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Badenoch Apr 26, 2020 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32322903)
I like liquid smoke but it is nasty unless used very sparingly. Actually my favorite way to get smokiness is smoked paprika...probably one of my most used spices.

I used to cook with smoked paprika until I found smoked garlic.

Jaimito Cartero Apr 26, 2020 4:12 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32325258)
Does anyone have a deep fryer for making french fries? I can’t believe that there are several online for $50-150 range. Any suggestions?
i can grill cheeseburgers nicely and French fries would be so great with them :-)

An air fryer works pretty nicely. We use it for tater tots, onion rings, spring rolls, dim sum, spicy chicken wings, chicken nuggets, and so many other things.

bensyd Apr 26, 2020 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32326177)
Once upon a time I had a Fry Baby. But it seemed to collect dust. I don’t miss it. On the rare occasions I want to deep fry, I just use a pan.

I remember living in a share house in London and one of the housemates had a chip fryer. The house would stink of of oil for days after. It seems like such a PITA to make home made fries.

I sometimes do roast potatoes on the kettle which come out as good as fries or wedges. I run that thing so hot like 260c and it does something that is less like a roast potato and more like a chip.

corky Apr 26, 2020 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 32326856)
I used to cook with smoked paprika until I found smoked garlic.

I have not tried that...are you making your own or buying the granulated?

gaobest Apr 27, 2020 12:52 am


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 32326860)
An air fryer works pretty nicely. We use it for tater tots, onion rings, spring rolls, dim sum, spicy chicken wings, chicken nuggets, and so many other things.

do you use your air fryer for French fries and how crispy do they get?

gaobest Apr 27, 2020 12:53 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32326216)
This
You do not need a deep fryer....use a dutch oven and a fry thermometer. gaobest, I don't know how often you want to make fries but it is a lot of work and is messy and then you are dealing with all of that leftover oil. The best fries are fried twice...first at a lower temp and then a second fry to crisp up. Plus. you should use a mandolin to cut the potatoes. Unless there is a big demand for authentic fries in your house I would stick to frozen french fries done in the oven. Or you can just make thicker and not as crispy oven fries with fresh potatoes.

what do people do with the used leftover oil? Can it be composted?

gaobest Apr 27, 2020 1:10 am

My spouse wants sushi from our local place and I’m not going to be able to cook sushi as assumed. So my “no restaurants” goal is amended in that I won’t be suggesting or initiating restaurants but will still order & eat the carry out.

Thus one sushi supper will cost about 3 days worth of groceries (amortizing the infrastructure groceries like oil / baking / butter / etc) ... hopefully it won’t be a weekly thing.

Badenoch Apr 27, 2020 5:27 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32327274)
I have not tried that...are you making your own or buying the granulated?

Buying it from a small company in Southwestern Ontario.

http://www.thegarlicbox.com/products...G-%252d-Retail

kipper Apr 27, 2020 5:29 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32326177)
Once upon a time I had a Fry Baby. But it seemed to collect dust. I don’t miss it. On the rare occasions I want to deep fry, I just use a pan.

This.

Originally Posted by corky (Post 32326216)
This
You do not need a deep fryer....use a dutch oven and a fry thermometer. gaobest, I don't know how often you want to make fries but it is a lot of work and is messy and then you are dealing with all of that leftover oil. The best fries are fried twice...first at a lower temp and then a second fry to crisp up. Plus. you should use a mandolin to cut the potatoes. Unless there is a big demand for authentic fries in your house I would stick to frozen french fries done in the oven. Or you can just make thicker and not as crispy oven fries with fresh potatoes.

I just use a pan.

A deep fryer is a pain, because you have to deal with the used oil and the space the machine takes up.

If you must have something, look at an air fryer or if you have an Instant Pot, you can buy an air fryer lid.

JBord Apr 27, 2020 6:13 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32327574)
what do people do with the used leftover oil? Can it be composted?

