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JBord May 11, 2020 8:29 am


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 32365830)

Buldak - Fire chicken - The only challenge is the marinade. The cooking and finishing is easy and it's a fantastic snack for a big game or party.

This looks amazing. Do you have your own recipe or one online somewhere that you reference? I Googled and so many different ones came up...if I make it, I'd like it to look like your picture!

BamaVol May 11, 2020 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32345078)
The recipe looks easy and the rolls look good, although I bet I can’t fold them as neatly. I’m going to try these this week.

Very happy with the outcome. I will whip up some honey butter to go with the next batch.


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MSYtoJFKagain May 11, 2020 12:23 pm

I use a slightly modified version of the Serious Eats recipe.

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/...th-cheese.html

I skip the fresh chiles because I can never find them, I have added a little adobo sauce from a chile in adobo can and it add the same flavor if you're in a pinch.

I also just use boneless skinless thighs like 90% of the time. As you can see above, I precut the thighs and marinade everything for 2 hours. That saves a goodly amount of time as the marinade is the majority of the prep. It's a perfect gameday or event snack for that reason, you can just grate the cheese and slice the scallions and finish it inside of 10 minutes. Always broil 1 minute too long though. The cheese is best heavily browned. The one pictured was rushed.

exerda May 11, 2020 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 32365830)
Kimchi scallion pancakes - Kimchijjeon

These looks daunting but they may be the simplest recipe ever.
cup:1 cup flour to water.
Add 8oz of chopped kimchi, tsp of salt, tbsp of sugar and as much scallions as you want.
Stir until gloopy.
Put one ladle of any size (start small) into a pan with 2 tbsps of hot oil or fat.
Fry until bubbles start popping on the top. Flip, raise pancake and get oil under.
Cook until the bottom looks like the top (4-5 minutes a side)
Remove and add scallions. Serve with any sauce you want.
You can add anything you want to this. I've put leftovers of meat, vegetables, sausages in.

One of the gents whose videos I've watched on sourdough baking suggests using the unused portion of the starter to essentially make these (he went with scallions only, but adding the kimchi seems like it would be a great idea--although you might use a bit less given the dough will be sour to begin with). Sourdough starter is going to be 1-1 flour-water as it is, plus brings the flavor from the week or so of its own fermentation (and most people just toss the excess when they're baking, it seems).

MSYtoJFKagain May 11, 2020 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32366682)
One of the gents whose videos I've watched on sourdough baking suggests using the unused portion of the starter to essentially make these (he went with scallions only, but adding the kimchi seems like it would be a great idea--although you might use a bit less given the dough will be sour to begin with). Sourdough starter is going to be 1-1 flour-water as it is, plus brings the flavor from the week or so of its own fermentation (and most people just toss the excess when they're baking, it seems).

I've seen that as well. That's more of a Chinese version as that usually do a twist and smash before frying while also making more of a formal dough. This recipe is just a bunch of glop that you fry in batches. Both absolutely delicious though!

gaobest May 11, 2020 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32366652)
Very happy with the outcome. I will whip up some honey butter to go with the next batch.


they’re gorgeous! How do you do honey butter? Just a combo of honey and butter? I’ve also read an idea of brushing honey on the outside of the buns.

I have stopped buying slider buns.
I have to make more tomorrow. I’ll definitely do a batch with chocolate mini chips. They were a big hit! Thanks again to LapLap.

Stgermainparis May 11, 2020 11:54 pm

Made some basic guacamole today but added sundried tomatoes (chopped up). OMG next world goodness. I think I might need to make it again for some guacamole enchiladas cooked from local Tex-Mex restaurant. With a mole sauce. Need to use up the big Costco bag of avocados.

Jaimito Cartero May 12, 2020 2:47 am


Originally Posted by Stgermainparis (Post 32367971)
Made some basic guacamole today but added sundried tomatoes (chopped up). OMG next world goodness. I think I might need to make it again for some guacamole enchiladas cooked from local Tex-Mex restaurant. With a mole sauce. Need to use up the big Costco bag of avocados.

I’ve only seen normal Costco stores carrying the 6 pack of avocados. The business center sometimes has them by the case.

BamaVol May 12, 2020 5:51 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32367964)
they’re gorgeous! How do you do honey butter? Just a combo of honey and butter? I’ve also read an idea of brushing honey on the outside of the buns.

I have stopped buying slider buns.
I have to make more tomorrow. I’ll definitely do a batch with chocolate mini chips. They were a big hit! Thanks again to LapLap.

Just the two ingredients. The Martha Stewart ratio is 2 tbsp honey to a stick of butter. I warm the butter to room temp on the counter but refrigerate leftovers after making.

Alton Brown adds vanilla and cinnamon to his. You can experiment.

gaobest May 12, 2020 9:15 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32368384)
Just the two ingredients. The Martha Stewart ratio is 2 tbsp honey to a stick of butter. I warm the butter to room temp on the counter but refrigerate leftovers after making.

