.
I saw Apple Pie Kit Kat while I was sleep-surfing the net, but not for purchase.

You mentioned Wilbur Buds upthread and if you've stopped at Lititz, PA, on a drive through Pennsylvania Dutch Country, you'll recall the aroma of chocolate in the air, all over town. Missing the last time we were there, I guess due to factory closing. Hope it's returned, as i read there was something of a renaissance happening. I think the Buds pre-date Hershey Kisses, but not certain.

gaobest Aug 25, 2020 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by picturegal (Post 32629495)
...But when I was in Australia I found dark chocolate Kit Kats, and they were yummy. Never seen them here for some reason except one year at Halloween.

I bought dark chocolate Kit Kats (made for japan) at a Daly City korean supermarket and I’m sure other Asian groceries might have these.


Originally Posted by Orchids (Post 32629682)
Hershey holds the license in the US for Kit Kat. This survived a sale by Rowntree to Nestle, but if Hershey is sold, the license is lost. I've read Hershey has invested heavily to ramp up production while experimenting with flavor(s). For now Japanese Kit Kats rule!

I love the Japanese Kit Kats and am glad to be able to get them in different sf-Area shops.

kipper Aug 25, 2020 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by Orchids (Post 32629769)
The mint/dark chocolate must have been a success since they're adding a mocha/chocolate to the Duo line.
I saw Apple Pie Kit Kat while I was sleep-surfing the net, but not for purchase.

You mentioned Wilbur Buds upthread and if you've stopped at Lititz, PA, on a drive through Pennsylvania Dutch Country, you'll recall the aroma of chocolate in the air, all over town. Missing the last time we were there, I guess due to factory closing. Hope it's returned, as i read there was something of a renaissance happening. I think the Buds pre-date Hershey Kisses, but not certain.

I'd try the mocha/chocolate one. I have the birthday cake one in the fridge, but I haven't tried it yet.

I've driven through Lititz and there's a Dove factory in Elizabethtown.

Frizzy Aug 25, 2020 9:26 pm

I am surprised no one has mentioned Tim-Tams. They are chocolate biscuits generously coated with chocolate (milk or dark), from Australia. If you really want a presentable biscuit to offer with tea or coffee, Tim-Tams are unbeatable. I always bring them overseas with me and everyone adores them. I abominate Hersheys about as much as most people on this forum: it is NOT proper chocolate by any stretch. There are evidently plenty of decent chocolate brands all over the world, and Hersheys should just fade into the uncool, particularly because they got the rules rewritten to accommodate their godawful ersatz chocolate recipe.

LapLap Aug 26, 2020 1:37 am


Originally Posted by Frizzy (Post 32630289)
I am surprised no one has mentioned Tim-Tams.

That’s because this thread went wildly off topic about 7 posts ago.

There’s a whole thread on Kit Kats here -

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japa...-kit-kats.html

We’d need an entire separate thread to discuss cookies and biscuits with chocolate or chocolate flavoured toppings and coatings.

gaobest Aug 26, 2020 10:00 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 32630529)
That’s because this thread went wildly off topic about 7 posts ago.

There’s a whole thread on Kit Kats here -

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japa...-kit-kats.html

We’d need an entire separate thread to discuss cookies and biscuits with chocolate or chocolate flavoured toppings and coatings.

fun Kit Kats thread! I get frustrated that my phone auto corrects and adds an apostrophe. Grrrrr

we need to shun this thread and indeed start a better thread for chocolate confections that isn’t brand-specific.

that said, I guess Hershey’s is a nice introductory brand...

JMorgana Aug 26, 2020 11:27 am


Originally Posted by Orchids (Post 32629769)
The mint/dark chocolate must have been a success since they're adding a mocha/chocolate to the Duo line.
I saw Apple Pie Kit Kat while I was sleep-surfing the net, but not for purchase.

You mentioned Wilbur Buds upthread and if you've stopped at Lititz, PA, on a drive through Pennsylvania Dutch Country, you'll recall the aroma of chocolate in the air, all over town. Missing the last time we were there, I guess due to factory closing. Hope it's returned, as i read there was something of a renaissance happening. I think the Buds pre-date Hershey Kisses, but not certain.

Mint/dark chocolate Kit-Kat ROCKS! I would recommend that anyone who's a fan of either Thin Mints (Girl Scout Cookies) or Andes Mints try these.

Apple Pie...tried it, not a fan. Even with the white chocolate coating, there's something about the flavor/texture combo that doesn't work but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Birthday Cake...tried it and it wasn't bad, but not impressive either.

kipper Aug 26, 2020 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by JMorgana (Post 32631533)
Mint/dark chocolate Kit-Kat ROCKS! I would recommend that anyone who's a fan of either Thin Mints (Girl Scout Cookies) or Andes Mints try these.

Apple Pie...tried it, not a fan. Even with the white chocolate coating, there's something about the flavor/texture combo that doesn't work but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Birthday Cake...tried it and it wasn't bad, but not impressive either.

I wasn't a fan of the mint/dark chocolate one.

JMorgana Aug 26, 2020 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 32631635)
I wasn't a fan of the mint/dark chocolate one.

I could definitely see it not being popular with those that like milk but not dark chocolate. These, Thin Mints, and Andes wafers are the three exceptions to an almost phobic avoidance of mint anything for me.

kipper Aug 26, 2020 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by JMorgana (Post 32631656)
I could definitely see it not being popular with those that like milk but not dark chocolate. These, Thin Mints, and Andes wafers are the three exceptions to an almost phobic avoidance of mint anything for me.

I love Thin Mints and Andes, but didn't care for it.

I tried the birthday cake Kit Kat today, and it was fine, but nothing special. Not worth the calories.

corky Aug 26, 2020 7:32 pm

I liked the lemon kit kats I bought around Easter.

cblaisd Aug 26, 2020 9:44 pm

Moderator's note:

Topic check! :D

Let's keep the discussion focused on discussion of Hershey's chocolate, please :)

Posts about cookies/biscuits/KitKats/vegemite/et al can find a home in another thread dedicated to those.

Thanks!

cblaisd, Co-Moderator, Dining Buzz


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