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I've never even heard of using ricotta in a meat lasagne - I'd only really expect it with spinach in a veggie one (although IMO that works better with cannelloni than lasagne). Firmly in the bechamel camp here. It's really not time-consuming - well, depending on how long you want to infuse the bay etc - just roux, milk, heat & stir.
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Originally Posted by Cloudship
(Post 27648914)
For today's discussion:
Meat Lasagne. What order should the layers be? Was at the barber shop yesterday and my barber and two other Italians were comparing how their various families make lasagne, from what I gathered, there isn't any set way for the layers to be FWIW, each family did things a bit different. |
1. Noodles
2. Ricotta mixture of eggs, ricotta, Parmesan cheese, and parsley 3. Mozzarella cheese 4. Sauce 5. Repeat the layers |
I heartily recommend making lasagna with fresh made pasta. No need to precook, just use them as they come out of the pasta rolled. Utterly sublime in a way you'll never achieve with boxed pasta.
I'm probably a heretic, but I do use ricotta that I mix with some ground pepper and parsley. |
Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 27654191)
I heartily recommend making lasagna with fresh made pasta. No need to precook, just use them as they come out of the pasta rolled. Utterly sublime in a way you'll never achieve with boxed pasta.
I'm probably a heretic, but I do use ricotta that I mix with some ground pepper and parsley. |
Originally Posted by stut
(Post 27652887)
I've never even heard of using ricotta in a meat lasagne - I'd only really expect it with spinach in a veggie one (although IMO that works better with cannelloni than lasagne). Firmly in the bechamel camp here. It's really not time-consuming - well, depending on how long you want to infuse the bay etc - just roux, milk, heat & stir.
It's funny how with Italian cooking, everyone is a little different but everyone likes to insist there's only one right way. Personally, I can't stand lasagne and haven't touched one in 20 years or more. |
Originally Posted by obscure2k
(Post 27654631)
I agree that homemade pasta is best. In Santa Monica, Ca. there is an Italian grocery which sells homemade lasagna pasta. It's great. I'm sure there are other cities which also offer this. I am of the no mozzarella school, but ricotta is better and béchamel the best.:)
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Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 27654191)
Utterly sublime in a way you'll never achieve with boxed pasta.
I like this thread already. So many different recipes, methods, etc. . This is important stuff. Garfield would be proud of us. :D |
Originally Posted by WorldLux
(Post 27655844)
There is boxed pasta, that doesn't need precooking. While they taste acceptable, the fresh pasta sold in most grocery stores is better and the fresh pasta sold by a small Italian shop (usually an Italian woman having made pasta for decades) is king.
I like this thread already. So many different recipes, methods, etc. . This is important stuff. Garfield would be proud of us. :D #4 - no precooking boxed pasta - slightly better #3 - grocery store fresh pasta #2 - Italian shop fresh - better but still not 100% fresh by the time it hits the kitchen #1 - fresh from my own kitchen - a couple minutes to make the dough - eggs and flour, 30 minutes resting, a quick roll out at the very point you're ready to assemble. That's fresh! |
Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 27657926)
#5 ...
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Originally Posted by cslewis
(Post 27653762)
1. Noodles
the reasons most of us put a ladle of sauce in the bottom is to prevent sticking.
Originally Posted by stut
(Post 27652887)
I've never even heard of using ricotta in a meat lasagne - I'd only really expect it with spinach in a veggie one (although IMO that works
better with cannelloni than lasagne). Firmly in the bechamel camp here. It's really not time-consuming - well, depending on how long you want to infuse the bay etc - just roux, milk, heat & stir. of American home-kitchen lasagna casseroles. It's kind of okay. I agree with you about bechamel, which improves many things and takes mere minutes to make. |
Originally Posted by milepig
(Post 27657926)
#1 - fresh from my own kitchen - a couple minutes to make the dough - eggs and flour, 30 minutes resting, a quick roll out at the very point you're ready to assemble. That's fresh!
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Originally Posted by cslewis
(Post 27653762)
1. Noodles
2. Ricotta mixture of eggs, ricotta, Parmesan cheese, and parsley 3. Mozzarella cheese 4. Sauce 5. Repeat the layers |
I'm in the bechamel camp myself. Genuinely interesting thread, I've never heard of ricotta (or even cottage cheese!) in a standard meat lasagne.
Quick question from a confused Brit, why is the pasta referred to as noodles? (I'm assuming everyone is talking about the iPhone Plus / A5 sized pasta sheets) |
Originally Posted by krispy84
(Post 27748564)
I'm in the bechamel camp myself. Genuinely interesting thread, I've never heard of ricotta (or even cottage cheese!) in a standard meat lasagne.
Quick question from a confused Brit, why is the pasta referred to as noodles? (I'm assuming everyone is talking about the iPhone Plus / A5 sized pasta sheets) The term Lasagne is used for both the noodle and the dish. I did not realize there was such a difference in what is called Lasagne here and across the pond until I started digging into this. I think you can find the large flat sheets of pasta at specialty shops, but lasagne in America anyways is seen as more of a homestyle comfort food, and specialty food kind of don't fit it's image. Keep in mind ricotta itself is different over here. For us it comes in containers like oversized yogurt tubs. Yes you can find real ricotta too now, but most people automatically thin the stuff in tubs. That may be why it is viewed more as a special dish in Europe and a home style dish in the US. |
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