Alton Brown adds vanilla and cinnamon to his. You can experiment.

thanks - I love Martha. We have her mini baking pan silpat and some of her dish towels.

Badenoch May 12, 2020 4:08 pm

One bit of learning since cooking more is that the authors of cookbooks are bald-faced liars about preparation time. I'm fairly efficient in the kitchen but double the "prep time" for any recipe. It's not like I'm in a hurry most days anyway.

MSYtoJFKagain May 12, 2020 8:25 pm

They fail to take into account that they make the recipe 20 times and are usually at least professional cooks, if not chefs. "30 minute meals from scratch" are a scam unless it's a very basic stirfry.

Stgermainparis May 12, 2020 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 32368160)
I’ve only seen normal Costco stores carrying the 6 pack of avocados. The business center sometimes has them by the case.

Yes, there were 6 in the bag but they are HUGE. I normally use 3-4 to make guacamole but used only two. For me, this 6-pack seemed “big”. I wish I could eat an entire case!

BamaVol May 12, 2020 9:04 pm

Tomorrow’s project is a Greek olive bread. The recipe makes 2 loaves but I will try to make one large and 2 small since I want to share with my father in law and my next door neighbor. I will need to be very careful about cooking times. They are free form loaves so I won’t have to worry about loaf pans.

i am a little worried about the recipe’s test for doneness. You tap the loaf on the bottom and listen for a hollow sound?

Finkface May 12, 2020 9:33 pm

I’m working on banana bread.
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exerda May 12, 2020 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32370451)
Tomorrow’s project is a Greek olive bread. The recipe makes 2 loaves but I will try to make one large and 2 small since I want to share with my father in law and my next door neighbor. I will need to be very careful about cooking times. They are free form loaves so I won’t have to worry about loaf pans.

i am a little worried about the recipe’s test for doneness. You tap the loaf on the bottom and listen for a hollow sound?

The hollow sound test is fairly standard, but I admit it's hard to tell for sure simply based on knocking on the loaf.

I'd use a standard time (say, 35-40 minutes for a free-form loaf) and then would use the color of the crust as the primary indicator of doneness (looking for a fair bit of browning and caramelization). You could take internal temperature with a meat probe, but that seems excessive. Finally, you could cut off the oven around 40 minutes and then crack the oven door to let the loaves coast a bit and firm up the insides.

gaobest May 12, 2020 10:27 pm

I have a request for cauliflower. I bought 2 heads and will follow the recipe and try it out on Wednesday.

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/...ed-cauliflower

550 degrees!! I didn’t even know our oven went that high (yes it does!)

Stgermainparis May 12, 2020 10:34 pm

Well, we had an interesting day. Made rosemary bread with one son and nachos 🙄 with the other. I will say, both were huge hits. The teens esp enjoyed building their personal mountain of nachos and pork and beans and cheese and guacamole. Not exactly “cooking” but a successful dinner for the kids.

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gaobest May 12, 2020 10:39 pm

Gorgeous nachos. Which cheese(s) do you use?

Stgermainparis May 12, 2020 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32370618)
Gorgeous nachos. Which cheese(s) do you use?

I’m almost embarrassed to tell you. Pancho’s cheese sauce. From Costco. My 20 year old basically has an IV feed of that stuff.

The dollop to left of guac is sour cream with some chipotle peppers in adobo sauce. Gives a nice kick and smoke flavor.

teddybear99 May 12, 2020 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 32365830)
I just typed out an entire list of ingredients and uses and my browser crashed.

My suggestion if you have a large post, type it out in Microsoft Word first, then copy and paste it into a post. This will avoid having to retype it if your browser crashes in the future as well as allow you to edit it before posting. Just trying to help.

MSYtoJFKagain May 13, 2020 6:59 am


Originally Posted by teddybear99 (Post 32370661)
My suggestion if you have a large post, type it out in Microsoft Word first, then copy and paste it into a post. This will avoid having to retype it if your browser crashes in the future as well as allow you to edit it before posting. Just trying to help.

It's appreciated. I've been working from a laptop the last week while we get settled into a new place and I hadn't disabled the mousepad yet. I'll use that method in the future though and save myself some ripped hairs.

BamaVol May 13, 2020 7:08 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32370558)
The hollow sound test is fairly standard, but I admit it's hard to tell for sure simply based on knocking on the loaf.

I'd use a standard time (say, 35-40 minutes for a free-form loaf) and then would use the color of the crust as the primary indicator of doneness (looking for a fair bit of browning and caramelization). You could take internal temperature with a meat probe, but that seems excessive. Finally, you could cut off the oven around 40 minutes and then crack the oven door to let the loaves coast a bit and firm up the insides.