Run it through a strainer, store it, and re-use it for frying. You will need to throw it out eventually, or I should say that I do that at least. I don't bother when using smaller amounts of oil, but when I'm filling the dutch oven for french fries, or fish & chips, those are pretty expensive fries if I don't re-use the oil. Even your favorite fast food restaurants probably only change their fryer oil once a week...and imagine how often it's used.

BamaVol Apr 27, 2020 7:07 am


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32328025)
Run it through a strainer, store it, and re-use it for frying. You will need to throw it out eventually, or I should say that I do that at least. I don't bother when using smaller amounts of oil, but when I'm filling the dutch oven for french fries, or fish & chips, those are pretty expensive fries if I don't re-use the oil. Even your favorite fast food restaurants probably only change their fryer oil once a week...and imagine how often it's used.

Yeah, I did the same. I had a metal container with a plastic lid. Most of my frying was chicken nuggets. I’m not sure I would be reusing fish oil for potatoes or chicken, regardless of filtering. IMO, the oil retains some flavor from what’s been fried in it.

JBord Apr 27, 2020 8:49 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 32328170)
Yeah, I did the same. I had a metal container with a plastic lid. Most of my frying was chicken nuggets. I’m not sure I would be reusing fish oil for potatoes or chicken, regardless of filtering. IMO, the oil retains some flavor from what’s been fried in it.

I've had different outcomes in terms of smell. Often I can't detect any, but maybe that's when it's potatoes or other neutral foods. I have a hypothesis that if my oil is the right temperature the food will not be oily and the oil will not be food-y. That's based on no science at all, just my uneducated brain that's been helping me cook meals since I was 8 years old. It may be that I believe it because I want to :).

corky Apr 27, 2020 11:32 am


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32328025)
Run it through a strainer, store it, and re-use it for frying. You will need to throw it out eventually, or I should say that I do that at least. I don't bother when using smaller amounts of oil, but when I'm filling the dutch oven for french fries, or fish & chips, those are pretty expensive fries if I don't re-use the oil. Even your favorite fast food restaurants probably only change their fryer oil once a week...and imagine how often it's used.

I don't think you should use the oil more than 3 times total. I think that it degrades each time and the smoke point gets lower. I don't know the details but I would look into that.
Regardless, you are still stuck with storing a large amount of oil and unless you are planning on using it in a timely fashion it could get rancid.

corky Apr 27, 2020 11:35 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32327594)
My spouse wants sushi from our local place and I’m not going to be able to cook sushi as assumed. So my “no restaurants” goal is amended in that I won’t be suggesting or initiating restaurants but will still order & eat the carry out.

Thus one sushi supper will cost about 3 days worth of groceries (amortizing the infrastructure groceries like oil / baking / butter / etc) ... hopefully it won’t be a weekly thing.

Still less $$ than your fancy freezer and now potential deep fryer. :p
Sushi is something that you are not likely to make on your own so take out is the smart way to do it.

Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 32327945)
Buying it from a small company in Southwestern Ontario.

SMOKED GARLIC SEASONING - Retail - The Garlic Box Inc. - RETAIL STORE

Looks good...thanks!

JBord Apr 27, 2020 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32328897)
I don't think you should use the oil more than 3 times total. I think that it degrades each time and the smoke point gets lower. I don't know the details but I would look into that.
Regardless, you are still stuck with storing a large amount of oil and unless you are planning on using it in a timely fashion it could get rancid.

You made me curious so I did a little research. The USDA recommends:

"If you are planning to reuse the oil, strain it through a cheese cloth or sieve. Store the used oil in a sealed and light-proof container for up to 3 months. For best quality, refrigerate used frying oil that you want to use again."

Which is only partially helpful...my guess is that 3 months doesn't assume multiple uses during that time, and that reusing probably does cause it to turn rancid more rapidly. For the average home fry-chef, your 3 use guideline seems smart. Since I don't deep fry that often, I'd guess that's roughly about the average number of uses for me.


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