The recipe guideline is 40 minutes so your advice is sound. I like the idea of cutting the heat and cracking the oven door. Do you have a suggestion for time on half loaves? I was thinking of 5 minutes less. I’ll thump them but I’m not all that confident about what hollow will sound like.

JBord May 13, 2020 9:07 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32370597)
I have a request for cauliflower. I bought 2 heads and will follow the recipe and try it out on Wednesday.

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/...ed-cauliflower

550 degrees!! I didn’t even know our oven went that high (yes it does!)

I love cauliflower, but my favorite of all time is the dish served at Girl & The Goat here in Chicago. The recipe is all over the internet, maybe even still on the restaurant's site. Just Google "Girl and the goat cauliflower recipe" and I'm sure it will come up. There are a lot of ingredients and it takes a fair amount of prep time, but it's delicious. Worth a try if you get another request :).

exerda May 13, 2020 9:54 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32371389)
The recipe guideline is 40 minutes so your advice is sound. I like the idea of cutting the heat and cracking the oven door. Do you have a suggestion for time on half loaves? I was thinking of 5 minutes less. I’ll thump them but I’m not all that confident about what hollow will sound like.

5 minutes less is typically what I've used for smaller loaves, and so far, it has worked (10-15 minutes for the initial spring, 20 minutes for the bake). I had one which was a bit underdone in the middle back when I first started ramping up baking, but leaving the loaf parked in a warm oven for another 10 minutes or so solved that without burning the crust. What I typically do is toss the "finished" loaf into the upper oven compartment while I ramp the heat back up to 500 on my lower (convection) oven; I don't even have to run the upper oven, as it's fairly warm just from running the one under it.

And I agree that the sound is tough to go by and that I worry I'm into overdone territory by the time I get what I consider a hollow sound.

gaobest May 13, 2020 10:06 am


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32371697)
I love cauliflower, but my favorite of all time is the dish served at Girl & The Goat here in Chicago. The recipe is all over the internet, maybe even still on the restaurant's site. Just Google "Girl and the goat cauliflower recipe" and I'm sure it will come up. There are a lot of ingredients and it takes a fair amount of prep time, but it's delicious. Worth a try if you get another request :).

thanks - we used to go there and L’Auberge (when I used to eat foie gras) so I’ll check it out. I’ll do the cauliflower tonight but the easier recipe :-)

Jaimito Cartero May 13, 2020 10:20 am

I’ve been watching a lot of food porn on Netflix. I showed my wife some interesting ones from Nadiya’s Time to Eat. She made a beef Wellington meatloaf type dish last week. This week, I’ve been craving a nice chicken pot pie. She made some today! A little underseasoned, but that was easily fixed with some salt and coarse black pepper.

I’m pretty lucky!

gaobest May 13, 2020 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 32371928)
I’ve been watching a lot of food porn on Netflix. I showed my wife some interesting ones from Nadiya’s Time to Eat. She made a beef Wellington meatloaf type dish last week. This week, I’ve been craving a nice chicken pot pie. She made some today! A little underseasoned, but that was easily fixed with some salt and coarse black pepper.

I’m pretty lucky!

you’re like my spouse. Today I bought steak garnish (mint, cilantro, shallot, lime, lemongrass) and poached salmon gear (salmon, white wine). I had already bought the cauliflower. It’ll be hopefully yummy but I wouldn’t normally think of these items :-)

corky May 13, 2020 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32372372)
you’re like my spouse. Today I bought steak garnish (mint, cilantro, shallot, lime, lemongrass) and poached salmon gear (salmon, white wine). I had already bought the cauliflower. It’ll be hopefully yummy but I wouldn’t normally think of these items :-)

Interesting steak garnish....going for a little Thai flavor?
Report back (with pics) on the cauliflower please for when I go to the store again in a week and get some. Right now I am working my way through the pillowcase sized package of haricots vert that I got at Costco yesterday.

gaobest May 13, 2020 2:59 pm

The steak garnish today was lime, cilantro, Red onion, and mint. A cute salad with steak slices on top. I just had steak slices with tortilla chips and salsa for the chips. I felt the steak was great enough to not need green garnish.

bensyd May 13, 2020 6:22 pm

I had my first ever crack at making pizza last night which turned out better than I thought. Set the kettle up with a full basket of charcoal and a terracotta tile up on a trivet type thing so that where the pizza cooked was further up in the dome where I reckon the temperature was 340c-360c/645f-680f. I left the lid offset so the fire was getting heaps of oxygen. It was 300c at the grill grate.


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Stgermainparis May 13, 2020 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32373262)
I had my first ever crack at making pizza last night which turned out better than I thought.


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Damn. That looks so good.

gaobest May 13, 2020 8:22 pm

Big yay on the pizza!!

my own supper of roast cauliflower and poached salmon was really good. I’m super thrilled. Made cheeseburger sliders on the roll-ppang all thanks to LapLap.

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corky May 13, 2020 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32373467)
Big yay on the pizza!!

my own supper of roast cauliflower and poached salmon was really good. I’m super thrilled. Made cheeseburger sliders on the roll-ppang all thanks to LapLap.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ae90774c4.jpeg
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what did you end up poaching the salmon in? Sauce on salmon ?
nice job

MSYtoJFKagain May 14, 2020 6:20 am

I've got 50 oysters and a few lbs of littlenecks showing up tomorrow afternoon from a local oyster farm. Going to eat 2 dozen of them raw and then make a big oyster bake with the rest. Littlenecks will be served traditional New England style, steamed with drawn butter.

That cauliflower and pizza look great. That burger looks like a beautiful situation as well.

JBord May 14, 2020 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 32374247)

That cauliflower and pizza look great. That burger looks like a beautiful situation as well.

I agree. You guys are making me jealous. We bought a new house recently, and have been traveling back and forth between the two homes, moving, unpacking, and getting the old one ready to sell once people are allowed to go outside again :). But it hasn't left a lot of time for elaborate meals lately. I think we have about a week of this left and then I can try the buldak, those sliders, and maybe a nice pizza on the grill! Unfortunately the large cuts of smoked meat are probably still a couple months away for me...

MSYtoJFKagain May 14, 2020 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32375567)
I agree. You guys are making me jealous. We bought a new house recently, and have been traveling back and forth between the two homes, moving, unpacking, and getting the old one ready to sell once people are allowed to go outside again :). But it hasn't left a lot of time for elaborate meals lately. I think we have about a week of this left and then I can try the buldak, those sliders, and maybe a nice pizza on the grill! Unfortunately the large cuts of smoked meat are probably still a couple months away for me...

I'm in the same boat, we've taken out at a ton of places since we moved or made simple stuff. It's usually a vacation spot for us as my SO's family lives here so we have our favorites and have patronized the ones that are open.

That said, I have a bunch of odds and ends getting here tomorrow from Amazon along with 50 fresh Wellfleet oysters from up the road. I also just had a 22" Weber set aside at the local appliance store to pick up on Saturday. All this, coupled with our new fridge, is going to lead to a hell of a weekend of eating. Raw oysters and steamers on Friday night, planning for lobster sushi (Live lobster is 6.95 a pound right now) and a big vegetable ratatouille on Saturday. Sunday will be trying the grill out for some fire-grilled fire chicken and some bulgogi over the charcoals. I've been talking with a guy on Instagram (@Yakatoriguy) and he's explained the method for doing yakitori over a full-size charcoal grill (It's similar to a 2 zone grill be with a small 3rd section) so I may try a few of those as well.

I've also been fishing every day.

Why the hell do I live in a city again?

bensyd May 14, 2020 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 32375874)
I've been talking with a guy on Instagram (@Yakatoriguy) and he's explained the method for doing yakitori over a full-size charcoal grill (It's similar to a 2 zone grill be with a small 3rd section) so I may try a few of those as well.

Tell me more! ;)

With pics too.

MSYtoJFKagain May 15, 2020 8:47 am


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32376012)
Tell me more! ;)

With pics too.

Well I don't have pictures just yet, I'm going to pick up the new grill tomorrow. The whole idea is to get the charcoal up a bit higher, either by just stacking it higher towards the grill or using a pizza stone/heat-resistant item to prop the charcoal higher. After that it's just a turn and watch and fan situation like with any binchotan charcoal grill. I think it would actually work with the chimney method that people use for searing steaks. I'll report back!

gaobest May 15, 2020 10:33 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32373625)
what did you end up poaching the salmon in? Sauce on salmon ?
nice job

for salmon poaching, I used shallot, dill, and half a cup each of a $6.99 white wine (cheapest I could find at the grocery with the salmon at butcher counter and all those GF baking flours including GF flour!).
my spouse used a Greek yogurt / dill sauce but I enjoyed my salmon as it was without sauce!
i had intentionally bought a “small” filet, about 11 Oz, because I knew that I was having susiecakes for dessert. Plus if my poaching failed, I wanted a limit on how much would be wasted.


Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain (Post 32374247)
That cauliflower and pizza look great. That burger looks like a beautiful situation as well.

thank you! The cauliflower ingredients are sea salt and olive oil and the pot of boiling water. Plus 550 oven.

the burger is all thanks to LapLap! Thanks to these roll-ppang, I’ll never again need to buy slider buns. That’s $0.50/roll. At some point I’ll try making burger buns or other buns with that same dough.

I really want to make Parker rolls - I have to read a recipe and either use the Maangchi instructions & ingredients or I’ll use the actual Parker roll recipe that I find.

ft has really helped me with cooking and of course saving money by getting that big united refund. It’s been very helpful this year


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